turtlespeed 221 #26 April 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Yeah, because the Republicans have never done any investigations of her. Is she that good? Or are the Republicans that inept? Both - Republicans suck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #27 April 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I would vote for Obama - And it makes me happy that you aren't able to pick. Makes me happy too. I have curtailed personal and company travel to the US. I have further ensured our company doesn't pursue investments in the US. We are small fish, but rather not invest half a billion into a country set on repeating history's mistakes. We'll invest and grow in areas where "thank you's" outnumber the "fuck you's". Plus, no business likes an unstable environment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #28 April 30, 2019 Seems like a win-win for us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,206 #29 April 30, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: I have further ensured our company doesn't pursue investments in the US. I on the other hand have moved more of my tiny savings into the US. Despite the brief Trump era my feeling is that the US economy is more stable than any other. Unless you count third world nations that are stable in their poverty. With the emergence of the strong US oil sector it is hard to see the US dollar retreating anytime soon. The party will be on until the fracking boom runs out. Edited April 30, 2019 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #30 April 30, 2019 1 minute ago, gowlerk said: I on the other hand have moved more of my tiny savings into the US. Despite the brief Trump era my feeling is that the US economy is more stable than any other. Unless you count third world nations that a stable in poverty. With the emergence of the strong US oil sector it is hard to see the US dollar retreating anytime soon. The party will be on until the fracking boom runs out. sounds like a win win there too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #31 May 1, 2019 55 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Seems like a win-win for us. Sure it does, cause you prefer the fuck you's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #32 May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, SkyDekker said: Sure it does, cause you prefer the fuck you's. Don't be so bitter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #33 May 1, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Edited May 1, 2019 by jakee 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #34 May 1, 2019 6 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I would vote for Obama - So why didn't you? These claims of balanced, bipartisan views after the fact are somewhat hard to believe when you never had a good thing to say during his run, and you're still allowing yourself to be fooled by the most obvious, ludicrous right wing nonsense as an excuse for needing to vote against Hillary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #35 May 1, 2019 On 4/30/2019 at 5:58 PM, turtlespeed said: I would vote for Obama - And it makes me happy that you aren't able to pick. You "would" under what circumstances?. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #36 May 1, 2019 3 hours ago, kallend said: You "would" under what circumstances?. If he were eligible for reelection and was up against Trump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #37 May 1, 2019 3 hours ago, kallend said: You "would" under what circumstances?. If he was running against Hillary, I guess Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #38 May 1, 2019 7 hours ago, jakee said: So why didn't you? These claims of balanced, bipartisan views after the fact are somewhat hard to believe when you never had a good thing to say during his run, and you're still allowing yourself to be fooled by the most obvious, ludicrous right wing nonsense as an excuse for needing to vote against Hillary. . . . Because you know me so well. I didn't vote for Obama when he was running because I thought there were better candidates out there to choose from. Why is it so hard to believe that people actually vote their conscience? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #39 May 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: If he were eligible for reelection and was up against Trump. Are you likely to vote for a Democrat against Trump at the next election? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #40 May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, jakee said: Are you likely to vote for a Democrat against Trump at the next election? That depends wholly on who is put forth as a candidate. I will not be voting for trump. I will do a write in if I have to, like I did last election. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #41 May 1, 2019 Just now, turtlespeed said: Why is it so hard to believe that people actually vote their conscience? For one because you just said that you voted for Trump even though you agree he’s a lying criminal conman. Also because at least part of the reason you don’t like Hillary is, again, because you’ve allowed yourself to fall for transparent partisan fakery. (Seriously, are you not embarrassed to have posted that picture thinking it was real?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #42 May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, jakee said: For one because you just said that you voted for Trump even though you agree he’s a lying criminal conman. Also because at least part of the reason you don’t like Hillary is, again, because you’ve allowed yourself to fall for transparent partisan fakery. (Seriously, are you not embarrassed to have posted that picture thinking it was real?) I have never said that I voted for trump. please show where I did. Embarrassed? Yeah - I have egg on my face. I'm over that - I try not to dwell in the inconsequential. I admitted my mistake and moved on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #43 May 4, 2019 . Federalist Paper No. 68 says future presidents would likely be “characters preeminent for ability and virtue,” reasoning that the electoral college would eliminate those who had only “talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity.” Alexander Hamilton never met Donald Trump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #44 May 4, 2019 9 hours ago, kallend said: . Federalist Paper No. 68 says future presidents would likely be “characters preeminent for ability and virtue,” reasoning that the electoral college would eliminate those who had only “talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity.” Alexander Hamilton never met Donald Trump. The electoral college (as it was originally intended) should have rejected Trump's victory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #45 May 5, 2019 On 5/1/2019 at 8:21 AM, turtlespeed said: I have never said that I voted for trump. please show where I did. Embarrassed? Yeah - I have egg on my face. I'm over that - I try not to dwell in the inconsequential. I admitted my mistake and moved on. I have never said that I voted for trump. please show where I did. Still waiting . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #46 May 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I have never said that I voted for trump. please show where I did. Apologies, I must have misremembered. I'm still puzzled at your statement that you'd vote for Obama though - O don't remember you supporting any of his policies. What did he do that you approved of? I'm also confused that you'd describe Clinton meeting Osama Bin Laden in the recent past 'inconsequential'. If that's not something that would bias you against her, then what on earth has she actually done to make you actively dislike her so much? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #47 May 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, jakee said: Apologies, I must have misremembered. I'm still puzzled at your statement that you'd vote for Obama though - O don't remember you supporting any of his policies. What did he do that you approved of? I'm also confused that you'd describe Clinton meeting Osama Bin Laden in the recent past 'inconsequential'. If that's not something that would bias you against her, then what on earth has she actually done to make you actively dislike her so much? As far as presidents go - his rein didn't end with as much damage to the American reputation as Trump's will. If it were Obama against Trump - I'd pick Obama. Hillary . . . That's easy - A lot of the same things that Trump did that bias you against him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #48 May 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Hillary . . . That's easy - A lot of the same things that Trump did that bias you against him. Worse than being friends with Osama Bin Laden? Like? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #49 May 6, 2019 15 hours ago, jakee said: Worse than being friends with Osama Bin Laden? Like? Dishonesty Narcissism Hypocrisy Back room dealing Misalignment with political views. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 150 #50 May 15, 2019 Its such a pity Christopher Hitchens is not around anymore. He'd be making mincemeat of both Hillary and Trump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites