JoeWeber 2,820 #476 March 5, 2020 2 hours ago, airdvr said: I would say of the two choices that Biden would have the best chance. I liked Bernie in 2016 but his proposals just seem too far out left. Biden is moderate enough to grab a lot of 2016 Trump votes. I don't believe Bernie would win. I believe Biden can win but everyone needs to quit biting his ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,532 #477 March 5, 2020 It’s the job of opponents to bite his ass. That said, Biden needs to hire an attack dog now; Trump has a lot of them already. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #478 March 5, 2020 Warren is out: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/elizabeth-warren-ends-presidential-run-n1150436 No endorsement so far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #479 March 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, wmw999 said: It’s the job of opponents to bite his ass. That said, Biden needs to hire an attack dog now; Trump has a lot of them already. Wendy P. Only if he is serious about the effort. He may not be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,561 #480 March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: Go back and read the question I asked. Go back and read the response to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #481 March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, jakee said: Go back and read the response to it. 1 hour ago, jakee said: Go back and read the response to it. I don't have time to teach you anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,561 #482 March 5, 2020 52 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I don't have time to teach you anymore. That’s such a lazy insult - it doesn’t even flow from the conversation. Like, we’re not actually talking about a subject you’d study. Seriously dude, come back with a better one, that was just embarrassing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,432 #483 March 5, 2020 5 hours ago, airdvr said: I liked Bernie in 2016 but his proposals just seem too far out left. Hi airdvr, While in the 'debates' everyone seems to be too loud, Bernie seems to have a flamethrower for a mouth. I fully expected him to start frothing at the mouth at anytime. Not someone I want for POTUS; but, I would vote for him over Trump. IMO it's now Biden's to lose, Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,432 #484 March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, ryoder said: No endorsement so far. Hi Robert, 'Warren Declines To Endorse' https://www.npr.org/2020/03/05/805052138/sen-elizabeth-warren-drops-out-of-the-2020-presidential-race Looks like she won't have a place in any Biden administration. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,532 #485 March 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: 'Warren Declines To Endorse' Looks like she won't have a place in any Biden administration. Either that, or she is waiting to make a deal or see what happens between now and the convention. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #486 March 6, 2020 Well Dems...looks like you're down to two rich, old, white men. How did that happen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,561 #487 March 6, 2020 8 hours ago, airdvr said: Well Dems...looks like you're down to two rich, old, white men. How did that happen? Rich? Sure he’s not poor, but when was the last time the nominee from either party had less money than Bernie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #488 March 6, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, airdvr said: Well Dems...looks like you're down to two rich, old, white men. How did that happen? Sir, your point was?:How Mike Pence Became A Millionaire From Government Pensions Edited March 6, 2020 by Phil1111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #489 March 6, 2020 My point was the Dems are all about diversity and social justice. This is the best they can do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,820 #490 March 6, 2020 Just now, airdvr said: My point was the Dems are all about diversity and social justice. This is the best they can do? Where were you when there were men and women of color on the stage? FYI, we're not all "Dems" in the sense that we're all like ants in a colony. And frankly, this go around I think beating Trump is more important that social justice. I'm guessing that I'm far from alone amongst my comrades. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,532 #491 March 6, 2020 Electing someone simply because they’re a woman or minority is almost as ist as not considering them because of it. Just as the evangelicals who liked Cruz best sucked it up and voted for Trump largely, I imagine most progressives will do the same for whoever the Democrats nominate? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #492 March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, airdvr said: My point was the Dems are all about diversity and social justice. This is the best they can do? I guess that means that Trump is the best Republican. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #493 March 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: I guess that means that Trump is the best Republican. Nice try with the strawman but this is the DNC Hopefuls thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,432 #494 March 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, airdvr said: Nice try Hi airdvr, Re: 'Well Dems...looks like you're down to two rich, old, white men.' Are you saying Trump does not meet this criteria? Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #495 March 6, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, airdvr said: Nice try with the strawman but this is the DNC Hopefuls thread. If you believe that the two Democratic candidates have to represent the best the Democratic party has to offer, why would you not believe the Republican President is the best the Republican Party has to offer? It isn't a strawman, it is simple logic. Edited March 6, 2020 by SkyDekker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,532 #496 March 6, 2020 Because that’s uncomfortable. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #497 March 6, 2020 47 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi airdvr, Re: 'Well Dems...looks like you're down to two rich, old, white men.' Are you saying Trump does not meet this criteria? Jerry Baumchen Well Jerry...he's not a Democrat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #498 March 6, 2020 47 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: If you believe that the two Democratic candidates have to represent the best the Democratic party has to offer, why would you not believe the Republican President is the best the Republican Party has to offer? It isn't a strawman, it is simple logic. You can twist it any way you want. The question still stands. Now, is Trump the best the R's have to offer...obviously no. But your DNC gave us Trump by trying to install one of the most divisive persons you could possibly find. There was only one other person I thought could have been a better choice for Rs in 2016...Ben Carson. BTW..I didn't vote in the primary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,532 #499 March 6, 2020 It would be hard to classify Bernie as rich; he’s had a good salary for years, but he could very easily have saved his net worth in a 401K based on a Congress and mayor’s salary. No, he’s not poor, but our current system won’t tolerate a poor candidate Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #500 March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, wmw999 said: It would be hard to classify Bernie as rich; he’s had a good salary for years, but he could very easily have saved his net worth in a 401K based on a Congress and mayor’s salary. No, he’s not poor, but our current system won’t tolerate a poor candidate Wendy P. Where I come from a 2 million dollar net worth is pretty rich. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
