Coreece 190 #26 July 31, 2019 Just fucking jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meat.missile 25 #27 July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, yoink said: It wasn't long ago that people were jumping off cliffs and using skydiving gear. That doesn't make them 'skydives'. They were BASE jumps. That's a good point. I figured I would get hate for "internet whoring" anyway. Lose lose. I'll try that next time and see what I get as feedback. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #28 August 5, 2019 On 7/31/2019 at 11:09 AM, meat.missile said: If you don't know the technical difference between a BASE jump and a skydive, you should not make the jump. signed: Grumpy old grey-bearded Master rigger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meat.missile 25 #29 August 5, 2019 56 minutes ago, riggerrob said: If you don't know the technical difference between a BASE jump and a skydive, you should not make the jump. signed: Grumpy old grey-bearded Master rigger So vague. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #30 August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, meat.missile said: So vague. Er ..... jumping single-canopy rigs - from aircraft - was deemed STUPID back during the 1920s or 1930s. Those regulations are written in blood! You may call me grumpy, but I still think that jumping single-canopy rigs - from aircraft - is STUPID. If the aircraft can lift you high enough to use a reserve, then you are foolish to jump without a reserve. Is that blunt enough for you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #31 August 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, riggerrob said: Er ..... jumping single-canopy rigs - from aircraft - was deemed STUPID back during the 1920s or 1930s. Those regulations are written in blood! You may call me grumpy, but I still think that jumping single-canopy rigs - from aircraft - is STUPID. Especially since that there are perfectly good BASE systems that can take a reserve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meat.missile 25 #32 August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, riggerrob said: Is that blunt enough for you? Doesn't have anything to do with your first point, but whatever ends this interaction is good enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meat.missile 25 #33 August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, billvon said: Especially since that there are perfectly good BASE systems that can take a reserve. BASEr are hard to come by. I cant think of any others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #34 August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, meat.missile said: BASEr are hard to come by. I cant think of any others. No worries. If you skydive, there are plenty of good skydiving rigs available. If you BASE, there are plenty of BASE rigs available. If you want to take a BASE rig out of an airplane, you still have a relatively safe (and legal) option. If it's too hard for you, then the first two options are still available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meat.missile 25 #35 August 5, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, billvon said: If you want to take a BASE rig out of an airplane, you still have a relatively safe (and legal) option. What option? Edited August 5, 2019 by meat.missile more on topic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #36 August 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, meat.missile said: What option? Not playing this game with you any more. Do whatever you like, and call your jumps whatever you like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meat.missile 25 #37 August 6, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, billvon said: Not playing this game with you any more. Do whatever you like, and call your jumps whatever you like. It's not a game. You can't just say that and provide no details. P.S. as this was in Europe, It was relativity safe and legal, but I assume you are talking about in the US. Edit: For anyone else reading apparently the BASEr is being manufactured again. Edited August 6, 2019 by meat.missile Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dudeman17 335 #38 August 6, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, billvon said: 22 hours ago, meat.missile said: (Apparently BASEr's are TSO'd) Edited August 6, 2019 by dudeman17 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meat.missile 25 #39 August 7, 2019 10 hours ago, dudeman17 said: (Apparently BASEr's are TSO'd) Yep, it is the only TSO'd BASE rig that can take a chest mount reserve.* *to my knowledge. I thought Bilvon knew of another one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 130 #40 August 7, 2019 B - building A - antenna S - span E - earth helicopter is not part of the definition 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20kN 93 #41 August 8, 2019 Mirage makes the W series container which is basically a hybrid between a BASE container and a skydiving container. It accepts BASE mains but with their smallest reserve packing tray so it's legal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meat.missile 25 #42 August 8, 2019 20 hours ago, billeisele said: B - building A - antenna S - span E - earth helicopter is not part of the definition Neither are, cranes, dams, chimneys, amusement park rides, electrical towers, Statues, trees, or wind turbines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meat.missile 25 #43 August 8, 2019 2 hours ago, 20kN said: Mirage makes the W series container which is basically a hybrid between a BASE container and a skydiving container. It accepts BASE mains but with their smallest reserve packing tray so it's legal. They are pretty cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #44 August 8, 2019 5 hours ago, meat.missile said: Neither are, cranes, dams, chimneys, amusement park rides, electrical towers, Statues, trees, or wind turbines. Are you STILL looking for a way to call your skydive from an aircraft a BASE jump? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meat.missile 25 #45 August 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, gowlerk said: Are you STILL looking for a way to call your skydive from an aircraft a BASE jump? Oh no, I really don't care. Their post was just bad logic. Edited August 8, 2019 by meat.missile 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dudeman17 335 #46 August 8, 2019 B.A.S.E. Basically Anything, Something, Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #47 August 8, 2019 15 hours ago, meat.missile said: Neither are, cranes, dams, chimneys, amusement park rides, electrical towers, Statues, trees, or wind turbines. So you can't use those to get your BASE number. They are still fixed objects, attached to the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #48 August 8, 2019 18 hours ago, 20kN said: Mirage makes the W series container which is basically a hybrid between a BASE container and a skydiving container. It accepts BASE mains but with their smallest reserve packing tray so it's legal. Apex used to make the Sorcerer as well, a two canopy BASE rig with a MARD. (In fact, IIRC it was the first MARD system out there.) However as far as I know it was never TSOed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyfox2007 22 #49 September 11, 2019 (edited) On 7/29/2019 at 12:46 AM, meat.missile said: It was $150 and too unsafe to climb due to ice and snow. Also that is a terrible argument. If I go to the heli-boogie, those are still BASE jumps even though there was no climbing. That's a fallacy... I'm kidding with you =) But in all seriousness, I don't think Carl Boenish would agree with your definition. The climb is an integral part of base jumping and is often enjoyed for its own sake, not as just some obstacle to overcome on the way to the "jump off point." -JD- Edited September 11, 2019 by skyfox2007 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
