nigel99 564 #226 March 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: FTR as a Christian I have been employed as Substance Use Disorder Counselor, Crisis Intervention Counselor, and for a period of time in private practice as a Christian Counselor. Substituting one substance abuse for another is not really dealing with the problem. Sorry but if you really believe the stuff you post here, you’ve got a major disconnect with reality. I have seen so called ‘christian’ counselling cause major damage to people, mental health issues need to be dealt with by trained professionals. And before Coreece and co, get their noses bent out of shape, my experience is with Christians. I’m sure other religions have their fair share... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,529 #227 March 23, 2020 On the other hand, having a Christian counselor makes sense to me. One should shop for one's therapist, and find one who's consistent with one's world view. If you view the world through a Christian lens, then you want one who will use those tools. OTOH, if you find one who just doubles down on crap ("hell yeah your wife is subordinate") then it's a disservice. But there are assholes in every place; consider the therapists who manipulate and/or sleep with their patients. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,812 #228 March 23, 2020 36 minutes ago, nigel99 said: Substituting one substance abuse for another is not really dealing with the problem. Sorry but if you really believe the stuff you post here, you’ve got a major disconnect with reality. I have seen so called ‘christian’ counselling cause major damage to people, mental health issues need to be dealt with by trained professionals. And before Coreece and co, get their noses bent out of shape, my experience is with Christians. I’m sure other religions have their fair share... It can have uncertain results, that's sure. I have a sister whose newly born again friends persuaded her to try AA. She went from a funny sort to have a drink with to completely intolerable on every occasion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #229 March 23, 2020 20 hours ago, kallend said: Nevada shut down its brothels. Oh the humanity! Oh - That's perfectly fine. The government will F*%K us plenty to make up for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #230 March 25, 2020 On 3/23/2020 at 7:19 AM, nigel99 said: I have seen so called ‘christian’ counselling cause major damage to people, mental health issues need to be dealt with by trained professionals. If there is a medical issue that's causing mental problems then ya, see a shrink for your prescription - but still, 20% of psychiatrists have been sued for malpractice. Many are for suicides committed under the doctor's care, while others are due to the 10% of psychiatrists engaging in unethical sexual behavior/misconduct with their patients. On 3/23/2020 at 7:19 AM, nigel99 said: And before Coreece and co, get their noses bent out of shape, my experience is with Christians. You're right, merely anecdotal. Nothing to see here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,064 #231 March 26, 2020 10 hours ago, Coreece said: If there is a medical issue that's causing mental problems then ya, see a shrink for your prescription Mental health is a medical issue. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 564 #232 March 26, 2020 20 hours ago, Coreece said: If there is a medical issue that's causing mental problems then ya, see a shrink for your prescription - but still, 20% of psychiatrists have been sued for malpractice. Many are for suicides committed under the doctor's care, while others are due to the 10% of psychiatrists engaging in unethical sexual behavior/misconduct with their patients. You're right, merely anecdotal. Nothing to see here. Except many don’t do they? They attribute it to demons, or generational curses instead of telling their flock, hey go see a Dr. As for sexual malpractice, you obviously haven’t heard many jokes about catholic priests have you? But at the core of the problem is human belief. Especially when people are told to or choose to ‘believe’ without question. It’s a fascinating topic, anti vacs people will ignore science because of a belief, people believe in UFOs being hidden in Area 51 the list is endless. Q falls firmly into this category. Gullible people, not willing to question or research. The flood of Coronavirus stories, which are true and which are fake? Critical thinking and research are crucial skills that most of us lack, and with the flow of information I don’t even know how you avoid the more subtle ‘stories’ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #233 March 26, 2020 11 hours ago, billvon said: 21 hours ago, Coreece said: If there is a medical issue that's causing mental problems then ya, see a shrink for your prescription Mental health is a medical issue. All I'm saying is that if it's a medical problem, then see a medical doctor. Depression caused by a chemical imbalance would typically require lab tests and a doctor's prescription. Depression caused by life's little miseries is normal and is typically resolved without seeking medical attention. 1 hour ago, nigel99 said: 21 hours ago, Coreece said: If there is a medical issue that's causing mental problems then ya, see a shrink for your prescription Except many don’t do they? Yes, the vast majority of christians seek medical attention for medical issues. I suppose it's hard to see that when one's chronic hatred continually obstructs their limited worldview. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 564 #234 March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Coreece said: All I'm saying is that if it's a medical problem, then see a medical doctor. Depression caused by a chemical imbalance would typically require lab tests and a doctor's prescription. Depression caused by life's little miseries is normal and is typically resolved without seeking medical attention. Yes, the vast majority of christians seek medical attention for medical issues. I suppose it's hard to see that when one's chronic hatred continually obstructs their limited worldview. My mother posted on Facebook (technically reposted) ’To all you people stocking up on hand sanitiser, without Jesus it is not going to save you’ .There are plenty of religious people looking to Jesus to save them from this, my mother included. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #235 March 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, nigel99 said: There are plenty of religious people looking to Jesus to save them from this, my mother included. Oh the humanity! If it becomes a medical issue, most will seek medical help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #236 March 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Coreece said: Oh the humanity! If it becomes a medical issue, most will seek medical help. Not nearly enough, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #237 March 26, 2020 I'm curious how the "Coronavirus Hoax" is working out for the Patriots that are in control. Ron, any insight? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #238 March 26, 2020 32 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: 2 hours ago, Coreece said: If it becomes a medical issue, most will seek medical help. Not nearly enough, though. How many is enough? Enough for what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,064 #239 March 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Coreece said: All I'm saying is that if it's a medical problem, then see a medical doctor. Depression is a medical problem; psychiatrists are medical doctors. So it all works out. Quote Depression caused by a chemical imbalance would typically require lab tests and a doctor's prescription. Depression caused by life's little miseries is normal and is typically resolved without seeking medical attention. No, depression is not "normal." The deplorable attitude that (for example) losing your family to illness, and then entering a depression, is normal and can be resolved by simply getting over "life's little miseries" leads to a lot of serious problems (including suicide.) It is one of the reasons that we have the sort of mental health problems in this country that we do. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #240 March 26, 2020 Hypochondriasis, the recursive mental health dIsorder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #241 March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Coreece said: How many is enough? Enough for what? How many suicides is acceptable? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #242 March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, billvon said: Quote Depression caused by a chemical imbalance would typically require lab tests and a doctor's prescription. Depression caused by life's little miseries is normal and is typically resolved without seeking medical attention. No, depression is not "normal." The deplorable attitude that (for example) losing your family to illness, and then entering a depression, is normal and can be resolved by simply getting over "life's little miseries" leads to a lot of serious problems (including suicide.) There is a difference between clinical depression and periods of depression caused by loss. If you don't feel a bit depressed after losing a loved one, then you're probably a deplorable in need of medical attention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #243 March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: I'm curious how the "Coronavirus Hoax" is working out for the Patriots that are in control. Ron, any insight? Patriots are in control. As for the rest of you people trying opine regarding Christian faith, psychiatric medicine, clinical depression, dysthmia, or just plain saddness you are all over the place in subject matter. Coreece is being very patient and polite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #244 March 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: Patriots are in control. As for the rest of you people trying opine regarding Christian faith, psychiatric medicine, clinical depression, dysthmia, or just plain saddness you are all over the place in subject matter. Coreece is being very patient and polite. All the rest aside - this is a Q thread - Is this what they meant by Unstoppable? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #245 March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: All the rest aside - this is a Q thread - Is this what they meant by Unstoppable? I truly do not know what you are talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #246 March 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: I truly do not know what you are talking about. Trump is the lead Q, is he not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #247 March 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Trump is the lead Q, is he not? It is my understanding that Q is a separate team that works in compliment with POTUS. If President Trump comments on a Q drop it is believed that he signs it Q+. I have not seen that in quite some time. It is my understanding this meme refers to "the Storm" and "the Great Awakening." It has nothing to do with Covid-19. I have not seen a Q drop relating to Covid-19. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #248 March 26, 2020 5 hours ago, RonD1120 said: It is my understanding that Q is a separate team that works in compliment with POTUS. If President Trump comments on a Q drop it is believed that he signs it Q+. I have not seen that in quite some time. It is my understanding this meme refers to "the Storm" and "the Great Awakening." It has nothing to do with Covid-19. I have not seen a Q drop relating to Covid-19. This is a Covid-19 related post from Q. SC would not allow the Q post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #249 March 26, 2020 42 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: SC would not allow the Q post. Huh? Is DZ.com not allowing it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,429 #250 March 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Huh? Is DZ.com not allowing it? Hi Joe, Looks like Ron crossed a line. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites