brenthutch 444 #26 September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, wmw999 said: If Q can't think of a place to post that doesn't also encourage all kinds of stuff that's not really conducive to the people who actually live in the US living together, then maybe they're not about people living together, but instead trying to eliminate some of them. And is that what your America is about? Wendy P. https://images.app.goo.gl/Z4f12myxDkowNF189 I thought the Q could do anything they wanted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,836 #27 September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: https://images.app.goo.gl/Z4f12myxDkowNF189 I thought the Q could do anything they wanted In a thready nearby, Ron said: "I am not what most would call a normal Christian." No kidding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,251 #28 September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Not formerly, they are. The bottom line is that Luciferians believe they are smarter than God and they are out to convince others that He does not exist. Sigh....more circular nonsense. You can claim anything you like, insult anyone's morality, and claim superiority, as long as you play the faith card. This is the dark side of belief. It's use to denigrate the other. And this is what I despise. Not your faith, but your abuse of others. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #29 September 30, 2019 It’s pretty sad that in the 21st Century there are still those who believe in invisible sky zombies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,075 #30 September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, RonD1120 said: On the other hand, unrestricted free speech, 1st Amendment, allows evil to be exposed. True. And Jessica Leeds, Ivana Trump, Kristin Anderson, Jill Harth, Lisa Boyne, Temple Taggart, Cathy Heller, Karena Virginia, Bridget Sullivan, Melinda McGillivray, Natasha Stoynoff, Rachel Crooks, Ninni Laaksonen and Jessica Drake have used that right to expose Trump's sexual assaults and rapes. Good for them - and thank God for the First Amendment that allowed them to speak out against evil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,075 #31 September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Not formerly, they are. The bottom line is that Luciferians believe they are smarter than God and they are out to convince others that He does not exist. So today's liberals are actually Luciferians who go around drawing pentagrams in goat's blood and whatnot? And, I imagine, Hilary Clinton has a child sex ring in the basement of a DC pizza place, as Q once claimed. Do Luciferians (who are really liberals of course) get free pizza in DC? I mean, that would be hard proof. I thought Trump's ignorance (as revealed in his tweet) was pretty funny, but that's even better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #32 September 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, billvon said: . . . .Luciferians who go around drawing pentagrams in goat's blood . . . . Not any sillier than any other religious ritual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,251 #33 September 30, 2019 47 minutes ago, kallend said: Not any sillier than any other religious ritual. Like wafers and wine symbolizing the body and blood of Christ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #34 September 30, 2019 7 hours ago, wmw999 said: The platform that was chosen was one that is also used heavily by violently anti-Islamic individuals (violently as in willing to take action), by child pornographers, by sexual slavers, by virulently anti-woman guys, and by self-declared racists. There is a reason Ron is longing for the platform and feels at home around those who frequent it. People here are with Ron like Trump supporters are with Trump. Oh, he must really mean something else, oh it really isn't that bad, oh he is just unusual. All the same arguments to try and justify what is plainly obvious. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #35 September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, gowlerk said: Like wafers and wine symbolizing the body and blood of Christ? I never understood why the Catholic church wants to promote cannibalism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 855 #36 September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, ryoder said: I never understood why the Catholic church wants to promote cannibalism. I having trouble deciding which of their 2 major promotions is worse...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #37 October 1, 2019 19 hours ago, gowlerk said: Sigh....more circular nonsense. You can claim anything you like, insult anyone's morality, and claim superiority, as long as you play the faith card. This is the dark side of belief. It's use to denigrate the other. And this is what I despise. Not your faith, but your abuse of others. Interesting. My wife makes comments to me in that vein from time to time. I do not see myself as abusive but I recognize that others might. I do fall into the trap of spiritual selfishness. When the Holy Spirit convicts me I seek to change. The work is in the demon-possessed valleys not on the mountain tops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #38 October 1, 2019 14 hours ago, ryoder said: I never understood why the Catholic church wants to promote cannibalism. A lot of Christians feel the same way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,251 #39 October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, RonD1120 said: The work is in the demon-possessed valleys not on the mountain tops. 2 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Interesting. My wife makes comments to me in that vein from time to time. I do not see myself as abusive but I recognize that others might. I do fall into the trap of spiritual selfishness. When the Holy Spirit convicts me I seek to change. I'm reasonably sure that in person you are unlikely to be abusive. What I am speaking of is a sense I get from you that you believe only people who are like you are worthy. But like your wife I also hate the sin, but not the sinner. Those who live in the "demon-possessed valleys" are your brothers and sisters. Even if you reject them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 855 #40 October 1, 2019 6 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Interesting. My wife makes comments to me in that vein from time to time. I do not see myself as abusive but I recognize that others might. I do fall into the trap of spiritual selfishness. When the Holy Spirit convicts me I seek to change. The work is in the demon-possessed valleys not on the mountain tops. It's people on those "mountain tops" who believe in the devil and that "demon-possessed valleys" exist. Non-believers aren't the devil worshipers, christians are. Non-believers are.....just that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #41 October 1, 2019 7 hours ago, RonD1120 said: I do fall into the trap of spiritual selfishness. What does that mean? Quote The work is in the demon-possessed valleys not on the mountain tops. But you moved away from the valleys to the mountaintops. You talk about it literally all the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 569 #42 October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, jakee said: What does that mean? But you moved away from the valleys to the mountaintops. You talk about it literally all the time. Honestly I have family who are this fundamentalist and I don’t think it is sensible to engage. The bible says something along the lines of ‘my ways seem foolish to those of the world’ and I’ve had it quoted at me more times than I care to admit. Some people need a belief as a reason to live. They don’t understand a world without god, it is too scary and chaotic for them to fathom. So god gives them a reason to cope and make sense of it all. Many of these people are reformed drug or alcoholics and god is the ‘safe’ drug. All my life I’ve lived by the creed that they are harmless and not to take it away from them, but I was/am wrong. They end up breeding terrorists and fucking up people’s heads. But I don’t know the answer, because logic will never work. They are continually taught that logic is sinful and wrong. My only hope is that by our example we can show that it is possible to live and make sense of a world without god. Happily, and no we don’t all go off raping and pillaging at every opportunity we get. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,251 #43 October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, nigel99 said: Many of these people are reformed drug or alcoholics and god is the ‘safe’ drug. "I used to be all fucked up on dope, now I'm all fucked up on the Lord." Cheech and Chong IIRC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,836 #44 October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, nigel99 said: Honestly I have family who are this fundamentalist and I don’t think it is sensible to engage. The bible says something along the lines of ‘my ways seem foolish to those of the world’ and I’ve had it quoted at me more times than I care to admit. Some people need a belief as a reason to live. They don’t understand a world without god, it is too scary and chaotic for them to fathom. So god gives them a reason to cope and make sense of it all. Many of these people are reformed drug or alcoholics and god is the ‘safe’ drug. All my life I’ve lived by the creed that they are harmless and not to take it away from them, but I was/am wrong. They end up breeding terrorists and fucking up people’s heads. But I don’t know the answer, because logic will never work. They are continually taught that logic is sinful and wrong. My only hope is that by our example we can show that it is possible to live and make sense of a world without god. Happily, and no we don’t all go off raping and pillaging at every opportunity we get. When I first showed up at SC I noticed there were a lot of very clever people working hard to get Ron to see the light but going nowhere. Thinking that there must be a prize for whomever was first I got after it, too. But like all who came before me: nada. He'll continue to get takers and continue to use this forum as a platform. He knows exactly what he's doing, tin foil hat or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #45 October 1, 2019 12 hours ago, RonD1120 said: When the Holy Spirit convicts me I seek to change. The work is in the demon-possessed valleys not on the mountain tops. Expecto Patronum 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #46 October 4, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 8:49 AM, gowlerk said: I'm reasonably sure that in person you are unlikely to be abusive. What I am speaking of is a sense I get from you that you believe only people who are like you are worthy. But like your wife I also hate the sin, but not the sinner. Those who live in the "demon-possessed valleys" are your brothers and sisters. Even if you reject them. Everyone has a quality of worthliness given to them by God at creation. Not all are my brothers and sisters. Some have a greater potential of becoming brothers and sisters than others. Some are dedicated to the dark side and I am very wary of those individuals. Those unfortunates I reject only in the sense that a higher spiritual attractor is needed to soften them. I am aware of my limits. Sometimes I connect and sometimes I do not. The Holy Spirit speaks to us all. Some hear His voice more clearly than others. Some refuse to even try to listen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,544 #47 October 4, 2019 Ron, Mother Teresa tried for years to hear the Holy Spirit after it stopped. She continued her good works anyway. I think the voice is very faint sometimes. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #48 October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, wmw999 said: Ron, Mother Teresa tried for years to hear the Holy Spirit after it stopped. She continued her good works anyway. I think the voice is very faint sometimes. Wendy P. I agree. The practice requires first desire then comparative focus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #49 October 4, 2019 5 hours ago, RonD1120 said: The Holy Spirit speaks to us all. Some hear His voice more clearly than others. Some refuse to even try to listen. Yeah, and 'the Devil's voice is sweet to hear'. It's abundantly obvious that some people hear exactly what they want to hear, and pretend it's the 'holy spirit.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,251 #50 October 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: It's abundantly obvious that some people hear exactly what they want to hear, and pretend it's the 'holy spirit.' You must obey the voices inside your head. But who are we kidding. If you can believe in the bible and yet deny that all men are your brother then it's easy to make "the holy spirit" tell you anything you want it to tell you. What a screwed up belief system. No accountability whatsoever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites