covid-19

[billvon 3,068]

8 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Who had Mark Meadows as next in the Whitehouse Virus Lottery?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-07/trump-s-chief-of-staff-mark-meadows-infected-by-coronavirus

Inconceivable!

[tonyhays 86]

2 hours ago, billvon said:

Inconceivable!

https://youtu.be/kPPgFa0MfEU

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

10 hours ago, ryoder said:

Who had Mark Meadows as next in the Whitehouse Virus Lottery?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-07/trump-s-chief-of-staff-mark-meadows-infected-by-coronavirus

Apparently it was supposed to be a secret, and he's been appearing in public without a mask.

'Cuz it's all a hoax.

[kallend 2,106]

10 hours ago, ryoder said:

Who had Mark Meadows as next in the Whitehouse Virus Lottery?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-07/trump-s-chief-of-staff-mark-meadows-infected-by-coronavirus

What? 

 

Didn't they say we wouldn't hear any more about it after November 4th?

[ryoder 1,590]

Reports: Matt Gaetz, Michael Waltz test positive for COVID-19

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/381939-reports-matt-gaetz-michael-waltz-test-positive-for-covid-19

[lippy 918]

3 hours ago, ryoder said:

Reports: Matt Gaetz, Michael Waltz test positive for COVID-19

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/381939-reports-matt-gaetz-michael-waltz-test-positive-for-covid-19

I wonder if he still thinks this was funny

[Phil1111 1,149]

2 hours ago, lippy said:

I wonder if he still thinks this was funny

Only when more GOP political representatives die will the message get through, Herman Cain,David Andahl,Peter Secchia, etc. are just not enough. 240,000 ordinary Americans not enough.

Edited November 7, 2020 by Phil1111

[ryoder 1,590]

2 hours ago, lippy said:

I wonder if he still thinks this was funny

Well, the shoes are funny!

[ScottishJohn 25]

18 hours ago, kallend said:

What? 

 

Didn't they say we wouldn't hear any more about it after November 

 

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Chief of Staff Mark Meadows says WH aiming to have 100 million doses of Coronavirus vaccine ready to go by end of October. Says goal is to make the the most vulnerable and highest risk people are vaccinated in that first group. Says up to 300 million doses would be ready in Jan.

 

 

[gowlerk 2,249]

Pfizer is reporting some very favourable preliminary results for it's vaccine this morning. The pre-opening stock market is soaring.

https://us.cnn.com/2020/11/09/health/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-effective/index.html

[ryoder 1,590]

8 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Pfizer is reporting some very favourable preliminary results for it's vaccine this morning. The pre-opening stock market is soaring.

https://us.cnn.com/2020/11/09/health/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-effective/index.html

First thing I saw on FB this morning:

"Biden Invents Vaccine Only Two Days After Election Is Called"

-- Andy Borowitz

LOL!

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 hour ago, ryoder said:

First thing I saw on FB this morning:

"Biden Invents Vaccine Only Two Days After Election Is Called"

-- Andy Borowitz

LOL!

All kidding aside. Thankfully the deep state within Pfizer waited until Biden was declared victor. Had they announced this a week prior to the election like the board wanted. trump may have spun it to victory.

[ryoder 1,590]

Annnnddddd next up on the Whitehouse Virus Lottery:

HUD Secretary Ben Carson tests positive for coronavirus

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/09/hud-secretary-ben-carson-tests-positive-for-coronavirus.html

[Westerly 61]

4 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Pfizer is reporting some very favourable preliminary results for it's vaccine this morning. The pre-opening stock market is soaring.

https://us.cnn.com/2020/11/09/health/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-effective/index.html

Just another arguing point as to why it should be released immediately. Every day they are screwing around trying to make "sure, super sure sure' that it's effective and safe is another day thousands die. Sometimes you just have to call it good enough and move forward.

[billvon 3,068]

7 minutes ago, Westerly said:

Just another arguing point as to why it should be released immediately. 

I am very glad you're not in a position of power at the FDA.  A vaccine released early could be far worse than a better tested vaccine released later.

[JoeWeber 2,821]

14 minutes ago, Westerly said:

Just another arguing point as to why it should be released immediately. Every day they are screwing around trying to make "sure, super sure sure' that it's effective and safe is another day thousands die. Sometimes you just have to call it good enough and move forward.

Exactly. The Nova comes to mind as proof positive. 

[olofscience 489]

14 minutes ago, Westerly said:

Every day they are screwing around trying to make "sure, super sure sure'

They actually use numbers rather than "sure, super sure sure".

Patience. I can't wait for it to arrive either but the numbers need to back it up.

[ryoder 1,590]

5 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Exactly. The Nova comes to mind as proof positive. 

I assume you are talking about the Glide Path Nova, and not the Chevrolet Nova.

[JoeWeber 2,821]

2 minutes ago, ryoder said:

I assume you are talking about the Glide Path Nova, and not the Chevrolet Nova.

Yup.

[billvon 3,068]

14 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Exactly. The Nova comes to mind as proof positive. 

I recall all the people who said "there's NOTHING wrong with the Nova if you are a competent canopy pilot!"  (Mainly people who had already bought them.)

[kallend 2,106]

Just to be clear, the "Pfizer" vaccine was developed by BioNTech, a company based in Mainz, Germany.

[JoeWeber 2,821]

3 hours ago, ryoder said:

Annnnddddd next up on the Whitehouse Virus Lottery:

HUD Secretary Ben Carson tests positive for coronavirus

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/09/hud-secretary-ben-carson-tests-positive-for-coronavirus.html

And Trump Senior campaign advisor David Bossie to the list. He's the asshole in charge of the baseless election lawsuit program, I think.

[Westerly 61]

2 hours ago, billvon said:

I am very glad you're not in a position of power at the FDA.  A vaccine released early could be far worse than a better tested vaccine released later.

Lots of things 'can' happen. I can tell you what WILL happen. Hundreds of thousands more people will be dead for every few months it's not released. 

And what happens when the vaccine is finally approved and the FDA says yep it's safe and effective? Then we're gonna be like crap, I guess it was safe all along. Well kind of late at that point for a lot of people who are already dead.

Edited November 9, 2020 by Westerly

[billvon 3,068]

47 minutes ago, Westerly said:

Lots of things 'can' happen. I can tell you what WILL happen. Hundreds of thousands more people will be dead for every few months it's not released. 

And I can tell you what WILL happen if a vaccine is released and it turns out to have serious side effects.  All those nutjobs will say "see?  I've been telling you all along - these vaccines are UNSAFE!  I have PROOF!"  And they will actually have it - and will be listened to.

And the next vaccine will have to go a much longer set of trials before it's released.  And when it is released, most will refuse to use it it.  "Remember last time when the FDA said it was safe?  Not injecting my kids with that.  I'll wait a year."

And millions will die.  That's worse than hundreds of thousands.

If you want to join a vaccine trial I support that 100%.  Go for it.

If you want to end the disease before then, push as hard as you can for universal masking, testing, distancing, contact tracing and improved hygiene.  Those aren't as quick and easy as a shot you get in ten seconds - but are a whole lot safer at this point.   And they are very effective.

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And what happens when the vaccine is finally approved and the FDA says yep it's safe and effective? Then we're gonna be like crap, I guess it was safe all along. Well kind of late at that point for a lot of people who are already dead.

I have a Nova that I haven't jumped for years.  Do I feel foolish when someone else jumps a Nova and says "See?  It landed FINE.  You're afraid of nothing!"  Nope.  Because I have enough experience to know that "it will probably be OK" is not sufficient evidence for me to trust my life to it.  Same with vaccines.

[billvon 3,068]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

And Trump Senior campaign advisor David Bossie to the list. He's the asshole in charge of the baseless election lawsuit program, I think.

Oh noes!  Will that slow down the filing of frivolous lawsuits?