The Trump recession

[gowlerk 2,249]

  On 3/13/2020 at 8:08 PM, Phil1111 said:

The ventilators is a good point. W/O research I'd guess 1/2 may need a ventilator and critically ill ones for sure.

Ventilators don't actually work very well for people who's lungs are filled with fluid. A treatment called " extracorporeal membrane oxygenation for refractory hypoxemia " is often required. In other words, a machine to oxygenate the blood. Needless to say the capacity for this is very limited.

[airdvr 210]

  On 3/13/2020 at 3:46 PM, Phil1111 said:

You're a tremendous asset to discussions here. THANKS!

You must be entertaining on those hour long loads to 12.5 in a C-172.

In your haste to fire back you've got me confused with someone else.

[gowlerk 2,249]

Well then, good news for me. The investment I made Monday AM when I saw a good buying opportunity is almost back to the price I paid. Quite a ride this week has been.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

  On 3/13/2020 at 9:12 PM, Phil1111 said:

I'm wondering what percentage of those requiring hospitalization end up on a ventilator.

the 10% isn't hospitalization, the 10% is intensive care, which includes ventilator.

[airdvr 210]

  On 3/13/2020 at 9:51 PM, gowlerk said:

Well then, good news for me. The investment I made Monday AM when I saw a good buying opportunity is almost back to the price I paid. Quite a ride this week has been.

I'm up 19 points today.  ( might be a dead cat bounce)

[JoeWeber 2,821]

  On 3/13/2020 at 9:51 PM, gowlerk said:

Well then, good news for me. The investment I made Monday AM when I saw a good buying opportunity is almost back to the price I paid. Quite a ride this week has been.

I told you to stay chill, mine today are up 5.8%. Outside of your inability to follow financial advice from someone who isn't qualified to offer financial advice we have a real damn question on the table here. Are you on the run from the law? Do you have 6 wives? Do you just get a nut swerving around Moose's at night? Inquiring minds want to know.

[gowlerk 2,249]

  On 3/13/2020 at 11:24 PM, JoeWeber said:

I told you to stay chill, mine today are up 5.8%. Outside of your inability to follow financial advice from someone who isn't qualified to offer financial advice we have a real damn question on the table here. Are you on the run from the law? Do you have 6 wives? Do you just get a nut swerving around Moose's at night? Inquiring minds want to know.

No none of the boring stuff for me. I do exciting stuff like driving to Grand Forks to pick up a load of macaroni and bring it back to Winnipeg before I take the weekend off. Sometimes I see moose when I drive south of Dryden Ontario on my way to Green Bay Wisconsin. Running from the law doesn’t work very well when you have to show ID And answer questions about what country do you have visited lately to get across the border four or five times a week.

[nigel99 567]

  On 3/13/2020 at 8:04 PM, turtlespeed said:

The media will find another topic . . . I don't think it will be three weeks - There is WAY to much meat on this bone for them to gnaw on.

PLUS - they know that the longer they keep it going, the more they hurt Trump.  This is like the biggest win win the media has had since the impeachment proceedings?

So the entire world is now a conspiracy against Trump? 
I have been slow to realise it, but I think you’re an avid Trump supporter, you just post enough breadcrumbs along the way to be able to in the future cover your arse.

This is a first in my lifetime, I’ve never seen entire countries locked down, global restrictions on mass gatherings and the list goes on. This is momentous and we are in territory that is possibly uncharted. 
 

That fucking idiot of a president you have tweeted a picture of him playing a fiddle with a caption of ‘I don’t know what this means but I like it’, jeez has he never heard the phrase about Nero fiddling while Rome burns? Part of the whole problem with this crisis is we have inept and stupid world leaders (Trump, Scott Morrison, Boris Johnson to name a few)

[JoeWeber 2,821]

  On 3/13/2020 at 11:32 PM, gowlerk said:

No none of the boring stuff for me. I do exciting stuff like driving to Grand Forks to pick up a load of macaroni and bring it back to Winnipeg before I take the weekend off. Sometimes I see moose when I drive south of Dryden Ontario on my way to Green Bay Wisconsin. Running from the law doesn’t work very well when you have to show ID And answer questions about what country do you have visited lately to get across the border four or five times a week.

No mention of your wives but that's understandable. My point, like you didn't get it, is that you are a sharp guy and an anomaly. Please make an effort to be one or the other.

[gowlerk 2,249]

My second and current wife is a nurse and a skydiver. My ex wife is an ex skydiver and a retired nurse. I am a man of habit.

[JoeWeber 2,821]

  On 3/13/2020 at 11:46 PM, gowlerk said:

My second and current wife is a nurse and a skydiver. My ex wife is an ex skydiver and a retired nurse. I am a man of habit.

Lovely, your life is a palindrome. No matter, I like your thinking.

[ryoder 1,590]

  On 3/13/2020 at 11:46 PM, gowlerk said:

My second and current wife is a nurse and a skydiver. My ex wife is an ex skydiver and a retired nurse. I am a man of habit.

I knew a skydiver married to a nurse.  He met her in the hospital when they hauled him in with a broken leg from a botched landing.  Is that how you meet your wives?

Edited March 14, 2020 by ryoder

[gowlerk 2,249]

  On 3/14/2020 at 12:06 AM, ryoder said:

I knew a skydiver married to a nurse.  He met her in the hospital when they hauled him in with a broken leg from a botched landing.  Is that how you meet your wives?

My first wife was the girl next door. She wanted to try skydiving so we both did. After that marriage fell apart I met my current wife at the DZ. I’ve not spent a night in a hospital since I was 10. But there was a cute nurse there that I sort of remember.

[JoeWeber 2,821]

  On 3/14/2020 at 12:40 AM, gowlerk said:

My first wife was the girl next door. She wanted to try skydiving so we both did. After that marriage fell apart I met my current wife at the DZ. I’ve not spent a night in a hospital since I was 10. But there was a cute nurse there that I sort of remember.

So ryoders point is intact: you have a system.

[Coreece 190]

  On 3/14/2020 at 12:06 AM, ryoder said:

I knew a skydiver married to a nurse.  He met her in the hospital when they hauled him in with a broken leg from a botched landing. 

Florence nightingale effect?  How long did the marriage last?

[jakee 1,562]

  On 3/13/2020 at 8:04 PM, turtlespeed said:

The media will find another topic . . . I don't think it will be three weeks - There is WAY to much meat on this bone for them to gnaw on.

PLUS - they know that the longer they keep it going, the more they hurt Trump.  This is like the biggest win win the media has had since the impeachment proceedings?

Trumps travel ban lasts for four weeks. But sure, the reason for the media to spend more than three weeks talking about it would be to damage Trump, not because there's something actually happening.

 

Just like airdvr - lazy, lazy thinking.

[nigel99 567]

  On 3/14/2020 at 7:30 AM, jakee said:

Trumps travel ban lasts for four weeks. But sure, the reason for the media to spend more than three weeks talking about it would be to damage Trump, not because there's something actually happening.

 

Just like airdvr - lazy, lazy thinking.

It’s beyond lazy thinking. The Trump cult is strong, so strong it’s scary. 
He has managed to connect with weak and vulnerable people in a way that other politicians haven’t for a long time. He will manipulate and milk them for all they are worth and they will sing his praises along the way. Sort of like the pied piper I guess

[airdvr 210]

Call it what you like.  We just grew up in different times.

[gowlerk 2,249]

  On 3/14/2020 at 1:00 PM, airdvr said:

Call it what you like.  We just grew up in different times.

We grew up with different values. The times were the same.

[airdvr 210]

Tell me what values you think you possess that I don't.

[gowlerk 2,249]

  On 3/14/2020 at 3:48 PM, airdvr said:

Tell me what values you think you possess that I don't.

Ones that lead you to defend the POTUS, who is not defensible in a normal world. Why do you think the times have anything to do with it?

[airdvr 210]

Not going to get into a values argument with you.  When this covid-19 scare has crashed the world's economies and you've nothing to haul in your truck I hope you can eat your values.

[gowlerk 2,249]

  On 3/14/2020 at 4:24 PM, airdvr said:

Not going to get into a values argument with you.  When this covid-19 scare has crashed the world's economies and you've nothing to haul in your truck I hope you can eat your values.

Make up your mind. Is it a scare, a media event, or are people going to get sick and crash the economy? Go to Italy and ask a doctor if it's a media event. Open you freaking eyes. The economy is not going to crash. There will be a recession. This will be a setback, it is not an existential threat. And last of all, it is not a conspiracy against your beloved leader.

If I can't work I have savings to fall back on. That's not what I was planning on spending them on, but what the hell, saving for a rainy day is part of being a responsible adult. I'm more worried about how my wife who is a nurse is going to be affected. So yes, I approve of the media spreading the word and doing what it can to lower the impact.

Edited March 14, 2020 by gowlerk

[headoverheels 333]

  On 3/13/2020 at 9:51 PM, gowlerk said:

Well then, good news for me. The investment I made Monday AM when I saw a good buying opportunity is almost back to the price I paid. Quite a ride this week has been.

I'm expecting a drop on Monday, but I've shown over the years a consistent record of under performing the market.

[gowlerk 2,249]

  On 3/15/2020 at 1:20 AM, headoverheels said:

I'm expecting a drop on Monday, but I've shown over the years a consistent record of under performing the market.

I know the feeling. I get the odd win, but that just makes me overconfident for a while till I error again. That's why I keep most of my savings in a hands off professionally managed fund and only play with a smaller portion.