wolfriverjoe 1,523 #4476 April 22, 2021 A friend is a nurse at a nearby, county run facility. She told me that they have had at least one employee in every department but one test positive this week. She had the opportunity to pick up extra shifts, but declined. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timski 80 #4477 April 23, 2021 Ted Nugent contracts Covid-19 after saying 'it's not a real pandemic' Karma! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #4478 April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, timski said: Ted Nugent contracts Covid-19 after saying 'it's not a real pandemic' Karma! On 4/20/2021 at 8:43 AM, ryoder said: COVID-Denier Ted Nugent Tests Positive, Highlighting Vaccine Hesitancy Among Some Members Of GOP Karma He got it twice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #4479 April 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, kallend said: He got it twice? "I see everything twice!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #4480 April 23, 2021 9 hours ago, billvon said: "I see everything twice!" At Oktoberfest levels of beer i can see everything twice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #4481 April 23, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 9:13 AM, ryoder said: Why no one should be complacent just because they are vaccinated: . . . The massive surge in India is a problem for us too: The more cases there are, the more likely it is that a random mutation will arise that is not recognized by the current vaccines. While most mutations are harmless or benign, even if 1 in a million is a problem, the place with the most cases is where it is likely to happen. Which is why it is in our best interest to supply vaccines to other countries. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #4482 April 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, kallend said: The massive surge in India is a problem for us too: The more cases there are, the more likely it is that a random mutation will arise that is not recognized by the current vaccines. While most mutations are harmless or benign, even if 1 in a million is a problem, the place with the most cases is where it is likely to happen. Which is why it is in our best interest to supply vaccines to other countries. What if they aren't Christians? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,314 #4483 April 23, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: What if they aren't Christians? Simple. We'll convert 'em first, then vaccinate 'em. Why you always got to make shit so hard, Brother? Edited April 23, 2021 by BIGUN 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #4484 April 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, BIGUN said: Simple. We'll convert 'em first, then vaccinate 'em. Why you always got to make shit so hard, Brother? I just get overly excited sometimes to where I miss the obvious. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,192 #4485 April 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: What if they aren't Christians? Then it is all in the hands of God. Edited April 23, 2021 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #4486 April 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: What if they aren't Christians? Send the vaccines developed by Ugur Sahin and Ozlem Tureci. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #4487 April 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, kallend said: Send the vaccines developed by Ugur Sahin and Ozlem Tureci. Good thinking. That'll teach 'em. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #4488 April 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, kallend said: Send the vaccines developed by Ugur Sahin and Ozlem Tureci. Yeah they may be hurting for some spending cash given their net worth of $4.6 billion US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westerly 61 #4489 April 24, 2021 14 hours ago, kallend said: Which is why it is in our best interest to supply vaccines to other countries. We cant even supply vaccines to our own country. Might I remind you half of all Americans still dont have the vaccine. I'd say we have more pressing issues at hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #4490 April 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Westerly said: We cant even supply vaccines to our own country. Might I remind you half of all Americans still dont have the vaccine. I'd say we have more pressing issues at hand. Might I remind you that a number of counties (almost all of them in "red" states) are currently declining their full quota of vaccines because of insufficient demand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #4491 April 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, kallend said: Might I remind you that a number of counties (almost all of them in "red" states) are currently declining their full quota of vaccines because of insufficient demand. This. What John is saying is a good example of where "America First" is a short-term gain at a likely long-term loss. Yes, we can protect "our" people first, but the sooner we have at least spotty vaccination in the world, the slower transmission will be, and the fewer opportunities there will be for mutation. It's kind of like the guy in the apartment complex who doesn't want to contribute to a bedbug fund, because his apartment isn't the worst. Trust me, they'll get in, or he'll spend so much more effort keeping them out because they're close that it would have been easier and cheaper to contribute to the fund in the first place. Wendy P. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #4492 April 24, 2021 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/indias-sudden-coronavirus-wave-is-not-a-far-away-problem/2021/04/23/f363bda2-a3a3-11eb-85fc-06664ff4489d_story.html Any transmission or infection anywhere is a spin of the roulette wheel for a possible new, more dangerous variant. Most such mutations are insignificant and disappear. But as the past few months have demonstrated with the variant first detected in Britain, a significant change in the genome can lead to rapid spread and more severe disease. India’s out-of-control catastrophe — by its sheer scale — is a potential pressure cooker for still more variants. The one that is already taking off, B.1.617, includes two mutations seen separately in earlier variants but never together in the same one. The mutations are in key parts of the virus genetic code forming the spike protein and the mechanism it uses to infect a human cell. This variant appears to be one factor powering the massive increase in daily new cases. It is not yet clear how well vaccines protect against it, or whether it will spread beyond India. But it is worth recalling that when the British variant first showed up in London and Kent, it was almost nonexistent in the United States; in a matter of months it has gained a major foothold. A South African variant has been less so. Can India, population 1.3 billion, be isolated? Not easily. Almost certainly, vaccines will have to be tweaked to adapt. India’s predicament is staggering. In mid-February its daily new infections were about 10,000, and it seemed to have brought the pandemic almost to a close. The health minister, Harsh Vardhan, said in March that the country had entered the “endgame.” This week, the outbreak has topped 300,000 new cases a day, and the growth shows no signs of slowing. On Thursday, India’s 332,518 new cases accounted for 37 percent of the world’s total 894,043 new cases. . . . . India has fully vaccinated only 1.4 percent of its people; 8.3 percent have been partially vaccinated. Let’s hope all of India can seize the moment and begin to reverse the course of this disaster. India is not a faraway problem. In pandemic time and distance, every place is nearby. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #4493 April 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, kallend said: ...But it is worth recalling that when the British variant first showed up in London and Kent, it was almost nonexistent in the United States; in a matter of months it has gained a major foothold. A South African variant has been less so... Well, keep in mind that the Brit variant was almost certainly here well before it was found. The testing for specific variants in the US was pretty poor at that time. It's improved some, but not a whole lot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #4494 April 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, kallend said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/indias-sudden-coronavirus-wave-is-not-a-far-away-problem/2021/04/23/f363bda2-a3a3-11eb-85fc-06664ff4489d_story.html Any transmission or infection anywhere is a spin of the roulette wheel for a possible new, more dangerous variant..... In pandemic time and distance, every place is nearby. Soon the new penta and hepta-Indian mutated variants will be attending a GOP gathering. Yes, god and FOX sure does work in mysterious ways. Perhaps the worry about electoral reforms to discourage democratic district voting will become moot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #4495 April 24, 2021 Health officials in states including West Virginia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania have said that supply is already exceeding demand, and their new challenge is combating vaccine hesitancy. While it’s difficult to determine exactly how many vials of vaccines are sitting unused across the United States, data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicates that a dozen states are administering less than three-quarters of the doses they receive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #4496 April 24, 2021 1 hour ago, kallend said: Health officials in states including West Virginia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania have said that supply is already exceeding demand, and their new challenge is combating vaccine hesitancy. While it’s difficult to determine exactly how many vials of vaccines are sitting unused across the United States, data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicates that a dozen states are administering less than three-quarters of the doses they receive. Just yesterday I had a cab driver, as he was eating a candy bar, tell me he wasn't getting the vaccine because he didn't know what they put in it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,192 #4497 April 24, 2021 1 minute ago, JoeWeber said: Just yesterday I had a cab driver, as he was eating a candy bar, tell me he wasn't getting the vaccine because he didn't know what they put in it. I just tell them they put "magic" in it. Who's afraid of magic? It's everywhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,314 #4498 April 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: Just yesterday I had a cab driver, as he was eating a candy bar, tell me he wasn't getting the vaccine because he didn't know what they put in it. Two separate instances; I'm talking with fathers with daughters the age of mine. Have you gotten the Vaccine yet? "No. Not sure I'm going to." "Why is that? "Not sure what's in it." Change the subject. Wait a bit. "Hey, my daughter's getting to that age of getting the HPV vaccine; are your daughters going to get it? "YEAH!" "Know what's in it?" Sometimes I get a kick out of that fucked-up look someone gets on their face. Edited April 24, 2021 by BIGUN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,192 #4499 April 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, BIGUN said: Two separate instances; I'm talking with fathers with daughters the age of mine. Have you gotten the Vaccine yet? "No. Not sure I'm going to." "Why is that? "Not sure what's in it." Change the subject. Wait a bit. "Hey, my daughter's getting to that age of getting the HPV vaccine; are your daughters going to get it? "YEAH!" "Know what's in it?" Sometimes I get a kick out of that fucked-up look someone gets on their face. Their sons should be getting it too BTW. But nice one there on your part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #4500 April 24, 2021 49 minutes ago, BIGUN said: Sometimes I get a kick out of that fucked-up look someone gets on their face. Maybe that's the look of "I didn't think of that -- maybe they shouldn't get it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites