Looks like trickle down works after all

[Stumpy 284]

37 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

And that is why they all pay to come to the US for higher education 

good one

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

50 minutes ago, kallend said:

Meanwhile the national debt increased at roughly 5% for the year, and the rate of increase is accelerating.

So wage increases are not keeping pace with borrowing.

It's easy to give the appearance of wealth when it's just borrowed.

Isn't that Trump's MO?

[Coreece 190]

6 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

I also admit that I despise others telling me to what and how they are going to spend my money.

I see most others tiptoeing around that and not admitting that is how they feel. 

Well, there is the "Social Security" thread where he admits similar feels.

 

4 hours ago, jakee said:

He said he's happy to pay more than people who make less than him. He said he's happy to pay a greater percentage than people who make less than him. He said he's happy to pay more than he pays now.

Sounds pretty damn consistent to me.

Well, then there is the "Social Security" thread. . .

 

 

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[brenthutch 444]

The “all” refers to the countries not the individual 

[normiss 800]

21 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

The “all” refers to the countries not the individual 

Wrong brush. Again.

[yobnoc 142]

1 hour ago, Coreece said:

Well, there is the "Social Security" thread where he admits similar feels.

 

Well, then there is the "Social Security" thread. . .

 

 

It's not that simple.

Social Security is a failing program.  The numbers bear that out.

Our country is getting dumber.  We need to do something about it.

It's not inconsistent to say "I'd opt out of this failing program if I could" and "Education needs to be better funded/tuition free because America is getting dumb as sand."

At least I don't feel that way.  I'm the one who holds those positions, after all.

[turtlespeed 220]

5 hours ago, billvon said:

I have no doubt that is true, and I would support such a move.

However, given that you just claimed that you "despise others telling me to what and how they are going to spend my money" I find your vehemence amusing.  Apparently you only despise others telling you what and how to spend your money when it's spent on something that does not support your agenda; when it is something that does support your agenda you are fine with it.

Welcome to the attitude of  . . . . pretty much everyone in the US, including all those liberals you are always attacking.

Right.  Which makes me a hypocrite - I can admit it.  It's sad that so many here can't admit it.(well - to be honest it's "Won't" they could if they were true to themselves)

I also have bias. I admit that too. Shocker!!  

BUT - back to your reply . . . .So . . . if I agree with how someone spends my money they aren't telling me how I am going to be forced to do that - I am a willing participant.

[yobnoc 142]

2 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Right.  Which makes me a hypocrite - I can admit it.  It's sad that so many here can't admit it.(well - to be honest it's "Won't" they could if they were true to themselves)

I also have bias. I admit that too. Shocker!!  

BUT - back to your reply . . . .So . . . if I agree with how someone spends my money they aren't telling me how I am going to be forced to do that - I am a willing participant.

Semantic sidestep.  Nice move!

[turtlespeed 220]

1 minute ago, yobnoc said:

Semantic sidestep.  Nice move!

No sidestep - just honesty.

[Coreece 190]

6 minutes ago, yobnoc said:

It's not that simple.

I'm just amusing myself.  Apologies.

[yobnoc 142]

32 minutes ago, Coreece said:

I'm just amusing myself.  Apologies.

Whaaaa??? Apologies online are weird.  You don't have to.  We all know what we're getting into on these threads.

[brenthutch 444]

Trickledown is STILL working!  Longest economic expansion in US history!

[kallend 2,027]

11 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Trickledown is STILL working!  Longest economic expansion in US history!

Non sequitur. 

[brenthutch 444]

Let me explain in a format that you may find easier to understand.

Tax cuts + deregulation = record economic   expansion

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

Well, how about:

Huge deficits + Trade war = Trouble coming soon

 

But it won't be until Trump is out of office, so it won't be his problem (he has said so).

[SkyDekker 1,465]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

Let me explain in a format that you may find easier to understand.

Tax cuts + deregulation = record economic   expansion

Specially passengers flying on Boeing jets have been very happy with the reduction in regulations.

[kallend 2,027]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Let me explain in a format that you may find easier to understand.

Tax cuts + deregulation = record economic   expansion

You seem to forget that it's funded by massive borrowing despite Trump's promise to eliminate the debt. Maybe he plans to default, like he did with his casinos. 

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

7 minutes ago, kallend said:

You seem to forget that it's funded by massive borrowing despite Trump's promise to eliminate the debt. Maybe he plans to default, like he did with his casinos. 

And a lot of other stuff. 

His 'Business model' seems to be:

Run up huge amounts of debt.
Line his own pockets.
Declare bankruptcy
Leave all the investors, banks, employees, vendors and contractors shit out of luck.

So far, as President, he's done the first two. 
And, as I noted above, has indicated he doesn't care what the future brings because he won't be in charge then.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-debt-crisis-fine-wont-be-here-report-2018-12

Everyone who seems to think he is a 'successful businessman' ignores the fact that he screws over just about everyone who invests with him or does business with him.

[turtlespeed 220]

2 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

And a lot of other stuff. 

His 'Business model' seems to be:

Run up huge amounts of debt.
Line his own pockets.
Declare bankruptcy
Leave all the investors, banks, employees, vendors and contractors shit out of luck.

So far, as President, he's done the first two. 
And, as I noted above, has indicated he doesn't care what the future brings because he won't be in charge then.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-debt-crisis-fine-wont-be-here-report-2018-12

Everyone who seems to think he is a 'successful businessman' ignores the fact that he screws over just about everyone who invests with him or does business with him.

That does seem to be his model - 

 

PLEASE - we are begging you - Put Up Someone That can Win.

[wmw999 2,447]

3 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

That does seem to be his model - 

 

PLEASE - we are begging you - Put Up Someone That can Win.

Turtle, find the good in the candidates. There isn’t a perfect one, any more than there’s a perfect republican. 

Maybe Trump should be re-elected; we’re likely to get into financial trouble, and it’s best laid at the right door. But that’s wishing ill for personal ends, just as saying “let the banks fail” would have been 10-11 years ago. 

Wendy P. 

[billvon 2,991]

4 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

PLEASE - we are begging you - Put Up Someone That can Win.

No you're not.  At this point Abraham Lincoln could run on the democratic ticket and you'd say "nope, his grandstanding lies about the South make him basically a dishonest media whore.  It's really too bad."  And you'd tsk tsk about how the Democrats can't nominate anyone moral, and do the concern troll thing.

There are some pretty good candidates in the running this time.  I am sure you will never, ever see that.

[turtlespeed 220]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

No you're not.  At this point Abraham Lincoln could run on the democratic ticket and you'd say "nope, his grandstanding lies about the South make him basically a dishonest media whore.  It's really too bad."  And you'd tsk tsk about how the Democrats can't nominate anyone moral, and do the concern troll thing.

There are some pretty good candidates in the running this time.  I am sure you will never, ever see that.

You are so wrong again.

[brenthutch 444]

If the Democrats nominate a “spread the wealth around” candidate I predict another crash, as hard working Americans sequester their $$$ in anticipation of the new socialist policies.

[kallend 2,027]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

If the Democrats nominate a “spread the wealth around” candidate I predict another crash, as hard working Americans sequester their $$$ in anticipation of the new socialist policies.

Of course, the last crash came about under a conservative President and the recovery under a liberal one.

I give your prediction no credibility whatsoever. 

[billvon 2,991]

15 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

You are so wrong again.

Prove me wrong.