normiss 801 #101 November 26, 2019 23 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I'm not so sure. The first time, I wrote in Mickey Mouse (because I couldn't spell Condoleezza Rice and thought that a fictional cartoon rodent would make a better choice than either candidate) but Trump has delivered on taxes, fossil fuels, deregulation, judicial appointments and confronting China. I personally think the man is a loathsome idiot but his policies are largely conservative boiler plate policies. In a perfect world Trump would be impeached and removed from office and Pence would take his place. Otherwise I will probably be forced to vote for him this time around. I'd start with a different news source first. Your claims are highly inaccurate. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #102 November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: I'm not so sure. The first time, I wrote in Mickey Mouse (because I couldn't spell Condoleezza Rice and thought that a fictional cartoon rodent would make a better choice than either candidate) but Trump has delivered on taxes, fossil fuels, deregulation, judicial appointments and confronting China. I personally think the man is a loathsome idiot but his policies are largely conservative boiler plate policies. In a perfect world Trump would be impeached and removed from office and Pence would take his place. Otherwise I will probably be forced to vote for him this time around. time for a period not a comma wassup with Obama? some people say the dude has had his day he needs to go away he's making such a fuss cause he's not one of us that's just what I hear he's stokin' you with fear 'cause he's not from here aint no illusion or collusion it's confusion you know they all lyin' you know how hard I'm tryin' and tellin' you the truth from me the way it needs to be you can see your minds are free you know what I meant we're in the same tent all 63 million of us and Brent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #103 December 2, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 6:46 AM, wmw999 said: I know it’s ageism, but I think I’d like to see one of the younger set, with Warren as the veep-who-is-listened-to (kind of like a not-evil Cheney). Mayor Pete is smart, but not that experienced. Personally, I like Steve Bullock; i think he brings a real ability to appeal to and work with a variety of political persuasions. We’re on a bad path financially; Warren understands finances, and Bullock will have some idea of what can actually happen. at least that’s my thought But I haven’t done any sort of in depth study, because I’m not a political animal, and am unlikely to do anything besides vote. Wendy P. I think he just dropped out. Why is it so hard to find a candidate from the left that even has a chance? I'm very disheartened in what is there to choose from. NOW - Bloomburg is in the race and likely just ruined the chances of anyone decent getting in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #104 December 3, 2019 12 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I think he just dropped out. Why is it so hard to find a candidate from the left that even has a chance? I'm very disheartened in what is there to choose from. NOW - Bloomburg is in the race and likely just ruined the chances of anyone decent getting in. I'd quite like to see a Bloomberg / Warren ticket. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #105 December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, yoink said: I'd quite like to see a Bloomberg / Warren ticket. Haven't we had enough rich old white men mucking things up? Personally, I think his views on a few issues have already doomed him. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #106 December 3, 2019 8 hours ago, normiss said: Haven't we had enough rich old white men mucking things up? personally I could care less what race, gender or socioeconomic group the candidate comes from if I can get behind there agenda 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #107 December 4, 2019 11 hours ago, Rick said: personally I could care less what race, gender or socioeconomic group the candidate comes from if I can get behind there agenda ^^^^^^ This!! Looks like Harris jumped off the band wagon too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #108 December 4, 2019 I wonder what chance Bloomberg has to get the nod from the DNC? It may come down to him or Biden. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #109 December 4, 2019 52 minutes ago, Rick said: I wonder what chance Bloomberg has to get the nod from the DNC? It may come down to him or Biden. He's got some odd positions on issues. Smoking and soft drink laws wouldn't have any impact on me personally, so those are cool though. His tax ideas would drive us deeper in debt, he seems to have an almost racist approach to policing laws, and he's an idiot on where we are with pot. I still wish the billionaires that want change would simply use their money to support decent and skilled states-people that understand the process of policies. I'm not too excited about Biden, but he is a significantly better option than what we currently have. Biden / Harris might get more support I think. Who knows at this point though, so much flux happening. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #110 December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, normiss said: I still wish the billionaires that want change would simply use their money to support decent and skilled states-people that understand the process of policies. I read a tongue-in-cheek proposal for what Bloomberg could do for the country: Offer Trump $10B to resign. - Bloomberg would still have 80% of his current net worth. - Trump would finally have the net worth he claims to have. It's a win-win! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #111 December 9, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 12:49 PM, ryoder said: I read a tongue-in-cheek proposal for what Bloomberg could do for the country: Offer Trump $10B to resign. - Bloomberg would still have 80% of his current net worth. - Trump would finally have the net worth he claims to have. It's a win-win! AND - it just might work! Biden / Harris is just not enough. I don't see any candidates that can beat trump. They need more and stronger support. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #112 December 11, 2019 Do you guys really want a 3X failure at the top of your ticket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #113 December 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Do you guys really want a 3X failure at the top of your ticket? Why not? It worked for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #114 December 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Why not? It worked for you. With Russian help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #115 December 13, 2019 (edited) On 12/11/2019 at 3:27 PM, normiss said: With Russian help. HAHAHA - Well the Ukraine helping Hillary didn't work - sooooooo . . . Maybe they can help Biden this time? (No, Not Hunter Biden) Edited December 13, 2019 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,198 #116 December 21, 2019 Amy Klobuchar has long been my favourite in this crowd. But I did not believe she had much of a chance. It's beginning to look like maybe she does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #117 December 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Amy Klobuchar has long been my favourite in this crowd. But I did not believe she had much of a chance. It's beginning to look like maybe she does. I heard this on the radio this morning, and looked up the source: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #118 January 16, 2020 On 12/21/2019 at 11:18 AM, ryoder said: I heard this on the radio this morning, and looked up the source: Of the candidates left - I am leaning toward Amy the most. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,198 #119 February 4, 2020 Bloomberg, The Better Billionaire! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #120 February 5, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 7:53 AM, gowlerk said: Bloomberg, The Better Billionaire! OK - So let me get this straight: The Party of "Down with the Rich White Guy - We are all about Minorities" changes the rules to let the rich white guy in. Because they don't quite have enough candidate vying for the chance to run against Trump. One Oligarc traded for another? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #121 February 5, 2020 Bloomberg was asked, after Trump had tweeted about him a few times, what he thought about two billionaires fighting over twitter. His response was: Who is the other billionaire? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #122 February 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Bloomberg was asked, after Trump had tweeted about him a few times, what he thought about two billionaires fighting over twitter. His response was: Who is the other billionaire? The oligarc or the other oligarc? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,198 #123 February 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Who is the other billionaire? That's easy. Vlad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #124 February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: The oligarc or the other oligarc? Trump is not an oligarch. He has been very good at using other people's money and being used as a puppet. The US has turned into an oligarchy, but I have brought that up in the late Bush or early Obama years. On top of that Americans generally seem to think that wealth equates to intelligence. Idiocy like that doesn't help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #125 February 6, 2020 4 hours ago, SkyDekker said: Trump is not an oligarch. He has been very good at using other people's money and being used as a puppet. The US has turned into an oligarchy, but I have brought that up in the late Bush or early Obama years. On top of that Americans generally seem to think that wealth equates to intelligence. Idiocy like that doesn't help. So why do you think the left allowed B-Burg to buy his way into the election? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites