yoink 321 #1 Posted April 16, 2020 Three times now, a drone from a nearby neighbors house has taken off and loitered about 50ft over our back yard while my wife is in the hot tub. It's a large drone with a camera on it. We've not seen or heard it flying at all at other times. I can see where it takes off from and lands. The owner is a young 20-something guy who lives with his mother and walks all over her. The police say they can't really do much as while it's illegal, it's not criminal. They could ask him to stop but that's about all and a restraining order is unlikely to be a quick or easy process. The law states that you are not allowed to interfere with or destroy the drone as it's technically running under FAA rules. There have been many stories of people being sued after doing this. So what do you do? My solution - The last time, I followed it back and walked into the back garden of the house as the guy was picking up the drone and asked him politely to stop flying over my house. I may or may not have been holding a baseball bat. I've not seen the drone since. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #2 April 16, 2020 Would this work? Make it return to home? https://www.engadget.com/2016/05/25/florida-man-fined-48k-FCC-jamming-cellphones/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #3 April 16, 2020 Get your own drone and go air to air. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #4 April 16, 2020 Invest in the restraining order. Use security camera footage to document it. Call the FAA and register a complaint against flight operations. If the Drone is over 57 grams it must be licensed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #5 April 16, 2020 3 hours ago, turtlespeed said: If the Drone is over 57 grams it must be licensed. FALSE, both under current FAR Part 107 and under the (as yet to be implemented) NPRM FAA-2019-1100 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #6 April 16, 2020 9 hours ago, yoink said: My solution - The last time, I followed it back and walked into the back garden of the house as the guy was picking up the drone and asked him politely to stop flying over my house. I may or may not have been holding a baseball bat. I've not seen the drone since. I thought you had the answer? It seems as if you're not the only one. If you have the solution you could start a new franchise business of muscle bound, baseball bat carrying, drone grounding, door knockers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #7 April 16, 2020 9 hours ago, yoink said: So what do you do? Try to hack it and fly it straight up their ass. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #8 April 16, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, yoink said: Three times now, a drone from a nearby neighbors house has taken off and loitered about 50ft over our back yard while my wife is in the hot tub. It's a large drone with a camera on it. We've not seen or heard it flying at all at other times. I can see where it takes off from and lands. The owner is a young 20-something guy who lives with his mother and walks all over her. The police say they can't really do much as while it's illegal, it's not criminal. They could ask him to stop but that's about all and a restraining order is unlikely to be a quick or easy process. The law states that you are not allowed to interfere with or destroy the drone as it's technically running under FAA rules. There have been many stories of people being sued after doing this. So what do you do? My solution - The last time, I followed it back and walked into the back garden of the house as the guy was picking up the drone and asked him politely to stop flying over my house. I may or may not have been holding a baseball bat. I've not seen the drone since. In the USA, FAA regulations on flying a UAS (FAA-speak for "drone") are quite strict about flying over people or structures. If this one is really loitering at low altitude over your house and people in your yard, it is certainly in violation. Additionally, although local authorities do not have the ability to set their own regulations in conflict with the FARs, they DO have the ability to prosecute public nuisance statutes. Further, any LEO (including your local Officer Friendly) is authorized to inspect the paperwork showing that said UAS and its operator are legal. Even the operator of a "recreational" drone weighing over 250g has to be registered with the FAA and have documentation to prove it. The drone also has to be marked with the operator's registration number on an external surface. How do I know this? I obtained my FAR Part 107 "Remote Pilot" certificate in the first week that they were available (Sept 2016), and am also registered as a recreational UAS operator. Edited April 16, 2020 by kallend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 April 16, 2020 4 hours ago, kallend said: FALSE, both under current FAR Part 107 and under the (as yet to be implemented) NPRM FAA-2019-1100 Right - I should have said registered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #10 April 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Right - I should have said registered. You don't actually READ, do you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #11 April 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, kallend said: You don't actually READ, do you? Are you capable of doing something else besides condescension? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #12 April 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Are you capable of doing something else besides condescension? Are you capable of finding out the facts on a subject before posting falsehoods? You and Trump make a fine pair. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #13 April 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Are you capable of doing something else besides condescension? He just keeps pointing out over and over again just how frequently your replies are completely irrelevant because you fail to address key points. Because you can't be bothered to keep up. It seems to be more important to you to speak than it is to you to listen. Kallend is capable of far more than condensation. It's not like everyone here gets the same treatment from him. I wonder why he seems to only be condescending to you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #14 April 16, 2020 53 minutes ago, kallend said: Are you capable of finding out the facts on a subject before posting falsehoods? You and Trump make a fine pair. You definitely try to belittle people as he does, I'll give you that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #15 April 16, 2020 52 minutes ago, gowlerk said: He just keeps pointing out over and over again just how frequently your replies are completely irrelevant because you fail to address key points. Because you can't be bothered to keep up. It seems to be more important to you to speak than it is to you to listen. Kallend is capable of far more than condensation. It's not like everyone here gets the same treatment from him. I wonder why he seems to only be condescending to you? Evidently he needs you as a press secretary to explain his actions as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #16 April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, kallend said: Are you capable of finding out the facts on a subject before posting falsehoods? You and Trump make a fine pair. You two are more similar than you will ever admit. I did have the grams incorrect. 250 grams - above that, registration is required. I don't know why I thought it was 57 grams. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #17 April 16, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Evidently he needs you as a press secretary to explain his actions as well. nevermind Edited April 16, 2020 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #18 April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, turtlespeed said: You two are more similar than you will ever admit. I did have the grams incorrect. 250 grams - above that, registration is required. I don't know why I thought it was 57 grams. FACT: Your statement "If the Drone is over 57 grams it must be licensed." was 100% false in each of two respects. And still you try to weasel out of it and somehow try to fault me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,823 #19 April 16, 2020 14 hours ago, yoink said: Three times now, a drone from a nearby neighbors house has taken off and loitered about 50ft over our back yard while my wife is in the hot tub. It's a large drone with a camera on it. We've not seen or heard it flying at all at other times. I can see where it takes off from and lands. The owner is a young 20-something guy who lives with his mother and walks all over her. The police say they can't really do much as while it's illegal, it's not criminal. They could ask him to stop but that's about all and a restraining order is unlikely to be a quick or easy process. The law states that you are not allowed to interfere with or destroy the drone as it's technically running under FAA rules. There have been many stories of people being sued after doing this. So what do you do? My solution - The last time, I followed it back and walked into the back garden of the house as the guy was picking up the drone and asked him politely to stop flying over my house. I may or may not have been holding a baseball bat. I've not seen the drone since. Wave at it, smile big, and say Hi. Give it a thumbs up and a Hawaiian hand jive signal. And hope that some bastard kid with a rocket slingshot and pocket full of 1oz ball bearings doesn't ruin the moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,436 #20 April 16, 2020 50 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Wave at it, smile big, and say Hi. Give it a thumbs up and a Hawaiian hand jive signal. And hope that some bastard kid with a rocket slingshot and pocket full of 1oz ball bearings doesn't ruin the moment. Hi Joe, Why does it have to be a 'bastard kid?' I would think any kid would do. :) Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,823 #21 April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Joe, Why does it have to be a 'bastard kid?' I would think any kid would do. :) Jerry Baumchen Yes, they should all be suspects and vigorously interrogated until one confesses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #22 April 16, 2020 3 hours ago, kallend said: FACT: Your statement "If the Drone is over 57 grams it must be licensed." was 100% false in each of two respects. And still you try to weasel out of it and somehow try to fault me. Yes, he was wrong. No, he will never apologize no matter what you say. Does it really bother you that much? I mean, he does this several times a day, and he 'wins' if he gets your goat. You can always block him if you like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,436 #23 April 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, billvon said: You can always block him if you like. Hi Bill, ^^^^^^^ THIS Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #24 April 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, billvon said: Yes, he was wrong. No, he will never apologize no matter what you say. Does it really bother you that much? I mean, he does this several times a day, and he 'wins' if he gets your goat. You can always block him if you like. I admitted I was wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #25 April 19, 2020 Dear tonyhays, Using your cell-phone may be stupid and illegal, but I still see it everyday in Vancouver. Yesterday I heard (AM radio broadcasting from Bellingham, Washington) of an insurance company offering lower auto insurance rates if you commit to non-distracted driving and agree to install a monitoring app. Big Brother will cheerfully sell you a monitor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites