nigel99 566 #776 July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, normiss said: 1% bikers, the full outlaw bikers, refer to their clubhouses and meetings as church. They, like any atheist I've ever known, never use the description as preaching. It’s funny, I’m doing some group psychology stuff. There are two Christians who think nothing of stating their beliefs and yet there are at least two of us, who hold back on what we “really” think, so that we don’t offend them. It’s unbelievable that atheists might have empathy... In all seriousness I will stir the pot here, but my fruit loop family are totally cut out of my life. Let them believe what they want, I don’t need to hear it. As far as I’m concerned believe what you like 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #777 July 16, 2020 In the current age of televangelists with their $50 million dollar Gulfstreams. Of evangelicals worshiping at the alter of trump. We now have the subset of believers who follow Q. All equally dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #778 July 16, 2020 It's just another symptom of a nation on a downward spiral, where ignorance is valued as much as expertise, where uninformed belief is valued more than proven fact. . . George F. Will nailed it in his column:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-what-national-decline-looks-like/2020/07/14/ef499fd4-c5f0-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #779 July 16, 2020 15 hours ago, billvon said: I find that religious types are far more likely to slap you in the face, go to confession, and then tout how morally righteous they are - not like those atheist hypocrites! Nope. Its been my personal experience that the atheists are equally, if not more prone to slapping. In their case, it was less rhetorical than the religious. The religious try to more with withholding, banning, and exclusion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,432 #780 July 16, 2020 5 hours ago, kallend said: It's just another symptom of a nation on a downward spiral, where ignorance is valued as much as expertise, where uninformed belief is valued more than proven fact. . . George F. Will nailed it in his column:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-what-national-decline-looks-like/2020/07/14/ef499fd4-c5f0-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html Hi folks, For those of you who cannot read the link, here is what he wrote: GEORGE WILL: This is what national decline looks like WASHINGTON — Because of his incontinent use of it, the rhetorical mustard that the president slathers on every subject has lost its tang. The entertainer has become a bore, and foretelling his defeat no longer involves peering into a distant future: Early voting begins in two states (South Dakota and Minnesota) 61 days from Sunday, which is 107 days before Election Day. Never has a U.S. election come at such a moment of national mortification. In April 1970, President Richard Nixon told a national television audience that futility in Vietnam would make the United States appear to the world to be “a pitiful, helpless giant.” Half a century later, America, for the first time in its history, is pitied. Not even during the Civil War, when the country was blood-soaked by a conflict involving enormous issues, was it viewed with disdainful condescension as it now is, and not without reason: Last Sunday, Germany (population 80.2 million) had 159 new cases of COVID-19; Florida (population 21.5 million) had 15,300. Under the most frivolous person ever to hold any great nation’s highest office, this nation is in a downward spiral. This spiral has not reached its nadir, but at least it has reached a point where worse is helpful, and worse can be confidently expected. The nation’s floundering government is now administered by a gangster regime. It is helpful to have this made obvious as voters contemplate renewing the regime’s lease on the executive branch. Roger Stone adopted the argot of B-grade mobster movies when he said he would not “roll on” Donald Trump. By commuting Stone’s sentence, Stone’s beneficiary played his part in this down-market drama, showing gratitude for Stone’s version of omerta (the Mafia code of silence), which involved lots of speaking, but much lying. Because the pandemic prevents both presidential candidates from bouncing around the continent like popcorn in a skillet, the electorate can concentrate on other things, including Trump’s selection of friends such as Stone and Paul Manafort, dregs from the bottom of the Republican barrel. “Longing on a large scale is what makes history,” wrote Don DeLillo in his sprawling 1997 novel “Underworld” about America in the second half of the 20th century. Today, there is a vast longing for respite from the 21st century, which — before the pandemic, two inconclusive wars, and the Great Recession — began with a presidential election that turned on 537 Florida votes and was not decided until a Dec. 12 Supreme Court decision. Given the president’s reckless lying and the supine nature of most Republican officeholders, it is imperative that the Nov. 3 result be obvious that evening. This year, the pandemic will be an accelerant of pre-existing trends: There will be a surge of early and mail voting. So, an unambiguous decision by midnight Eastern time Nov. 3 will require (in addition to state requirements that mailed ballots be postmarked, say, no later than Oct. 31) a popular vote tsunami so large against the president that there will be a continentwide guffaw when he makes charges, as surely he will, akin to those he made in 2016. Then he said he lost the popular vote by 2.9 million because “millions” of undocumented immigrants voted against him. Making a pre-emptive strike against civic confidence, Trump has announced that the 2020 election will be the “most corrupt” in U.S. history. The 2020 presidential selection process began with Iowa’s shambolic Democratic caucuses, a result not of corruption but incompetence, an abundant commodity nowadays. It is scandalous that in many places casting a ballot requires hours of standing in line. Larry Diamond of the conservative-leaning Hoover Institution at Stanford discerns another scandal: “The hard truth is that there has been a rising tide of voter suppression in recent U.S. elections. These actions — such as over-eager purging of electoral registers and reducing early voting — have the appearance of enforcing abstract principles of electoral integrity but the clear effect (and apparent intent) of disproportionately disenfranchising racial minorities. One example was the decision of Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State (now governor) Brian Kemp to suspend 53,000 predominantly African American voter registration applications in 2018 because the names did not produce an ‘exact match’ with other records.” This nation built the Empire State Building, groundbreaking to official opening, in 410 days during the Depression, and the Pentagon in 16 months during wartime. Today’s less serious nation is unable to competently combat a pandemic, or even reliably conduct elections. This is what national decline looks like. George F. Will received the Pulitzer Prize for commentary in 1977. His email address is georgewill@washpost.com. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #781 July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, For those of you who cannot read the link, here is what he wrote: Jerry Baumchen thx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #782 July 16, 2020 54 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: thx 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #783 July 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Coreece said: HA - and it goes well with the article. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #784 July 21, 2020 Think, "The storm is coming." https://www.oann.com/white-house-chief-of-staff-says-he-expects-criminal-indictments-to-result-from-durham-probe/ WWG1WGA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #785 July 21, 2020 That's funny as all hell. There have been a number of investigations that showed the exact opposite of what that fool is claiming. But, after all, it's OANN. Alt-Right propaganda, straight from Putin's machine. 8645110320 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #786 July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Think, "The storm is coming." https://www.oann.com/white-house-chief-of-staff-says-he-expects-criminal-indictments-to-result-from-durham-probe/ WWG1WGA Yeah sure. Right after Hilary goes to the slammer. Don't turn blue holding your breath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 848 #787 July 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Yeah sure. Right after Hilary goes to the slammer. Don't turn blue holding your breath. But...Benghazi! The Clinton murders! HER EMAILS!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,066 #788 July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Think, "The storm is coming." I think Qanon sort of blew their wad three years ago when they reported that Hillary Clinton's passport had been revoked and there were orders issued for her arrest and the arrest of dozens of "deep state" agents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 848 #789 July 21, 2020 58 minutes ago, billvon said: I think Qanon sort of blew their wad three years ago when they reported that Hillary Clinton's passport had been revoked and there were orders issued for her arrest and the arrest of dozens of "deep state" agents. That's still gonna happen! Obama too!!! Deep state SHTF Q stuff! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #790 July 22, 2020 NYT: Twitter Takedown Targets QAnon Accounts https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/technology/twitter-bans-qanon-accounts.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 566 #791 July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, ryoder said: NYT: Twitter Takedown Targets QAnon Accounts https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/technology/twitter-bans-qanon-accounts.html The sad thing is that rather than making people like Ron question Q etc, they will simply attribute it to Antifa or the deep state attacking free speech and double down on their beliefs 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #792 July 22, 2020 7 hours ago, nigel99 said: The sad thing is that rather than making people like Ron question Q etc, they will simply attribute it to Antifa or the deep state attacking free speech and double down on their beliefs Copy that What do they fear? WWG1WGA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #793 July 22, 2020 1 minute ago, RonD1120 said: Copy that What do they fear? WWG1WGA We have nothing to fear, but fear itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #794 July 22, 2020 54 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: Copy that What do they fear? WWG1WGA I am pretty sure what they fear is that gullible, uneducated morons will actually believe the garbage that the espouse and attempt to follow through with the stupidity they propose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #795 July 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, okalb said: I am pretty sure what they fear is that gullible, uneducated morons will actually believe the garbage that the espouse and attempt to follow through with the stupidity they propose. Q is mostly an online social support group for people who are powerless but want to believe they are insiders. It is a way for them to mitigate their fear. I have no fear of Q or it's believers. I only have pity for fools. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #796 July 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Q is mostly an online social support group for people who are powerless but want to believe they are insiders. It is a way for them to mitigate their fear. I have no fear of Q or it's believers. I only have pity for fools. Q is mostly an online social support group for people who are powerless but want to believe that they can reclaim power. That they are the few who are the tip of the spear for disenfranchised white conservative Christians. They are a modern Crusader who see infidels where others don't. So they arm themselves, operate sub-rosa and wait for the day when they can shield their group. Be the hero's who prepared while the ignorant infidel masses didn't. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #797 July 22, 2020 11 hours ago, ryoder said: NYT: Twitter Takedown Targets QAnon Accounts https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/technology/twitter-bans-qanon-accounts.html More: Twitter is taking aim at QAnon, the elaborate conspiracy theory whose followers are among Trump’s most extreme supporters. The social media company has banned over 7,000 accounts associated with the movement in recent weeks. Yesterday Twitter announced that it would stop recommending accounts and content related to QAnon, and would limit the reach of such content on its trending search pages. According to the beliefs of QAnon followers, Trump is the hero in a plot to overthrow the so-called deep state, a cabal of intelligence officials, politicians and media elites. QAnon followers have been involved in armed standoffs, kidnappings and killings. The conspiracy theory was designated as a domestic terrorism threat by the F.B.I. last year. Many of the accounts that Twitter suspended had been involved in coordinated harassment campaigns, the company said. The movement has begun to seep into the Republican Party mainstream, and a number of congressional candidates this year have openly embraced it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,531 #798 July 22, 2020 Oliver Stone should make the QAnon movie... Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #799 July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Copy that What do they fear? WWG1WGA Well, how about morons who are stupid enough to actually believe the "Q" garbage? And then act on that stupidity and, oh, let's say, go shoot up a pizza place. Because "Q" said there were child sex slaves in the basement... Except the building never had a basement. 8645110320 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 848 #800 July 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Well, how about morons who are stupid enough to actually believe the "Q" garbage? And then act on that stupidity and, oh, let's say, go shoot up a pizza place. Because "Q" said there were child sex slaves in the basement... Except the building never had a basement. 8645110320 They totally misunderstood the "Q drop" regarding pizza gate. They didn't even get the right city. It was supposed to be 9 East 71st Street, NYC. That's where the child sex slaves were. Also a couple of places in Florida, and a private island. Their secret decoder rings were set wrong for the decoding. I'm sure Trump, Dersh, and the Prince can explain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites