JerryBaumchen 1,435 #151 February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ryoder said: the charisma for a presidential campaign. Hi Robert, And I do not think Amy K. does either. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #152 February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I think you can be one or the other or both. Ah. So your conflation of "elitist" with "intelligensia" was a red herring. (Red turtle?) Carry on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #153 February 12, 2020 If you're thinking there are too many candidates in the democratic field, use this handy flowchart to narrow your options down. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #154 February 12, 2020 That is absolutely great — thanks for the help! Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,435 #155 February 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, billvon said: use this handy flowchart to narrow your options down. Hi Bill, Damn, it took me straight to Pete B. Guess I'll send him another check. Jerry Baumchen PS) When did you become so omniscient? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #156 February 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, wmw999 said: That is absolutely great — thanks for the help! It'd be neat to have an app like that where you could run multiple sets of contingencies to see which candidate you'd end up with the most. Maybe even add filters to account for social bias. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #157 February 14, 2020 On 2/12/2020 at 12:11 AM, Coreece said: It'd be neat to have an app like that where you could run multiple sets of contingencies to see which candidate you'd end up with the most. Maybe even add filters to account for social bias. I think that the Dems will be able to accomplish the impossible, and ensure the reelection of DJT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,822 #158 February 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I think that the Dems will be able to accomplish the impossible, and ensure the reelection of DJT. No, people like you will be responsible. Even if the Dems weren't doing their damndest to blow the thing you've already stated the reasons you'd vote Trump again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #159 February 14, 2020 There is no possible way that I could vote for Trump again, given I did not vote for him in the first place. If it were not for his positions on gun control and climate change, I would consider the other Republican, Mike Bloomberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,822 #160 February 14, 2020 34 minutes ago, brenthutch said: There is no possible way that I could vote for Trump again, given I did not vote for him in the first place. If it were not for his positions on gun control and climate change, I would consider the other Republican, Mike Bloomberg Which of those two sentences should I take as your position? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #161 February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: No, people like you will be responsible. They will blame others for their own actions - in the long tradition of Republicans. "Nazis on the rise again? THANKS OBAMA!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #162 February 14, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, brenthutch said: I think that the Dems will be able to accomplish the impossible, and ensure the reelection of DJT. And why not? They apparently approve of his realpolitik style so much that they're actually thinking of adopting it themselves. 6 hours ago, brenthutch said: If it were not for his positions on gun control and climate change, I would consider the other Republican, Mike Bloomberg His ads are only highlighting those two points to help him get the democrat nomination - after that I doubt we'll hear much about them. Same way they treat minorities after they garner their votes. . . Edited February 14, 2020 by Coreece Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #163 February 14, 2020 Bloomberg gave $800K to Democratic Party during campaign launch Good to know you can buy your way into the dance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #164 February 14, 2020 4 hours ago, airdvr said: Bloomberg gave $800K to Democratic Party during campaign launch Good to know you can buy your way into the dance. With enough money in the USA you can buy anything that's available. Why do you have a problem with that? It's not even your party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #165 February 14, 2020 46 minutes ago, kallend said: With enough money in the USA you can buy anything that's available. Why do you have a problem with that? It's not even your party. Because it feels as dirty, and slimy as Trump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #166 February 14, 2020 44 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Because it feels as dirty, and slimy as Trump. Isn't it the American Dream though? In the US success has pretty much always been measured by wealth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #167 February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: Because it feels as dirty, and slimy as Trump. Using money isn't slimy. It's what you use it FOR that makes it noble or crass. And using it to unseat Trump is pretty f'ing noble. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,435 #168 February 15, 2020 43 minutes ago, billvon said: And using it to unseat Trump is pretty f'ing noble. Hi Bill, It is ABSOLUTELY noble. And, IMO, it is the best interests of this country. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #169 February 15, 2020 17 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Because it feels as dirty, and slimy as Trump. Having enough money to buy anything is "dirty, and slimy as Trump"? I was just in La Paz (Baja) and saw the amazing yacht that the "dirty, and slimy" Steve Jobs bought. It now belongs to his widow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,822 #170 February 15, 2020 1 minute ago, kallend said: Having enough money to buy anything is "dirty, and slimy as Trump"? I was just in La Paz (Baja) and saw the amazing yacht that the "dirty, and slimy" Steve Jobs bought. It now belongs to his widow. Last I saw it was in St. Martin. Looked like a cross between a WWI Battle Cruiser and a Pagoda. But when the outcome doesn't affect your future why care? With Bloomberg the outcome could very much affect the future so I'm happy if he spends all $61B to beat Trump. I further think it's time for Biden, Sanders, Warren and Steyer to go home and for everyone else to quit chipping away at him. We're not looking for perfect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,435 #171 February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: I further think it's time for Biden, Sanders, Warren and Steyer to go home and for everyone else to quit chipping away at him. We're not looking for perfect. Hi Joe, I could not agree more. I was just reading about where some D's in South Carolina are abandoning Joe B. IMO more to come. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #172 February 15, 2020 23 hours ago, billvon said: Using money isn't slimy. It's what you use it FOR that makes it noble or crass. And using it to unseat Trump is pretty f'ing noble. It's backed by the DNC - The DNC is trying to screw Sanders out of the nomination again. That's slime and dirty. The voters are speaking loudly, and the DNC is ignoring the voters, and steering to what they want.(Read: pays the most money) Look what that got us last time! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #173 February 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: The DNC is trying to screw Sanders out of the nomination again. 17 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: The voters are speaking loudly, and the DNC is ignoring the voters Sanders appears to have the support of about 25 to 30 percent of the D primary voters at this point. If he does get nominated I don't think he can win. But I've been wrong more times than I've been right about US elections! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #174 February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Sanders appears to have the support of about 25 to 30 percent of the D primary voters at this point. If he does get nominated I don't think he can win. But I've been wrong more times than I've been right about US elections! It's not that he has 25% - That makes it look like he's not in the lead, so far. It's that he has MORE votes and support than any other single candidate. The DNC would word it like you just did. "Sanders has just a menial 25% of the vote, while all the other candidates have the remaining SEVENTY- FIVE percent. So Clearly Sanders is behind." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #175 February 16, 2020 38 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: It's backed by the DNC - The DNC is trying to screw Sanders out of the nomination again. Because Bloomberg gave them a lot of money? To paraphrase a famous guy - that doesn't make them unethical, that makes them smart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
