Trump breaks 10,000

[kallend 2,027]

10,000 false or misleading claims.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/29/president-trump-has-made-more-than-false-or-misleading-claims/?utm_term=.169fcae66507&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1

[brenthutch 444]

I'm surprised that it's not more

[DJL 235]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

I'm surprised that it's not more

Well, we probably don't need to hold our breath.

[kallend 2,027]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

I'm surprised that it's not more

No-one does it better than Trump.

[turtlespeed 220]

9 hours ago, kallend said:

No-one does it better than Trump.

Oh - Come on - Don't sell Hillary short - 

You are only supposing because she wasn't elected.

[yobnoc 142]

3 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Oh - Come on - Don't sell Hillary short - 

You are only supposing because she wasn't elected.

I found myself wondering what it is about Hillary that invokes such a disproportionate visceral response every time you mention her.  I mean, I only dislike her because I think she's opportunistic and mean - hell, even her own staff had emails where they acknowledged she was a huge biotch.  But like...you take it to a completely different level.  What has convinced you that she's just the most awful, terrible, no-good, lying, cheating, murderous woman ever to walk the planet?  I'm genuinely curious as to how someone can hate her more than David Dennison, given the plethora of factual information available about both of them.  Like...Trump literally committed a felony in coordination with Michael Cohen to deceive the American electorate which, it's not a stretch of the imagination to believe wholeheartedly, caused him to win the election due to a mere 70,000 votes stretched across 3 states.

Can you name something more an affront to the American electorate that Hillary has ever done?  Facts only please.

[billvon 2,995]

1 hour ago, yobnoc said:

I found myself wondering what it is about Hillary that invokes such a disproportionate visceral response every time you mention her.  I mean, I only dislike her because I think she's opportunistic and mean - hell, even her own staff had emails where they acknowledged she was a huge biotch.  But like...you take it to a completely different level.  What has convinced you that she's just the most awful, terrible, no-good, lying, cheating, murderous woman ever to walk the planet? 

She's a democrat and a woman - and vilifying those segments of the population has been a winning strategy for republicans.

[kallend 2,027]

On 4/29/2019 at 6:12 PM, turtlespeed said:

Oh - Come on - Don't sell Hillary short - 

You are only supposing because she wasn't elected.

If you carry on this way you will reach the same level of credibility as rushmc.

[turtlespeed 220]

5 hours ago, kallend said:

If you carry on this way you will reach the same level of credibility as rushmc.

Nice.  Then when you learn to take a joke, I'll have finally sunk to your level.

[turtlespeed 220]

10 hours ago, billvon said:

She's a democrat and a woman - and vilifying those segments of the population has been a winning strategy for republicans.

Wrong on so many levels.

I am not misogynistic.

Question - Why is Trump an acceptable target, while your blessed Hillary is so defended?

 

[turtlespeed 220]

12 hours ago, yobnoc said:

I found myself wondering what it is about Hillary that invokes such a disproportionate visceral response every time you mention her.  I mean, I only dislike her because I think she's opportunistic and mean - hell, even her own staff had emails where they acknowledged she was a huge biotch.  But like...you take it to a completely different level.  What has convinced you that she's just the most awful, terrible, no-good, lying, cheating, murderous woman ever to walk the planet?  I'm genuinely curious as to how someone can hate her more than David Dennison, given the plethora of factual information available about both of them.  Like...Trump literally committed a felony in coordination with Michael Cohen to deceive the American electorate which, it's not a stretch of the imagination to believe wholeheartedly, caused him to win the election due to a mere 70,000 votes stretched across 3 states.

Can you name something more an affront to the American electorate that Hillary has ever done?  Facts only please.

You realize that what she did along with the DNC to Bernie Sanders was all kinds of fucked up, right?

Her husband meeting on a tarmac was deplorable.  No One saw through that did they? Come on.

There is nothing but shady dealings and backroom deals and lies and dishonesty with BOTH the Clintons and the Trumps.

I was asked what makes me hate her so much more?

The hypocrisy of the people that defend her.

It is sickening to me to witness.  They both lie cheat and steal.  They both are deplorable.

The one thing that pushes me against her are the same thoughts and feelings that push you against Flat Earthers, and Climate Change Deniers.

[billvon 2,995]

2 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

You realize that what she did along with the DNC to Bernie Sanders was all kinds of fucked up, right?

Yep.

Trump's first wife said he raped her.  He grabs women by the pussy and gets away with it because he's famous. (And then brags about it.)  He's been credibly accused of sexual assault by over a dozen women.   He invites Russia to attack the US and promises them they will be rewarded.  He has sex with porn stars, pays his lawyer to silence them, and then lies about it.  He calls murderous Nazis "very fine people."  He demands loyalty to himself over the law, and fires people when they take a stand against it.

All those things are far more fucked up than a politician trying to win a nomination.

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Question - Why is Trump an acceptable target, while your blessed Hillary is so defended?

She's not "my blessed Hillary" nor is she "so defended" by anyone here.  She's not even a very good politician.  She was merely a better choice than Trump - and that becomes clearer and clearer every day.

[JerryBaumchen 1,364]

43 minutes ago, billvon said:

She was merely a better choice than Trump - and that becomes clearer and clearer every day.

Hi Bill,

And quite often, in an election, it is the lesser of two evils.  

And, for me, the above is a fact not an opinion.

Jerry Baumchen

[kallend 2,027]

3 hours ago, billvon said:

Yep.

Trump's first wife said he raped her.  He grabs women by the pussy and gets away with it because he's famous. (And then brags about it.)  He's been credibly accused of sexual assault by over a dozen women.   He invites Russia to attack the US and promises them they will be rewarded.  He has sex with porn stars, pays his lawyer to silence them, and then lies about it.  He calls murderous Nazis "very fine people."  He demands loyalty to himself over the law, and fires people when they take a stand against it.

All those things are far more fucked up than a politician trying to win a nomination.

 

You forgot a few things:  Fraudulent "university", lies like an oriental rug, bankrupted a CASINO, cheated his contractors and investors.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

22 minutes ago, kallend said:

You forgot a few things:  Fraudulent "university", lies like an oriental rug, bankrupted a CASINO, cheated his contractors and investors.

Yeah, don't forget 'bribed at least two state's attorney's general to make criminal charges about the 'University' go away, bribed a New York DA to make felony real estate fraud charges against his kids go away, 

Likely laundered money for the Russian mob with his golf courses, cheated the municipalities where his golf courses are located out of property taxes by understating the value, while at the same time defrauding banks on loans by overstating the value.
Racial discrimination as a landlord and as a boss, bankrupted multiple businesses, while pocketing huge salaries, the list is pretty long.

HRC and her husband are pretty slimy folks, but their criminal activities are pretty minimal.

[turtlespeed 220]

29 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

HRC and her husband are pretty slimy folks, but their criminal activities are pretty minimal.

More likely, they are better at not getting caught.

[gowlerk 2,198]

1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

More likely, they are better at not getting caught.

Yes, of course. They have simply slipped under the radar because no one was watching them. Try again.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

11 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

More likely, they are better at not getting caught.

That would be masterminding and managing a rather large criminal undertaking. Wouldn't that make her more qualified to be president? You keep stating Trump was the better candidate, do you generally vote for the dumber/more inept of two candidates?

[kallend 2,027]

12 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

More likely, they are better at not getting caught.

Oh puleeeze.  You've been reading too many memes from the loony wing of the conservatives and Russian trolls.

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1 minute ago, SkyDekker said:

That would be masterminding and managing a rather large criminal undertaking. Wouldn't that make her more qualified to be president? 

Why am I not surprised that those are qualities you would likely vote for.

I didn't, and won't . . . vote for trump.

I will vote against Hillary every time.

[kallend 2,027]

2 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Why am I not surprised that those are qualities you would likely vote for.

I didn't, and won't . . . vote for trump.

I will vote against Hillary every time.

Which makes you a Trump Enabler.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

3 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Why am I not surprised that those are qualities you would likely vote for.

I didn't, and won't . . . vote for trump.

I will vote against Hillary every time.

Not qualities I would vote for. But you acknowledged Trumps criminal behaviour and stated that in your opinion the Clinton's were just as criminal, but just not getting caught.

If I had to pick between two criminals to run a country I would rather not have a stupid one.

I know you will vote against Hillary every time, just like you will vote against Obama every time. What I highly doubt is that you are honest about the reasoning.

[billvon 2,995]

30 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

More likely, they are better at not getting caught.

Given that there have been half a dozen investigations and over $100 million in taxpayer money spent trying to find something to charge them with - and failing miserably - the odds are there's nothing there.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

42 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

More likely, they are better at not getting caught.

Yeah, because the Republicans have never done any investigations of her.

Is she that good? Or are the Republicans that inept?

[turtlespeed 220]

32 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Not qualities I would vote for. But you acknowledged Trumps criminal behaviour and stated that in your opinion the Clinton's were just as criminal, but just not getting caught.

If I had to pick between two criminals to run a country I would rather not have a stupid one.

I know you will vote against Hillary every time, just like you will vote against Obama every time. What I highly doubt is that you are honest about the reasoning.

I would vote for Obama - 

And it makes me happy that you aren't able to pick.