turtlespeed 220 #26 December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, SkyDekker said: I don't disagree with you. But if you want equality, then there shouldn't be men's and women's teams. Once you create those, you have to agree that men and women are not equal. It's so nice when we can agree on things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #27 December 20, 2019 9 hours ago, SkyDekker said: I don't disagree with you. But if you want equality, then there shouldn't be men's and women's teams. Once you create those, you have to agree that men and women are not equal. Men and women are NOT equal. They are different. However, pretending that those differences justify treating them as lesser is wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 318 #28 December 20, 2019 On 7/31/2019 at 1:13 PM, kallend said: Since the thread has drifted to other sports. . . I don't see any gender advantage in skydiving. The best women are as good as the best men, and average women may well be better than average men. Yet we still have women only categories in world records, etc. and in many of the Mondial events. U.S. nationals don't have that anymore. We had a discussion about that at the World Champs in Gold Coast last year. We're keeping the all-female categories for the time being for two reasons: a) in many countries, women aren't allowed (or are "strongly discouraged") from being so close to men in their teams. This gives the women an opportunity to participate that is culturally acceptable. And b) some countries would (or do) cut women out of the sport entirely. Having a category that requires the team to be all female means that if those countries want to win all the medals, they have to develop and field an all-female team as well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites