covid-19

[piisfish 140]

14 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

 

Meanwhile, Boris Johnson is asking Rolls Royce and other automakers to switch over to producing ventilators. I kid you not. Ventilator makers and auto makers are both calling the request "unrealistic".

well this is a smart idea. For once. using cross competence of the industry for the production of necessary (and vital) goods. It has worked in wartime, it could work (or would be worth trying) in this war against this virus. This and total lockdown for non VITAL activity.

[turtlespeed 220]

13 minutes ago, piisfish said:

well this is a smart idea. For once. using cross competence of the industry for the production of necessary (and vital) goods. It has worked in wartime, it could work (or would be worth trying) in this war against this virus. This and total lockdown for non VITAL activity.

At least he's trying - I haven't heard Trump offer anything but lip service.  Sound bites and confidence reassurance, nothing of substance. (Not really expecting different - but it would be nice)

[normiss 800]

Results from one model indicate likely outcomes depending on degree of mitigation we manage to implement in the U.S.:

“Weak mitigation (what's happening now): Peak in early June. ~100M infections, 1.76M casualties.

“Moderate mitigation (widespread social distancing, business closures, restricted travel): Peak in mid to late June. ~100M infections. 1.27M casualties.

“Strong mitigation (complete societal shutdown, Wuhan style): Peak December. ~35M infections. 171,000 casualties.

Source: https://neherlab.org/covid19/

“Right now, we are at weak mitigation. The sooner we move to moderate mitigation, the better - every day counts. Most non-authoritarian governments cannot implement strong mitigation..”

[SkyDekker 1,465]

19 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

At least he's trying - I haven't heard Trump offer anything but lip service.  Sound bites and confidence reassurance, nothing of substance. (Not really expecting different - but it would be nice)

He just hasn't figured out how his family can make money off it.

[normiss 800]

5 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

He just hasn't figured out how his family can make money off it.

He tried bribing a German company for the vaccine. Germany said NEIN!

[brenthutch 444]

9 hours ago, kallend said:

Apparently testing NBA players used up 20% of the coronavirus test kits in the entire state of Utah.

One rule for the rich.....

Mabey one rule for those who travel abroad, go on cruises, interact with a lot of people who interact with a lot of other people, etc. etc. IOW, a test for those at risk.  NBA stars, politicians, movie stars.  A classic case of influencea.... while the poor folks in West Virginia have to suffer through no tests.....oh, and BTW no coronavirus     

[timski 80]

On 3/14/2020 at 7:51 AM, wmw999 said:

Okra work well; I can assure you that pickled black radishes are awful. And I like pretty much everything, except for pickled black radishes.

Wendy P.

LOL, we grew spanish black radish last year, ummm yeah, REAL earthy! I'll stick with the plain jane red/white kind. 

[timski 80]

On 3/14/2020 at 1:02 PM, airdvr said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic

Any of this sound familiar?  This was the last time this type of thing got blown out of proportion.

Nope, in my 50 years I've never seen ANYTHING like this... Not even close.

[Phil1111 1,149]

33 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

.... while the poor folks in West Virginia have to suffer through no tests.....oh, and BTW no coronavirus     

WVU chief health officer on COVID-19: It's here. We just can't detect it yet

"Dr. Clay Marsh, vice president and executive dean for health sciences at West Virginia University, said it is likely people in West Virginia already have the virus. ..

In West Virginia, the state Department of Health and Human Resources has said West Virginia became capable of testing in a state lab only about a week ago, and reported on its website Friday that private labs are now capable of testing. Just 31 tests had been performed in West Virginia as of Saturday.

Because of that lack of testing, Marsh noted that people are having to choose to self-quarantine just because they've internationally traveled, for instance. South Korea, meanwhile, arranged for drive-through testing.

"During the time we're not looking, the virus is still expanding and it's connecting to other people," Marsh said. "We just don't know it because we can't detect it yet."

January 17, 2020 The CDC dispatches more than 100 staffers to three US airports to screen passengers arriving from Wuhan, a highly unusual step only taken during major health crises. So 51 days after screening in the US began the State of W. Virginia received its first test kit.

"A week ago, the Trump administration said that 1 million kits would be available. But as of Monday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that just 75,000 test kits were available at 73 state and local health departments across 50 states....

Edited March 17, 2020 by Phil1111

[brenthutch 444]

Sounds like global warming.  It is here, it is devastating, it is worse than we thought, but we just cant detect it yet.

