lummy 4 #576 March 18, 2020 I just got one too for posting something about Amazon not taking shipments to their warehouse and posting a link to the NY post article.... Whatever.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #577 March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Phil1111 said: Trump says he knew coronavirus was a pandemic 'long before' it was declared today 03/17/20, Yet March 9th it was ""The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation, far beyond what the facts would warrant," Trump tweeted at the time." Too bad he never gave FOX and Hannity a heads up about his clairvoyance. Or the CDC and the American people. I wonder, since you are criticizing, have you ever changed your mind, or made a mistake? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #578 March 18, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: I wonder, since you are criticizing, have you ever changed your mind, or made a mistake? Yes I fell for your trolling once before. Stupid of me! Seriously I'm seldom wrong about trump and I was ripping him well before he was elected. I changed my mind about HRC and Bill Clinton. I used to think they were a pair of P.O.S. But they have noting on trump. So I was somewhat wrong about them. Edited March 18, 2020 by Phil1111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #579 March 18, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: Yes I fell for your trolling once before. Stupid of me! So, let me make sure I have this correct. You can call attention to Trumps mistakes, and when he changes his mind, and does the right thing, he gets criticized for that too. I ask a question about your ability to change your mind when a mistake is made, and you cannot answer seriously. You have to have a snaky reply. Only one conclusion truthfully comes to mind: You just want to bitch about Trump. He could be doing everything right, and you would find fault. Edited March 18, 2020 by turtlespeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #580 March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, turtlespeed said: ..... You just want to bitch about Trump. He could be doing everything right, and you would find fault. A couple years ago I started a thread about what trump was doing right. After a couple replies it died out due to lack of supporting facts. About a week ago I posted that trump was right in using low oil prices to fill up the national strategic petroleum reserve. Damnit.... I made another mistake I fell for your lure again..!... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #581 March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Phil1111 said: A couple years ago I started a thread about what trump was doing right. After a couple replies it died out due to lack of supporting facts. About a week ago I posted that trump was right in using low oil prices to fill up the national strategic petroleum reserve. Damnit.... I made another mistake I fell for your lure again..!... I didn't realize that, or notice those. My apologies. Maybe it was the snarky remark that made all the difference in my observation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #582 March 18, 2020 https://video.foxnews.com/v/6142318328001#sp=show-clips At 00:31 . . . Trump states that they will not be enforcing "Applicable" HIPPA penalties. What applicable HIPPA penalties are not being enforced? That can't be right! (read: That doesn't sound right to my uneducated ears) Why would they not enforce HIPPA? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #583 March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, lummy said: I just got one too for posting something about Amazon not taking shipments to their warehouse and posting a link to the NY post article.... Whatever.... Apparently, it is a widespread problem today: https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/17/facebook-link-spam-filter-coronavirus/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #584 March 18, 2020 What do you guys think about Telsa disregarding the shelter-in-place guidance from public health officials? https://electrek.co/2020/03/17/tesla-updates-employees-coronavirus-no-co-pilot-test-drives/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #585 March 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, brenthutch said: What do you guys think about Telsa disregarding the shelter-in-place guidance from public health officials? https://electrek.co/2020/03/17/tesla-updates-employees-coronavirus-no-co-pilot-test-drives/ Tesla stock drops after hours as county says Fremont factory is not an ‘essential business’ Elon is a little arrogant when it concerns the law. Probably a bad idea and bad PR move. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 561 #586 March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: I wonder, since you are criticizing, have you ever changed your mind, or made a mistake? As a world leader Trump is and should be judged to a different standard than you or I. As a world leader keep your mouth shut, defer to experts and then when facts are known repeat them. He was an absolute idiot spouting garbage about Democrats blowing it all out of proportion etc. Considering the scale of the problem and the protections being put in place now, are you Turtle prepared to say the dems were correct in their response and Trump was wrong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,064 #587 March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: I wonder, since you are criticizing, have you ever changed your mind, or made a mistake? I've made a lot. I admit them, learn from them and move on. Something Trump will never, ever do. Which, when we are facing a pandemic and he's made a boatload of mistakes so far, is pretty terrifying if you're an elderly man or woman wondering what's going to happen next. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #588 March 18, 2020 3 hours ago, ryoder said: So Facebook just informed me I "violated their standards on spam" when I posted this link a few days ago: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/jared-kushner-combat-coronavirus-facebook-127941 Idiots. I got one too. It was just a link to a video of Trump talking 2 years ago about discontinuing the White House "pandemic" office, from The Independent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #589 March 18, 2020 2 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I wonder, since you are criticizing, have you ever changed your mind, or made a mistake? Oh come on. He's not changing his mind. He's stating that he knew, before anyone else, that this was a serious pandemic (inferring that he's THAT smart), but was posting that it wasn't after that... This is all about him going 'I knew that. Of course I knew that. I knew that before anyone else. In fact, I knew that the MOST. More than anyone.' THAT'S his personality. He cannot ever, EVER be wrong. Even if he has to lie about stuff that has already happened. He can convince himself it's true, so he assumes everyone else believes it. Have you ever told yourself a lie so many times that you start to believe it? Just a bit? It's a real phenomenon. That's how he lives every second of every day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,811 #590 March 18, 2020 3 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I wonder, since you are criticizing, have you ever changed your mind, or made a mistake? Turtle, please quit just blurting shit out like SC is like a CB radio. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #591 March 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Turtle, please quit just blurting shit out like SC is like a CB radio. Trolling is what he does. It's his hobby. This is what the Ignore List is for. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,811 #592 March 18, 2020 Just now, ryoder said: Trolling is what he does. It's his hobby. This is what the Ignore List is for. I did once and then thought he was improving. Wendy thrashed me over it and I changed my mind. Now, unless he comes back saying he'll be more serious I'll block him again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 848 #593 March 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ryoder said: Trolling is what he does. It's his hobby. This is what the Ignore List is for. The ignore function is a waste in my opinion, you still see they posted some sort of nonsense, and replies to it. An actual ignore option would be significantly better. The current one is only half functional. Edited March 18, 2020 by normiss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,428 #594 March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, ryoder said: This is what the Ignore List is for. Hi Robert, Or just block him like I did. IMO he offers nothing to this forum. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #595 March 18, 2020 This is an entertaining video on the subject of hypocrisy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,559 #596 March 18, 2020 9 hours ago, turtlespeed said: I wonder, since you are criticizing, have you ever changed your mind, or made a mistake? A) You criticise the media all the time. All. The. Time. You think they're all dishonest and self serving pretty much all the time. It's hypocritical of you to take issue with someone else criticising a media outlet, and it demonstrates your immense bias that the one outlet you decide to defend is Fox. B ) It would be one thing if they admitted they'd made a mistake or changed their minds. But they don't. They just pivot form one thing to another and claim they were right all along. Like Hannity - "This virus is serious, we’ve been telling you that from day one." Errr, nope, no they haven't. C) It's all tied in with more partisan support of Trump over discussion of the truth. As soon as Trump starts taking it seriously they start taking it seriously, and claim that Trump has been taking it the most seriously of anyone since day one despite the fact that they were both downplaying it until last weekend. So no, what they're doing is not the same as someone else just changing their mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,400 #597 March 18, 2020 7 hours ago, kallend said: 10 hours ago, ryoder said: So Facebook just informed me I "violated their standards on spam" when I posted this link a few days ago: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/jared-kushner-combat-coronavirus-facebook-127941 Idiots. I got one too. It was just a link to a video of Trump talking 2 years ago about discontinuing the White House "pandemic" office, from The Independent. Facebook was marking legitimate news articles about the coronavirus as spam due to a software bug https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/17/21184445/facebook-marking-coronavirus-posts-spam-misinformation-covid-19 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,529 #598 March 18, 2020 I have one person on the ignore list; not because he posts stupid shit, but because he irritates me enough to make me want to react to stuff, and feed the troll. And every now and then when I'm bored I look at his posts (you can do it one at a time), and I haven't changed my mind yet. I find my own ignore function is plenty to ignore the "just stupid" stuff. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #599 March 18, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, jakee said: B ) It would be one thing if they admitted they'd made a mistake or changed their minds. But they don't. They just pivot form one thing to another and claim they were right all along. Like Hannity - "This virus is serious, we’ve been telling you that from day one." Errr, nope, no they haven't. Did you see the video I just posted? Fucking hypocrites (along with their defenders). EDIT: on reflection I suspect many FoxNews junkies are just too stupid to realize they're being duped. Edited March 18, 2020 by kallend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,559 #600 March 18, 2020 9 hours ago, turtlespeed said: You can call attention to Trumps mistakes, and when he changes his mind, and does the right thing, he gets criticized for that too. No. He gets criticised for changing his mind then blatantly lying about it, saying he was right all along even before anyone else was right. Quote You just want to bitch about Trump. He could be doing everything right, and you would find fault. How can you make that assessment? He isn't and hasn't been doing everything right, and people are correct in pointing that out. In the post you are replying to, he is at fault. It doesn't need to be found it's right out in the open. Now be honest, if this was a Democrat politician you'd be screaming from the rooftops about it. You'd find their lies outrageous. In fact, think of it this way - last year you even started a thread to say a particular democrat was an unelectable idiot because he accidentally used the wrong gender pronoun and wouldn't accept that he'd corrected himself hours later. But you don't think Trump's reversal and lies about his reversal are worthy of even being mentioned? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites