normiss 800 #426 February 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Coreece said: Dude seriously, what in the actual fuck are you talking about? You smoking again? I mean wtf do you want me to discuss, your straight A's in 6th grade? Good for you! As you say - Jebus fucking christ. . .get over yourself. It's jebus Howard christ actually. Howard be thy name. I haven't smoked since the early 90's, but thanks for your concern. /s My apologies for, again, attempting to converse with you. I should know better by now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #427 February 25, 2020 4 hours ago, turtlespeed said: EXCEPT . . . Computers are logical and linear. Not necessarily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #428 February 25, 2020 5 hours ago, turtlespeed said: There is some serious anger in there . . . It's just frustrating because I don't know wtf he's talking about half of the time, and then he throws in his typical digs about hatred or racism or whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #429 February 25, 2020 12 hours ago, wmw999 said: I think the issue is if you wait until you have the perfect solution before doing anything, then nothing ever gets done. True. Paralysis of analysis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #430 February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Coreece said: It's just frustrating because I don't know wtf he's talking about half of the time, and then he throws in his typical digs about hatred or racism or whatever. When someone dismisses his own comments accusing poor blacks and democrats...yeah, it's totally on the person responding to those comments. I tried to show you it's not quite painted with the brush you used with you paints. I came from a poor environment, not democrat, not black. Still had shit opportunities for education. Doing nothing results in just that. But you're never wrong, just confused by conflicting opinions. Then you explode with anger. Lather, rinse, repeat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #431 February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, kallend said: Not necessarily. They simply do what they're told to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #432 February 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, normiss said: They simply do what they're told to do. GiGo 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #433 February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, normiss said: When someone dismisses his own comments accusing poor blacks and democrats...yeah, it's totally on the person responding to those comments. I tried to show you it's not quite painted with the brush you used with you paints. I came from a poor environment, not democrat, not black. Still had shit opportunities for education. Doing nothing results in just that. But you're never wrong, just confused by conflicting opinions. See, I don't know what you're really talking about, and I'm not going to waste the time trying to figure it out. 1 hour ago, normiss said: Then you explode with anger. No, just expressing my frustration with your nonsense - big difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,191 #434 February 27, 2020 (edited) This one is unusual enough to make CNN this morning. It sounds like the 10 YO will live. Shot by his 19 YO babysitter who found a gun in the home and decided she needed selfies with it. Apparently she assumed it was not loaded. Because who leaves a loaded gun laying around a 10 YO's house?. https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/26/us/boy-shot-babysitter-selfie-trnd/index.html Edited February 27, 2020 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #435 February 27, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 11:50 PM, normiss said: Or the continued dismissal of all efforts, like you seem to prefer, will serve the same result. Doing nothing does exactly that. Keep up the hatred, it does at least provide results. Not any sort of positive ones though. Thanks for successfully drawing me into wasting time and efforts again. Someday I'll learn as I always do. Understanding debate and negotiation(of/for_______): 1. Never recognize a legitimate fact by the other party.. 2. Make obtuse statements that only slightly touch on the facts at hand. They help mislead, distract and sidetrack real issues. 3. Make generalizations, false assumptions and misjudgements based on personal biases. But never come out and clearly state your real personal position or view of the issues.Because you don't really want to defend a core belief with substance that proves to be wrong. 4. Choose labels for everything with positions that reflect your personal biases.Ideally derogatory and deflective of real substance. These points will help you understand trump, Fox News the NRA, etc. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #436 February 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Phil1111 said: Understanding debate and negotiation(of/for_______): 1. Never recognize a legitimate fact by the other party.. 2. Make obtuse statements that only slightly touch on the facts at hand. They help mislead, distract and sidetrack real issues. 3. Make generalizations, false assumptions and misjudgements based on personal biases. But never come out and clearly state your real personal position or view of the issues.Because you don't really want to defend a core belief with substance that proves to be wrong. 4. Choose labels for everything with positions that reflect your personal biases.Ideally derogatory and deflective of real substance. These points will help you understand ANY POLITICIAN, Fox News the NRA, etc. Fixed that for ya. Here is, yet, another example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,191 #437 April 4, 2020 I haven't been adding to this thread. But it's not because the children have stopped dying. Here's one just as a reminder. https://wgntv.com/news/4-year-old-dies-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-thornton/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #438 April 20, 2020 (edited) https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/police-at-least-10-killed-in-shooting-rampage-in-canada/ar-BB12Sq7P My heart goes out to the victims. if only they were allowed to carry, there probably wouldn’t have been so many. Update https://www.nbcnews.com Edited April 20, 2020 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,191 #439 April 20, 2020 We have a thread for mass shootings. At this time I have no words to describe my sadness at your decision to post this in this thread. I have no words to describe how I feel about your callousness that I can use here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #440 April 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, gowlerk said: I have no words to describe how I feel about your callousness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #441 April 27, 2020 2 year old shoots/kills dad. https://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-georgia-toddler-accidentally-shoots-kills-father/74MPONQA4BAthtsMZT3x1J/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #442 April 27, 2020 Same day as above, 18 year old college student has trouble removing magazine, shoots/kills himself. https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/georgia-college-student-accidentally-shoots-kills-himself-while-removing-clip-from-gun/3M37ArKZNB4Udt4fW28UnI/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #443 June 22, 2020 Gotta Love chicago and those gun laws they have - Very protective!! This is horrible - I stopped watching after I heard that kids were shot and killed over the weekend. https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-weekend-shootings-2-dead-at-least-21-wounded-in-gun-violence-thus-far/2292837/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,191 #444 June 22, 2020 One dead at the range https://www.wtva.com/content/news/Accidental-fatal-shooting-at-Lee-County-gun-range-571333181.html Removed the magazine, but didn't check the chamber https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/06/19/detroit-sister-shot-brother-chance-williams/3221477001/ Children playing, 6 yo dead https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/06/19/detroit-sister-shot-brother-chance-williams/3221477001/ 4 yo kills 1 yo https://wsbt.com/news/local/prosecutor-childs-shooting-death-was-accidental-gun-discharged-by-4-year-old-sibling Show off "thought is was unloaded", kills friend https://www.wfla.com/news/local-news/what-are-you-going-to-shoot-me-palm-harbor-man-pulls-trigger-kills-friend-showing-off-gun/ Unclear "accidental shooting", juvenile dead https://www.kcrg.com/2020/06/19/one-dead-after-accidental-shooting-in-washington-county/ Carrying a loaded weapon in your waistband can kill you https://nypost.com/2020/06/21/man-dies-in-east-village-after-gun-accidentally-discharges-in-waistband/?fbclid=IwAR3d0GDYYhryMXOx00jdJlCVV6EUIkijccffoX_81NO-hT2FtRt9iX4i6kY Another 3 yo dead https://www.limaohio.com/news/415303/accidental-shooting-kills-3-year-old-in-lima These are just some randomly chosen accidental shooting from the past couple weeks. There are many more and a ton of mere wounding that will affect the victims in varying degrees. The hits just keep on coming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #445 June 22, 2020 2 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Gotta Love chicago and those gun laws they have - Very protective!! Well, they USED to be protective until Scalia caused them to be pretty much the same as everywhere else by way of the Heller decision. Since then murders have gone UP in Chicago. Fortunately it's mostly gang-bangers offing each other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #446 June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, kallend said: Fortunately it's mostly gang-bangers offing each other. . . . i guess you count the potential gang-bangers as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #447 June 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: . . . i guess you count the potential gang-bangers as well. What part of "mostly" is it that you fail to comprehend? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #448 June 23, 2020 4 hours ago, kallend said: What part of "mostly" is it that you fail to comprehend? The part where you said "Fortunately" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,191 #449 June 23, 2020 This 3 yo may or may not live..... https://www.nbc12.com/2020/06/22/family-says-year-old-girl-critically-injured-henrico-shooting/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,191 #450 June 25, 2020 I can only find ONE accidental killing in the last three days......wow! Quite a few children wounded. God must have been merciful this week. Don't play with killing machines. 16 yo boy killed 16 yo girl. https://azdailysun.com/news/state-and-regional/16-year-old-girl-dead-after-gun-discharges-in-phoenix-home/article_3b0122ab-bfde-5693-aaf8-a1caff6c54a5.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites