kallend 2,027 #51 May 16, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 8:42 AM, turtlespeed said: Dishonesty Narcissism Hypocrisy Back room dealing Misalignment with political views. Narcissism? Nobody does it better than Trump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #52 May 16, 2019 What difference does it make, at this point, anyway? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #53 May 16, 2019 Exposing his lies and misdeeds reduces his ability to further abuse his power - at least by a little. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #54 May 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, billvon said: Exposing his lies and misdeeds reduces his ability to further abuse his power - at least by a little. It did for Hillary, so I expect you are correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #55 May 17, 2019 14 hours ago, turtlespeed said: It did for Hillary, so I expect you are correct. pssst - Hillary wasn't and isn't POTUS. Slight difference in power there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #56 May 17, 2019 On 4/30/2019 at 5:35 PM, billvon said: Given that there have been half a dozen investigations and over $100 million in taxpayer money spent trying to find something to charge them with - and failing miserably - the odds are there's nothing there. But the millions spent investigating Trump and finding nothing there don’t mean anything? The irony of that can’t be measured. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #57 May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, normiss said: pssst - Hillary wasn't and isn't POTUS. Slight difference in power there. BUT - exposing her lies and misdeeds KEPT her from being POTUS, and we can all thank whatever higher power you subscribe to for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #58 May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, rushmc said: But the millions spent investigating Trump and finding nothing there don’t mean anything? The irony of that can’t be measured. You have heard the expression "Sour Grapes"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #59 May 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: BUT - exposing her lies and misdeeds KEPT her from being POTUS, and we can all thank whatever higher power you subscribe to for that. Russian disinformation. I'm not a subscriber though. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #60 May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, normiss said: Russian disinformation. I'm not a subscriber though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #61 May 18, 2019 On 5/17/2019 at 8:24 AM, rushmc said: But the millions spent investigating Trump and finding nothing there don’t mean anything? The irony of that can’t be measured. Compare the costs with Whitewater, Benghazigate, Emailgate, and take into account the money collected by those various investigations in civil penalties. And if nothing was found, how come there were so many indictments and convictions in the Mueller investigation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #62 May 19, 2019 On 5/17/2019 at 6:24 AM, rushmc said: But the millions spent investigating Trump and finding nothing there don’t mean anything? Nope - since the investigation found over a hundred crimes, put criminals behind bars and even made money. More money was gathered in fines than was spent on the investigation. A win-win. (Unless you are a Trump sycophant, of course.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #63 May 23, 2019 "I don't do coverups" said the man who paid hush money to a porn star. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,364 #64 May 23, 2019 2 hours ago, kallend said: "I don't do coverups" said the man who paid hush money to a porn star. Hi John, And to a Playboy Playmate. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #65 June 4, 2019 Pretty good article on Trump's lies and meta-lies.https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/americans-must-accept-that-none-of-these-things-ever-happened/2019/06/03/9ed405ec-8638-11e9-a491-25df61c78dc4_story.html?utm_term=.0dddf15f1c88&wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1 Americans must accept that none of these things ever happened Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #66 June 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, kallend said: Americans must accept that none of these things ever happened He demanded an apology from the ‘fake news media’ for saying he called Markle nasty, I wonder what the chances are of him apologising for lying about it? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #67 June 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, jakee said: He demanded an apology from the ‘fake news media’ for saying he called Markle nasty, I wonder what the chances are of him apologising for lying about it? Well, you gotta love his 'business skills.' If you don't like a deal, walk away. Just leave. Don't pay your bills. And sue. https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/02/politics/trump-sunday-times-interview-brexit-grb-intl/index.html Can I go to Mar-A-Lago and say "I didn't like the service. I'm not paying my bill"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #68 June 4, 2019 6 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Well, you gotta love his 'business skills.' If you don't like a deal, walk away. Just leave. Don't pay your bills. And sue. https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/02/politics/trump-sunday-times-interview-brexit-grb-intl/index.html Can I go to Mar-A-Lago and say "I didn't like the service. I'm not paying my bill"? You can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #69 June 7, 2019 Trump announces that we’re going to the moon. Three weeks later Fox News covers it, Trump sees it, doesn’t remember it came from him, decides it’s stupid, and attacks NASA for it. Then he claims the Moon is a part of Mars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #70 June 7, 2019 2 hours ago, normiss said: Trump announces that we’re going to the moon. Three weeks later Fox News covers it, Trump sees it, doesn’t remember it came from him, decides it’s stupid, and attacks NASA for it. Then he claims the Moon is a part of Mars. The text of the tweet: “For all of the money we are spending, NASA should NOT be talking about going to the Moon - We did that 50 years ago. They should be focused on the much bigger things we are doing, including Mars (of which the Moon is a part), Defense and Science!” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,364 #71 June 7, 2019 55 minutes ago, kallend said: Mars (of which the Moon is a part Hi John, No wonder he does not want his college grades made public. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #72 June 17, 2019 Many (most?) of Trump's base concede that he is a liar but it doesn't bother them. The trouble with having a national leader who is a proven pathological liar is that when he really needs his statements to have credibility with allies, he has a classic "crying wolf" situation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #73 June 17, 2019 4 hours ago, kallend said: Many (most?) of Trump's base concede that he is a liar but it doesn't bother them. The trouble with having a national leader who is a proven pathological liar is that when he really needs his statements to have credibility with allies, he has a classic "crying wolf" situation. Many (most?) of Hillary's base concede that she is a liar, but it doesn't bother them either. There is a lot more sameness here than difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #74 June 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: There is a lot more sameness here than difference. No there isn't. Pretty much every adult has lied. Claiming that is what makes all adults alike is asinine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #75 June 17, 2019 Just now, SkyDekker said: No there isn't. Pretty much every adult has lied. Claiming that is what makes all adults alike is asinine. LOL No - asinine is posting a comment about how bad it is that one guy lies and completely ignoring the fact that if he had been defeated we would likely be getting the same amount of deliberate lies from the candidate that defeated Trump. The hypocrisy is asinine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites