billvon 3,070 #126 February 6, 2020 46 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: So why do you think the left allowed B-Burg to buy his way into the election? Are you replying to Skydekker's post? If so, read his post again for the answer to your question. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,436 #127 February 6, 2020 Hi folks, Re: DNC Hopefuls I heard Joe Biden take a rather cheap shot at Pete B on the evening news. Something about 'he has never governed, only been a mayor of small town.' I think Joe's coming in 4th in Iowa is about to tank him. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #128 February 6, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, Re: DNC Hopefuls I heard Joe Biden take a rather cheap shot at Pete B on the evening news. Something about 'he has never governed, only been a mayor of small town.' I think Joe's coming in 4th in Iowa is about to tank him. Jerry Baumchen And Pete could easily fire back that Biden has never served in uniform. Pete is the only remaining veteran in the group. Jump to 6:46 in this video and listen to him talk about TBI: Oh, what I'd give to hear him say that in a debate with Mango Mussolini! Edited February 6, 2020 by ryoder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #129 February 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, ryoder said: And Pete could easily fire back that Biden has never served in uniform. Pete is the only remaining veteran in the group. Jump to 6:46 in this video and listen to him talk about TBI: Trump has explained that TBI's are just headaches. Not like the trauma Trump went through during the Vietnam War, where he lived in constant fear of the threat of STD's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,436 #130 February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, ryoder said: And Pete could easily fire back that Biden has never served in uniform. Hi Robert, I just do not think that he is a 'cheap shot' kind of guy. I wish him well with his efforts. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #131 February 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: 1 hour ago, ryoder said: And Pete could easily fire back that Biden has never served in uniform. Hi Robert, I just do not think that he is a 'cheap shot' kind of guy. I wish him well with his efforts. I agree, but he kinda did take a cheap shot if you watch the video - but it's Real Time with BM, so I'll give him a pass. There's just something about the guy that I like. I think it was when he opposed O'Rourke about taxing Churches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #132 February 6, 2020 On 2/5/2020 at 9:28 AM, turtlespeed said: The Party of "Down with the Rich White Guy - We are all about Minorities" changes the rules to let the rich white guy in. Members of the "Down with the Rich White Guy" party are members of the Democratic Party but that's about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #133 February 10, 2020 (edited) On 2/5/2020 at 7:24 PM, turtlespeed said: So why do you think the left allowed B-Burg to buy his way into the election? Because moderate republicans are more likely to vote for an old, rich white guy than a young gay one? Is that a trick question? Ask yourself this. Is it better to stick to your principles and lose, or to compromise and win? The Republican Party have shown that they’re about winning at ANY cost and the Democrats will have to change to compete with that philosophy. Edited February 10, 2020 by yoink Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #134 February 10, 2020 10 hours ago, yoink said: Because moderate republicans are more likely to vote for an old, rich white guy than a young gay one? apparently not just Republicans https://people.com/politics/iowa-voter-changed-her-mind-because-pete-buttigieg-is-gay/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #135 February 10, 2020 14 hours ago, yoink said: Because moderate republicans are more likely to vote for an old, rich white guy than a young gay one? Is that a trick question? Ask yourself this. Is it better to stick to your principles and lose, or to compromise and win? The Republican Party have shown that they’re about winning at ANY cost and the Democrats will have to change to compete with that philosophy. Personally - I stick to my principals and lose. It seems to be the cheaters and the liars that win more often than not. That depends on the municipality I work in though. When I'm in Austin, the muni there is leaned WAY on the liberal side. I lose more there than anywhere, due to contractors not paying their people and sticking me with the bill. And the courts let them get away with it, and stick the guy with the money and the contracts with paying the additional bill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #136 February 11, 2020 This is why the left loses elections they expect to win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #137 February 11, 2020 2 hours ago, airdvr said: This is why the left loses elections they expect to win. I thought the left wanted to get rid of the elitist thinking. You mean <GASP> that was an untruth? intelligentsia noun Save Word To save this word, you'll need to log in. Log In in·tel·li·gent·sia | \ in-ˌte-lə-ˈjen(t)-sē-ə , -ˈgen(t)- \ Definition of intelligentsia : intellectuals who form an artistic, social, or political vanguard or elite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #138 February 11, 2020 8 hours ago, airdvr said: This is why the left loses elections they expect to win. Maybe, but he isn't really wrong. Even here in SC you can often see how anything beyond "Me have gun, me be strong" is difficult to grasp by many. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #139 February 11, 2020 5 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I thought the left wanted to get rid of the elitist thinking. You mean <GASP> that was an untruth? intelligentsia noun Save Word To save this word, you'll need to log in. Log In in·tel·li·gent·sia | \ in-ˌte-lə-ˈjen(t)-sē-ə , -ˈgen(t)- \ Definition of intelligentsia : intellectuals who form an artistic, social, or political vanguard or elite Why would anybody be opposed to intellectuals forming an artistic, social or political group of people who lead the way in new developments or ideas? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #140 February 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Why would anybody be opposed to intellectuals forming an artistic, social or political group of people who lead the way in new developments or ideas? They threaten the status quo and can lead to uncomfortable realizations that the world is not how they think it is. Remember, society in general has a long history of condemning, imprisoning and outright killing heretics who propose out of touch intellectual ideas like "the Earth is round," "gays are people too," "the Earth moves through space" or "blood circulates through the lungs." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #141 February 11, 2020 40 minutes ago, billvon said: They threaten the status quo and can lead to uncomfortable realizations that the world is not how they think it is. Remember, society in general has a long history of condemning, imprisoning and outright killing heretics who propose out of touch intellectual ideas like "the Earth is round," "gays are people too," "the Earth moves through space" or "blood circulates through the lungs." I'm just bringing attention to the "elitist" portion. Since it is the elitists that the left rails against so vehemently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #142 February 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I'm just bringing attention to the "elitist" portion. Since it is the elitists that the left rails against so vehemently. The left rails against the extreme inequality we see in the USA today. The right rails against science, knowledge, and intellectual achievement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #143 February 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I'm just bringing attention to the "elitist" portion. Since it is the elitists that the left rails against so vehemently. Not sure you understand what elitist means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #144 February 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I'm just bringing attention to the "elitist" portion. Since it is the elitists that the left rails against so vehemently. Do you think "intelligent" is similar to "elitist?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #145 February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: I'm just bringing attention to the "elitist" portion. Since it is the elitists that the left rails against so vehemently. I think you're confused. It's the right, like you, that rails against the elite. Which makes it all the more odd that they queue up to kiss Trump's feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,436 #146 February 12, 2020 Hi folks, I just read where Yang has folded his tent. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/11/andrew-yang-drops-out-114208 And Joe B. looks to be in 5th place. https://www.politico.com/ Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #147 February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, billvon said: Do you think "intelligent" is similar to "elitist?" I think you can be one or the other or both. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #148 February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, jakee said: I think you're confused. It's the right, like you, that rails against the elite. Which makes it all the more odd that they queue up to kiss Trump's feet. I'm not confused. I don't want Bloomberg anymore than I want Trump. I'm much more in favor of someone like Obama - that doesn't start with a lot of wealth, and posh upbringing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,436 #149 February 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: I just read where Yang has folded his tent. Hi folks, And, one more gone: https://www.npr.org/2020/02/11/756126032/colorado-sen-michael-bennet-ends-2020-democratic-presidential-campaign Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #150 February 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, And, one more gone: https://www.npr.org/2020/02/11/756126032/colorado-sen-michael-bennet-ends-2020-democratic-presidential-campaign Jerry Baumchen He is my Senator (I disown Cory Gardner). I like him, but but I don't think he has the charisma for a presidential campaign. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites