airdvr 210 #1 Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany responded with quotes at-hand to a reporter who asked her if she would like to take back comments she made earlier this year downplaying the threat of the coronavirus. "You made a comment, I believe on Fox, in which you said, 'President Trump will not allow the coronavirus to come to this country,'" a reporter asked McEnany on Wednesday during a White House press briefing. "Given what has happened since then, obviously, would you like to take that back?" "I was asked a question ... about the president's travel restrictions," McEnany responded. "I noted what was the intent behind those restrictions." Regarding whether she regrets making those comments to Fox Business while she worked as Trump's national press secretary for his campaign, McEnany said members of the media can ask themselves the same thing about stories they published during the pandemic's early days that downplayed the severity of the disease. "I guess I would turn the question back on the media and ask similar questions," she said. "Does Vox want to take back that they proclaimed that the coronavirus would not be a deadly pandemic? Does the Washington Post want to take back that they told Americans to get a grip, the flu is bigger than the coronavirus?" McEnany continued, "Does the Washington Post likewise want to take back that our brains are causing us to exaggerate the threat of the coronavirus? Does the New York Times want to take back that fear of the virus may be spreading faster than the virus itself?" "I'll leave with you with those questions," McEnany said, concluding the press conference. "And maybe you'll have an answer in a few days." I like this new one. Edited May 7, 2020 by airdvr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #2 May 7, 2020 Isn't she the one that promised not to lie? There is an important distance between the WH, FOX, trump and the news media. Media reports the news. Its not supposed to create news. trump, the president, ran in the election to lead. To "hire the best", because he 'is the smartest", to MAGA. When reporters from the WP reported what trump had said. trump is the one that had daily security briefings. That had a dozen or more warnings that China was losing containment of the virus. She has the spin down and the lies have started to flow. IMO the spin will increase. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #3 May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: There is an important distance between the WH, FOX, trump and the news media. Media reports the news. Its not supposed to create news. I'm really beginning to think you are a bot. You are given several examples of the media getting it wrong as well. Care to address the issue? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #4 May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, airdvr said: I'm really beginning to think you are a bot. You are given several examples of the media getting it wrong as well. Care to address the issue? trump C-19 briefings preceded any news of the virus on US shores. You're the one failing to recognize that the ride in the A/C precedes the parachute ride. The WH press secretary quotes "Vox" , which is likely a lie. Why don't you find the quote and the date they made it and ascertain if that was a statement preceded by a WH official. WP likely never made that statement. Without direct times and dates. Its another liar from the WH. I think both you and Coreece make regular comments about my posting style of "cut and paste" and extensive direct quotes. Why don't you try it with the facts that started this thread. Date and quote from Vox and WP as to what exactly was represented. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #5 May 7, 2020 TRY AGAIN. Media do not create news, they report it. That is their job. McEnerny is a paid mouthpiece for the liar in chief. The latest Mouth of Sauron, if you like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,497 #6 May 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, airdvr said: I like this new one. Of course you do, she's a twister. WaPo said Coronavirus wasn't as serious as the flu for now on the 1st of Feb. Trump was still mking comparisons to flu death numbers over a month later. As the person now responsible for what the White House puts out, shouldn't she be taking back Trump's comments first? Her own comments also came at the end of Feb. In fact, she said Coronavirus would not come to the US when it was already in the US. She made much more solid statements than the newspapers she's 'clapping back' at and she made them later in the game. Trump also made worse flu comparisons at a far later stage than the outlets she is questioning, and that matters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #7 May 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, airdvr said: I'm really beginning to think you are a bot. You are given several examples of the media getting it wrong as well. Care to address the issue? She was being asked about correcting a previous wrong and gave examples of newspapers who do that all the time. Yes, those newspapers should and do correct their stories if they get them wrong. Should she not correct herself or is she more interested in whataboutism? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #8 May 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, DJL said: Should she not correct herself or is she more interested in whataboutism? Rhetorical question, right? (As was that). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #9 May 7, 2020 I apologize to SC for wasting cloud storage by replying to the trolling by the WH and their apologists. The WH has zero credibility and absent date and entire direct quote. Its a lie and distraction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #10 May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, airdvr said: I'm really beginning to think you are a bot. You are given several examples of the media getting it wrong as well. Care to address the issue? So people who ask you uncomfortable questions get accused of being 'bots'? Really? Phil & I have been on here for years. So have you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #11 May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: So people who ask you uncomfortable questions get accused of being 'bots'? Really? Phil & I have been on here for years. So have you. He has learnt well. When the facts don't match, distract. Sort of like the old legal saw “If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #12 May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Phil1111 said: The WH press secretary quotes "Vox" , which is likely a lie. Why don't you find the quote and the date they made it and ascertain if that was a statement preceded by a WH official. WP likely never made that statement. Without direct times and dates. Its another liar from the WH. I'm not the one contending it was a lie. Show me that it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #13 May 7, 2020 Reporters report information told to them by the White House and the administration. White House responds with, those stories were all wrong, the information in the reports were all wrong and y'all need to think about that. Hmmm...well, it's being shown that EVERYTHING coming from the White House and the administration IS wrong, so the reports were entirely correct. Maybe if the administration told the truth? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #14 May 7, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, airdvr said: I'm not the one contending it was a lie. Show me that it is. Well there is Factcheck.org Wikipedia;Veracity of statements by Donald Trump Worldwide distrust of trump because of lies I could go on but why keep beating the poor dead horse. Edited May 7, 2020 by Phil1111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 479 #15 May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, airdvr said: I'm really beginning to think you are a bot. You are given several examples of the media getting it wrong as well. Care to address the issue? You really think there are bots on a tiny webpage like speakers corner on dz.com? There’s probably less than 50 active posters in here nowadays, and many of them have met, albeit briefly. I mean I’m from the UK/Australia and I’ve met Bigun, Kallend and Normiss at skydiving events over the years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #16 May 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, airdvr said: I'm not the one contending it was a lie. Show me that it is. You're the one who is posting the words of the woman calling Vox's reporting a lie. These are YOUR claims. I looked back through old Vox articles and can't find anywhere that they promoted a message assuring their readers that it would not be a pandemic. What Vox did do was to make that claim in a Tweet (Jan 31), one that they DID acknowledge was wrong on March 24. The Washington Post article Feb 1 stated that at that point the Flu was still more of a threat but went to great lengths to describe that it has entered our country and has caused many deaths where it gained a foothold elsewhere: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/time-for-a-reality-check-america-the-flu-is-a-much-bigger-threat-than-coronavirus-for-now/2020/01/31/46a15166-4444-11ea-b5fc-eefa848cde99_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&tid=lk_inline_manual_19&itid=lk_inline_manual_19 The next WaPo article was about how we perceive threats and tend to fear things that are more novel, it did not say the coronavirus was not a threat. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/01/31/how-our-brains-make-coronavirus-seem-scarier-than-it-is/?tid=lk_inline_manual_22&itid=lk_inline_manual_22 The NYT article Jan 29 was about how in Europe people and places face a stigma despite there only being 40 cases on the European continent at that time. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/18/world/europe/coronavirus-stigma-europe.html The final WaPo article Feb 3 she referenced was an opinion piece about the dangers of over reaching government control. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/03/why-we-should-be-wary-an-aggressive-government-response-coronavirus/?tid=lk_inline_manual_33&itid=lk_inline_manual_33 So, all instances that were either retracted, relevant to that time or did not say what she claimed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #17 May 7, 2020 3 hours ago, airdvr said: White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany responded with quotes at-hand to a reporter who asked her if she would like to take back comments she made earlier this year downplaying the threat of the coronavirus. "You made a comment, I believe on Fox, in which you said, 'President Trump will not allow the coronavirus to come to this country,'" a reporter asked McEnany on Wednesday during a White House press briefing. "Given what has happened since then, obviously, would you like to take that back?" "I was asked a question ... about the president's travel restrictions," McEnany responded. "I noted what was the intent behind those restrictions." Regarding whether she regrets making those comments to Fox Business while she worked as Trump's national press secretary for his campaign, McEnany said members of the media can ask themselves the same thing about stories they published during the pandemic's early days that downplayed the severity of the disease. "I guess I would turn the question back on the media and ask similar questions," she said. "Does Vox want to take back that they proclaimed that the coronavirus would not be a deadly pandemic? Does the Washington Post want to take back that they told Americans to get a grip, the flu is bigger than the coronavirus?" McEnany continued, "Does the Washington Post likewise want to take back that our brains are causing us to exaggerate the threat of the coronavirus? Does the New York Times want to take back that fear of the virus may be spreading faster than the virus itself?" "I'll leave with you with those questions," McEnany said, concluding the press conference. "And maybe you'll have an answer in a few days." I like this new one. One side is reporting information from other people. The other is stating the position of the current Administration. How the fuck do you not understand the difference? No wonder Trump loves dumb people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #18 May 7, 2020 https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/time-for-a-reality-check-america-the-flu-is-a-much-bigger-threat-than-coronavirus-for-now/2020/01/31/46a15166-4444-11ea-b5fc-eefa848cde99_story.html The rapidly spreading virus has closed schools in Knoxville, Tenn., cut blood donations to dangerous levels in Cleveland and prompted limits on hospital visitors in Wilson, N.C. More ominously, it has infected as many as 26 million people in the United States in just four months, killing up to 25,000 so far. In other words, a difficult but not extraordinary flu season in the United States, the kind most people shrug off each winter or handle with rest, fluids and pain relievers if they contract the illness. But this year, a new coronavirus from China has focused attention on diseases that can sweep through an entire population, rattling the public despite the current magnitude of the threat. Clearly, the flu poses the bigger and more pressing peril; a handful of cases of the new respiratory illness have been reported in the United States, none of them fatal or apparently even life-threatening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #19 May 7, 2020 (edited) She, herself, claimed it would be refreshing that we would not see terrorism here in the US, nor a virus like that. <Flash fake smile> Edited May 7, 2020 by normiss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #20 May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, normiss said: She, herself, claimed it would be refreshing that we would get terrorism here in the US, not a virus like that. Context Marc...context. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #21 May 7, 2020 Just now, airdvr said: Context Marc...context. Who are you responding to? (I think I need new batteries in my keyboard. It's f'n weird) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #22 May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, normiss said: Who are you responding to? (I think I need new batteries in my keyboard. It's f'n weird) You... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #23 May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, airdvr said: You... That ain't me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #24 May 7, 2020 Just now, normiss said: That ain't me. Sorry. I thought your first name was Marc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #25 May 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, airdvr said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/time-for-a-reality-check-america-the-flu-is-a-much-bigger-threat-than-coronavirus-for-now/2020/01/31/46a15166-4444-11ea-b5fc-eefa848cde99_story.html The rapidly spreading virus has closed schools in Knoxville, Tenn., cut blood donations to dangerous levels in Cleveland and prompted limits on hospital visitors in Wilson, N.C. More ominously, it has infected as many as 26 million people in the United States in just four months, killing up to 25,000 so far. In other words, a difficult but not extraordinary flu season in the United States, the kind most people shrug off each winter or handle with rest, fluids and pain relievers if they contract the illness. But this year, a new coronavirus from China has focused attention on diseases that can sweep through an entire population, rattling the public despite the current magnitude of the threat. Clearly, the flu poses the bigger and more pressing peril; a handful of cases of the new respiratory illness have been reported in the United States, none of them fatal or apparently even life-threatening. So on Jan 31, the Washington Post reported then current numbers indicating that FOR NOW the flu was a bigger concern. The Administration said that Dear Leader would not allow the virus to enter the United States. You think those are the same thing. No wonder Trump loves dumb people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites