covid-19

[Coreece 190]

27 minutes ago, ryoder said:

In Iceland people can signup online.

So can people in the U.S. 

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/drive-thru-coronavirus-testing-near-me/

 

Is there one in your area?  Have you gone yet?

Edited April 16, 2020 by Coreece

[headoverheels 333]

14 minutes ago, Coreece said:

So can people in the U.S. 

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/drive-thru-coronavirus-testing-near-me/

 

Is there one in your area?  Have you gone yet?

You cannot get tested if you are not showing symptoms. Half of the infected people in Iceland were not.

 

[jakee 1,531]

1 hour ago, Coreece said:

So we'd all be expected to rush out of our homes to be tested and pack the nearest clinic just so we can have better numbers than Iceland?

Again, false dichotomy. There are many examples out there from other countries of how to test large numbers of people without just packing them into local clinics. Come on dude, didn't you just say this wasn't a pissing contest? Stop pissing.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

3 hours ago, gowlerk said:

From Wiki on Iceland demographics:

99% of the nation's inhabitants live in urban areas (localities with populations greater than 200) and 60% live in the Capital Region.

 

Having a closely centred population as well as strong central government would make it the task far easier than in the USA. Even the largest US cities do not contain 10% of the people.

More than 75% of the US population lives on approx 3% of the US land area. So, by your reasoning the US should indeed be doing much better.

[billvon 3,029]

1 hour ago, Coreece said:

So we'd all be expected to rush out of our homes to be tested and pack the nearest clinic just so we can have better numbers than Iceland?

Don't we have an app for this shit yet?

No.  There's drive through testing here but it's impossible to get.
An app for an assay?  I would hope that you are joking, but fear you are not,

[ryoder 1,590]

47 minutes ago, Coreece said:

So can people in the U.S. 

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/drive-thru-coronavirus-testing-near-me/

 

Is there one in your area?  Have you gone yet?

Here are the criteria to get tested in CO:

https://covid19.colorado.gov/testing

[skymiles 3]

The W.H.O. did sound the alarm early and often about the coming pandemic.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/who-now-trumps-scapegoat-warned-about-coronavirus-early-and-often/ar-BB12IpJ1?li=BBnb7Kz

Should they have sounded the alarm louder?

[Coreece 190]

25 minutes ago, billvon said:

1 hour ago, Coreece said:

Don't we have an app for this shit yet?

An app for an assay?  I would hope that you are joking, but fear you are not

Yes Bill it was a joke.

However,  I mentioned up thread that it would be nice to get tests out for antibodies, and apparently they ARE working on an app for that.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/home-fingerprick-blood-test-may-help-detect-your-exposure-coronavirus-n1176086

Edited April 16, 2020 by Coreece

[gowlerk 2,217]

3 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

More than 75% of the US population lives on approx 3% of the US land area. So, by your reasoning the US should indeed be doing much better.

My reasoning includes a strong central government. And even if the figures you are using can be verified, which I am having a hard time doing, those high population areas are well spread out. 3% of the continental US is still 111,188 sq miles. The whole of Iceland is only 40,000 sq miles. The scale of the problem does not compare.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

15 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

My reasoning includes a strong central government. And even if the figures you are using can be verified, which I am having a hard time doing, those high population areas are well spread out. 3% of the continental US is still 111,188 sq miles. The whole of Iceland is only 40,000 sq miles. The scale of the problem does not compare.

Straight from Wiki. once you add scale of budgets it most certainly would imply the US should be doing much better.

[turtlespeed 221]

The US should be doing much better. 
Im hoping we, and the rest of the world, learns more efficiency.  
 

I have MUCH more faith that the entire rest of the world will do more of it’s part than China doing much of anything regarding the wet markets.  

[JoeWeber 2,762]

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

The US should be doing much better. 
Im hoping we, and the rest of the world, learns more efficiency.  
 

I have MUCH more faith that the entire rest of the world will do more of it’s part than China doing much of anything regarding the wet markets.  

Turtle-san, have you been to China? Anywhere in Asia? Have you been to a few wet markets? Have you engaged with Asians on their home turf? Do you have any capability in any Asian language? What gives you such penetrating insight?

[billvon 3,029]

2 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said:

The Bad:  If small business, which employs close to half the work force in America, does NOT recover quickly, we could be headed for something close to another Great Depression. 

 

I spoke to a skydiver today who runs a small business.  She went to apply for one of the relief bill business loans, and they are  . . . all gone.  Apparently to large corporations, per her sources.

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,385]

Hi folks,

From my daughter:  

‘The curve is flattening; we can start lifting restrictions now’ = ‘The parachute has slowed our rate of descent; we can take it off now.’

Jerry Baumchen

[nigel99 525]

1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

From my daughter:  

‘The curve is flattening; we can start lifting restrictions now’ = ‘The parachute has slowed our rate of descent; we can take it off now.’

Jerry Baumchen

Jerry,

I am slowly changing my views. I was supportive of the restrictions put in place, bear in mind Australia is known for being a nanny state. I am in West Australia and my wife is not able to return from the Eastern States for possibly 6 months as we have closed our border with the world including the rest of Australia. 

We are facing the worst recession since 1930, have got most hospitals with many empty beds, to the point that they are asking hospital staff to not come into work. My local hospital has had 3 or 4 of the total of 7 deaths in the state. Normally wait times for that hospital are 90mins plus (there is an app that gives you live waiting times), it is now consistently at 0 mins.

My local GP we used to have to wait at least a week, now I can get an appointment the next day, frequently. I know this because my elderly father is staying with me from the UK and we see the Dr at least once a week. 

I don’t know about the rest of the world, but I feel locally we could ease up. I have seen that schools might be returning soon, they had planned for the next term to be homeschooled. I do realise that unlike the northern hemisphere we are entering flu season and winter and this is part of the modelling.

[headoverheels 333]

So the sailors on the Roosevelt were tested.  Of the ones testing positive, 60% were showing no symptoms.

[JoeWeber 2,762]

2 hours ago, headoverheels said:

So the sailors on the Roosevelt were tested.  Of the ones testing positive, 60% were showing no symptoms.

I think that's in line with seasonal flu numbers. Not sure why this is a mystery.

[JoeWeber 2,762]

8 hours ago, billvon said:

I spoke to a skydiver today who runs a small business.  She went to apply for one of the relief bill business loans, and they are  . . . all gone.  Apparently to large corporations, per her sources.

 

Maybe not disproportionally to big business, but to favorite sons and daughters so it would seem.  Interestingly, the North East US outlier is Maine.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-sba-paycheck-protection-program/

[kallend 2,057]

Your Tax Dollars at Work

The White House calls Project Air Bridge, which Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner helped set up, a bold public-private partnership to bring masks and other medical equipment to the U.S. to fight the coronavirus outbreak. But what the Trump administration refuses to talk about is how it’s sending tens of millions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies to the nation’s largest medical-supply companies, with little public accounting.

Over the last three weeks, taxpayers have paid to fly the companies’ supplies to the U.S. from Asia on government-chartered cargo flights, while the firms have been free to sell the material to hospitals, clinics and others at prices they choose. That has saved the companies more than $25 million in shipping costs, savings they are not required to pass on to the medical systems, state governments and others who buy their products. The supply companies’ profits topped $2 billion last year, financial statements show.

[normiss 814]

SBA PPP unequal distribution

 

Ruth's Chris steaks suck more now because of greed

[kallend 2,057]

Yesterday, less than 2 months from the first US fatality, the CV-19 death toll in the USA passed 2/3 of the total number of US service deaths during the entire Vietnam War.

[ryoder 1,590]

NYT: An Overlooked, Possibly Fatal Coronavirus Crisis: A Dire Need for Kidney Dialysis

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/health/kidney-dialysis-coronavirus.html

Ventilators aren’t the only machines in intensive care units that are in short supply. Doctors have been confronting an unexpected rise in patients with failing kidneys.

You know, just like the flu.

[Phil1111 1,149]

10 hours ago, kallend said:

Yesterday, less than 2 months from the first US fatality, the CV-19 death toll in the USA passed 2/3 of the total number of US service deaths during the entire Vietnam War.

The commander in chief had bone spurs in that war and in this war.  Two wars and AWOL in both.

[kallend 2,057]

Social distancing.

 

[wmw999 2,477]

2 hours ago, ryoder said:

NYT: An Overlooked, Possibly Fatal Coronavirus Crisis: A Dire Need for Kidney Dialysis

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/health/kidney-dialysis-coronavirus.html

Ventilators aren’t the only machines in intensive care units that are in short supply. Doctors have been confronting an unexpected rise in patients with failing kidneys.

You know, just like the flu.

I have a relative who works as a patient nurse coordinator for a kidney transplant program. Dialysis is hellish.

Wendy P.