[billvon 2,991]

1 hour ago, normiss said:

He tried bribing a German company for the vaccine. Germany said NEIN!

And Trump said "Five, but that's my final offer."

 

[gowlerk 2,193]

6 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Sounds like global warming.  It is here, it is devastating, it is worse than we thought, but we just cant detect it yet.

Fer Christ's sake. Save it for the other thread.

Edited March 17, 2020 by gowlerk

[timski 80]

On 3/15/2020 at 4:02 PM, gowlerk said:

Yup, I agree. Trump rallies should continue.

I'll give my last two nickles for this cause! 

[billvon 2,991]

14 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Sounds like global warming.  It is here, it is devastating, it is worse than we thought, but we just cant detect it yet.

And if Trump has his way, we never will!

[gowlerk 2,193]

Now this thing is truly global. Greenland has a case.

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/greenland-confirms-first-case-of-coronavirus

Is Antarctica next?

Edited March 17, 2020 by gowlerk

[mistercwood 287]

26 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Sounds like global warming.  It is here, it is devastating, it is worse than we thought, but we just cant detect it yet.

I take it back, this is a MUCH more laughable take. 

[yoink 321]

2 hours ago, normiss said:

Results from one model indicate likely outcomes depending on degree of mitigation we manage to implement in the U.S.:

“Weak mitigation (what's happening now): Peak in early June. ~100M infections, 1.76M casualties.

“Moderate mitigation (widespread social distancing, business closures, restricted travel): Peak in mid to late June. ~100M infections. 1.27M casualties.

“Strong mitigation (complete societal shutdown, Wuhan style): Peak December. ~35M infections. 171,000 casualties.

Source: https://neherlab.org/covid19/

“Right now, we are at weak mitigation. The sooner we move to moderate mitigation, the better - every day counts. Most non-authoritarian governments cannot implement strong mitigation..”

Wow. 

[Phil1111 1,149]

UK coronavirus crisis 'to last until spring 2021 and could see 7.9m hospitalised'

If the US had the same standards of health care, which it doesn't. The US would have over 40 million hospitalizations by next spring.

From a Public Health England document.

[yoink 321]

Somebody’s stolen most of the oranges off the tree in my front yard. 

[ryoder 1,590]

Check out what Alibaba's Jack Ma is doing:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/africa/jack-ma-donate-masks-coronavirus-africa/index.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51904379

[ryoder 1,590]

I thought I knew how low patent trolls could go, but I was wrong:

So, let's summarize: The firm that basically created the mess that is WeWork by dumping billions of dollars into the company, also owns a patent troll that bought up the patents from the sham medical testing firm Theranos, and is now using those patents to sue one of the few diagnostics companies that is actually making a Covid-19 test... in the middle of a pandemic. And, demanding the use of those tests be blocked:

Source: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200316/14584244111/softbank-owned-patent-troll-using-monkey-selfie-law-firm-sues-to-block-covid-19-testing-using-theranos-patents.shtml

[yoink 321]

Hooray. Extortion.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Sounds like global warming.  It is here, it is devastating, it is worse than we thought, but we just cant detect it yet.

Brent Hutchings, the one trick pony. 

[SivaGanesha 2]

4 hours ago, normiss said:

Results from one model indicate likely outcomes depending on degree of mitigation we manage to implement in the U.S.:

“Weak mitigation (what's happening now): Peak in early June. ~100M infections, 1.76M casualties.

“Moderate mitigation (widespread social distancing, business closures, restricted travel): Peak in mid to late June. ~100M infections. 1.27M casualties.

“Strong mitigation (complete societal shutdown, Wuhan style): Peak December. ~35M infections. 171,000 casualties.

Source: https://neherlab.org/covid19/

“Right now, we are at weak mitigation. The sooner we move to moderate mitigation, the better - every day counts. Most non-authoritarian governments cannot implement strong mitigation..”

 

Hmmm...something doesn't seem right about these numbers. We are definitely at at least moderate mitigation here in the US at this point. Most non-essential businesses are closing where I live and travel is definitely severely restricted. These numbers suggest there would be no reduction at all in numbers of infections--only the numbers of casualties--by going from weak to moderate mitigation. That doesn't make sense to me, Additionally, in China/Wuhan, the rate of new infections peaked around mid-February, so strong mitigation seems to result in a peak less than a month after the number of cases was at the current US level.

Edited March 17, 2020 by SivaGanesha

[airdvr 210]

Anyone able to tell me what happens when you fly back to the US from the list of countries that are deemed a threat.  I know there are 13 airports you must use but then what?