brenthutch 444 #1 Posted February 6, 2020 How does Mitt go from Hitler personified to Saint Mitt in eight short years, in the eyes of Democrats? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #2 February 6, 2020 Remember what Churchill said about the USSR. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #3 February 6, 2020 32 minutes ago, brenthutch said: How does Mitt go from Hitler personified to Saint Mitt in eight short years, in the eyes of Democrats? He's not Saint Mitt in my eyes just because you say so. I'm in subsidized Happy Valley with his vote but he's still a self serving douchebag. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #4 February 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: I'm in subsidized Happy Valley Oh, Joe! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #5 February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, gowlerk said: Oh, Joe! Was that my inside voice? So sorry. I'll try therapy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #6 February 6, 2020 Just now, JoeWeber said: Was that my inside voice? So sorry. I'll try therapy. I'm still laughing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #7 February 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, brenthutch said: How does Mitt go from Hitler personified to Saint Mitt in eight short years, in the eyes of Democrats? At the very least he has a pair to actually defy Dictator Trump. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #8 February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, normiss said: At the very least he has a pair to actually defy Dictator Trump. He is safe electorally speaking. Or he would be just going along like the rest of them. Which does say something good about Utah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #9 February 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: How does Mitt go from Hitler personified to Saint Mitt in eight short years, in the eyes of Democrats? Who's calling him Saint Mitt or are you making that up? And when did we call him Hitler personified or are you... Ahhh, fuck it, I know the answer to both of these... Christ, man, your partisan shit is weak. But I'll answer your question because you asked it and you didn't really want an answer. (And because you didn't really want an answer, I want to answer it.) First some context, I'm not a Democrat - I'm not affiliated - but he was the governor of my state for a while. I voted for him for Governor, he was way better than his Republican predecessor, Jane Swift, and more or less better than his Democratic challenger, Shannon O'Brien. Anyway, he did a OK job. He cut taxes state-wide, but a lot of that led to shifting the burden to the towns and cities, so a lot of them had to raise taxes. Is that good or bad? I dunno. Most people here don't know either. He came up with the universal health care that my state now has. It isn't perfect, but it's better than having a bunch of uninsured folks clogging up the emergency room (which is the most expensive version of care you can get). I'd rather be in that system than be poor an uninsured in something like Alabama. Of course, once that plan - originally from Bain Capital - got adopted by Obama, the Republican party couldn't have it... Which was weird because they proposed it... But that's another story. Anyway, I think he's mostly looked at as a B+ or maybe A- governor. In terms of running for Presidency, I don't think he ever had a chance given demographics, but whatever. I voted for him in my state's primary. Most people from my state basically shrugged their shoulders, though, when it didn't work out. So... I dunno. Flash forward to today. Clearly the guy had something on his conscience that made him think he ought to vote the way he did, instead of being a robot and voting the way he was told. Regardless of his position, I'd be OK with that, since I'm really OK with independent thought. That might bother you, though, since I get the vibe that you are one of those people who root for politics like they do sports teams, and without a whole lot of thought. Edited February 6, 2020 by Skwrl 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #10 February 6, 2020 The Saint Mitt came from a sign I saw at a protest today, at the gates of the university. The Hitler comment was admittingly a bit hyperbolic, but it capsulized the feeling of the Dems at the time. With regard to the robots, they were just voting they way their constituents told them to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #11 February 6, 2020 (edited) Really? Even Fox News doesn’t agree with you. Fox News... Granted, that was for witnesses, not impeachment, but we’ll never know what the witnesses would have said, would we? I’m mean, except for John Bolton’s book. Makes you wonder how many Republicans might be actually turned off by Trump’s behavior and not actively want to support him. I know a few Trumpers that have definitely lost their excitement for him. Of course, they don’t want to *lose*, so they are backed into a corner where they have to come up with more and more sad ways to defend his absurd antics. Or they just stop talking about it. Edited February 6, 2020 by Skwrl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #12 February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: The Saint Mitt came from a sign I saw at a protest today, at the gates of the university. No one can fault your desire to get good information. 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: The Hitler comment was admittingly a bit hyperbolic, but it capsulized the feeling of the Dems at the time. First half true, second half lame projection. 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: With regard to the robots, they were just voting they way their constituents told them to. When in doubt, make shit up. You're not having a great week, gotta say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #13 February 6, 2020 He's already campaigning for 2024 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #14 February 6, 2020 12 hours ago, brenthutch said: How does Mitt go from Hitler personified to Saint Mitt in eight short years, in the eyes of Democrats? He wasn't Hitler, he was just a lame candidate running against an incumbent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #15 February 6, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, DJL said: He wasn't Hitler, he was just a lame candidate running against an incumbent. I bet you wish we had him in office now. Edit: BUT - the emotional statement and the devotion he has to his religion could have its own severe drawbacks. Edited February 6, 2020 by turtlespeed I thought better - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #16 February 6, 2020 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mitt-romneys-dog-incident_n_1187114?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAZwhgs35zNoo9iDe8J_6RJxeKDioCrIdEiV8C6hmMwjjCZFDczIYdtMtVGZwD5yRL3O8bsbdn0ZTQCCdsbrdqi-zs9UzVF63aWBPkLRqftHcuBCS7iWvpMdDfVJjeFx94eU8o3Bv2eyIyGDBZK3X7ISRRg-KaW2qk1zUoyGaYOp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #17 February 6, 2020 12 hours ago, normiss said: At the very least he has a pair to actually defy Dictator Trump. Please. That was a case of needing to get some attention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #18 February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, airdvr said: Please. That was a case of needing to get some attention. Or, you know, doing his job. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faicon9493 141 #19 February 6, 2020 16 hours ago, brenthutch said: How does Mitt go from Hitler personified to Saint Mitt in eight short years, in the eyes of Democrats? A broken watch is right twice a day. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #20 February 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Faicon9493 said: A broken watch is right twice a day. Not any more, for most watches made today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
