Nothing about this is a protest. (NSFW Racial Expletives)

[turtlespeed 226]

11 minutes ago, jakee said:

But it is very easy to prove a blanket statement false. There are several threads on the front page right now which do that. Indeed, that you would make such a statement does seem to show you have closed off your mind from honestly listening to anything said by those you see as the left.

When your affiliated group here says something, and they all agree, it still doesn't necessarily make them right.

[billvon 3,070]

2 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Not so much.  He is just calling attention to, and recognizing that any disagreement with (Insert specificity) that most of the more vocal left crowd, here in Speakers Corner, will label you as a (Pick your relative "ist").

Sounds like you don't understand the difference either.  No one claims you hate white people because you attack Biden.

[jakee 1,563]

34 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

When your affiliated group here says something, and they all agree, it still doesn't necessarily make them right.

That doesn't follow anything that has just been said.

Edited June 17, 2020 by jakee

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

8 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

Here a black pastor shares his understanding.

https://www.oann.com/pastor-darrell-scott-we-need-to-increase-funding-to-police/

 

5 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

You calling a black pastor a moron, I believe that qualifies as being racist in this forum.

Actually, your implication that the pastor you agree with speaks for all black people is more racist than the Professor calling him a moron.

See below.

2 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

And what makes you think the opinion of one black pastors overrides the opinions of thousands of black people?

Must mean I can ascribe the opinions of an American white supremacist to all American whites.

Because it validates his beliefs.

1 hour ago, jakee said:

That doesn't follow anything that has just been said.

And when does anything he posts follow what had just been said?

[turtlespeed 226]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Sounds like you don't understand the difference either.  No one claims you hate white people because you attack Biden.

Well, no, not normally, but give it long enough here in SC . . . .  Also, you can't really say that if he were a candidate that might have a common "ism" attached to them, regardless of what the disagreement is about.

[billvon 3,070]

27 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Well, no, not normally

Right.  Again, two sets of standards depending on who Ron is talking to.

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Also, you can't really say that if he were a candidate that might have a common "ism" attached to them, regardless of what the disagreement is about.

I don't say that at all.  You regularly attach every -ism under the sun to candidates you don't like.

[jakee 1,563]

52 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Well, no, not normally, but give it long enough here in SC . . . .  Also, you can't really say that if he were a candidate that might have a common "ism" attached to them, regardless of what the disagreement is about.

If he was some form of minority there would be some amount of 'ist' criticism of him. This would be pointed out. You would then jump on it and say that all his defenders call all his critics 'ist'. And you'd be just as wrong as you were just now.

 

That exact thing played out with Obama, too. Remember when he once gave an interview where he said that some criticism aimed at him was because of race? What he said was simple and easily understood, but Fox and people here still jumped all over it saying 'hey look Obama's trying to squelch his opponents by saying that anyone who disagrees with him is racist!' It's bullshit.

[turtlespeed 226]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Right.  Again, two sets of standards depending on who Ron is talking to.

I don't say that at all.  You regularly attach every -ism under the sun to candidates you don't like.

That is simply not true.

Since you brought him up as your example.  Show where I have said Biden practices Racism, or Misogynism, or any of the like.  Any at ALL? 

 

[turtlespeed 226]

1 hour ago, jakee said:

If he was some form of minority there would be some amount of 'ist' criticism of him. This would be pointed out. You would then jump on it and say that all his defenders call all his critics 'ist'. And you'd be just as wrong as you were just now.

 

That exact thing played out with Obama, too. Remember when he once gave an interview where he said that some criticism aimed at him was because of race? What he said was simple and easily understood, but Fox and people here still jumped all over it saying 'hey look Obama's trying to squelch his opponents by saying that anyone who disagrees with him is racist!' It's bullshit.

Actually that came out more in response to social media attacks that referred to people disagreeing with Obama in any way, were racist.  Fox may have jumped the band wagon then - but what I remember is watching the posts on social media day after day.  

Look it up if you don't believe me.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

3 hours ago, jakee said:

IThat exact thing played out with Obama, too. Remember when he once gave an interview where he said that some criticism aimed at him was because of race? What he said was simple and easily understood, but Fox and people here still jumped all over it saying 'hey look Obama's trying to squelch his opponents by saying that anyone who disagrees with him is racist!' It's bullshit.

Actually, it was Oprah Winfrey who gave the interveiw, and her comments were more along the line that Obama was subject to a lot of extra criticism due to racism. Which was pretty much true.

The part about the Alt-Right and racists pretending she claimed that all the criticism was racist is absolutely correct.

I seem to remember certain people on here claiming exactly that.

[billvon 3,070]

On 6/16/2020 at 3:57 AM, RonD1120 said:

Black Lives Matter Is Based On A Leftist LIE - WHO AGREES?

Here's someone else who agrees with you 100% - the right wing cop killer who was just arrested.

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Accused Killer Of California Cops Was Associated With Right-Wing 'Boogaloo Movement'

Forbes Staff

The FBI announced Tuesday that Steven Carrillo, the U.S. Air Force sergeant who allegedly murdered law enforcement officers in California during protests earlier this month, was associated with the right-wing Boogaloo movement, and that Carrillo chose the timing of his attacks to "take advantage of a time when this nation was mourning the killing of George Floyd."

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[normiss 851]

Interesting and disconcerting insight into a police forum. It's rather disturbing. WE are their enemy from many accounts.

[mistercwood 287]

3 hours ago, normiss said:

Interesting and disconcerting insight into a police forum. It's rather disturbing. WE are their enemy from many accounts.

Is that... is that real? If so, hooooolly shiiiiiit....

[nigel99 568]

FUCK the Police. Forget the American police, the Australian police are cunts. 
Today I have had the worst experience of incompetence ever. I’m not sharing details, I have the biggest load of shit unfolding

[RonD1120 62]

On 6/1/2020 at 12:33 PM, Phil1111 said:

While Bill Gates and his foundation primarily donate money and fund health care initiatives thought the world. George Soros has chosen to fund democracy, human rights and civil rights. He is fact the second largest philanthropist in the world after Gates.

"George Soros is an exceptionally busy man, at least according to right-wing conspiracy theorists. Just within the last year, he has been credited with single-handedly funding the Black Lives Matter and Antifa movements, as well as with bankrolling (as a false-flag operation) the white-nationalist rally in Charlottesville against which both of those groups mobilized. Soros has been accused of masterminding Colin Kaepernick’s NFL protest and the Women’s March, and with pulling the strings that led H.R. McMaster, President Donald Trump’s national security adviser, to fire alt-right–aligned staffers. And last week, the supporters of the Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore alleged that Soros paid women to falsely accuse him of sexual assault."...

In October, Soros disclosed that over the last few years, he has turned over around $18 billion to the institutions through which he has channeled his philanthropy, the Open Society Foundations (OSF). The enormous gift was met as a confirmation of all the darkest fears stoked by his antagonists. Pointing out that Soros’s foundation would now rank as the second largest behind the Gates Foundation, the right-wing website   announced the news by referring to OSF as the “Death Star.”

Soros is in fact the enemy of everything Breitbart, trump and Darth Vader..er.. I mean Stephen Miller.

Here is an interesting article on George Soros.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/connoisseur-chaos-14954.html

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

Here is an interesting article on George Soros.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/connoisseur-chaos-14954.html

Well I did start reading your article. From the first paragraph lie #1 Soros was the fifth largest donor not the largest..  As compared to the Koch brothers who spent $4.3 million in Wisconsin alone among the $30-$40 million to get trump elected.

The insider trading fine Soros paid was less than a tenth of the fine trump paid for fraud for his trump University Scam. Furthermore was only $300k more than trump paid for theft from a charity.

[turtlespeed 226]

This may be protest worthy!

https://www.news18.com/news/movies/jimmy-kimmel-flees-los-angeles-after-backlash-for-use-of-blackface-in-sketches-2684719.html

[DJL 235]

55 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

This may be protest worthy!

https://www.news18.com/news/movies/jimmy-kimmel-flees-los-angeles-after-backlash-for-use-of-blackface-in-sketches-2684719.html

The funny part of this is Republicans and people like Donald Trump Jr. stoking the flames of an action that they themselves care nothing about.  They would call the response false outrage if it were about themselves or political allies.

Edited June 24, 2020 by DJL

[turtlespeed 226]

3 minutes ago, DJL said:

The funny part of this is Republicans and people like Donald Trump Jr. stoking the flames of an action that they themselves care nothing about.  They would call the response false outrage if it were about themselves or political allies.

. . . And if it were a conservative entertainer - there would be no chance in hell he would ever work again on any major network. (probably not any minor ones either)

There are two standards at work here.

Its refreshing to see the more liberal leaning voices get handed their crow to eat.

[DJL 235]

12 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

. . . And if it were a conservative entertainer - there would be no chance in hell he would ever work again on any major network. (probably not any minor ones either)

There are two standards at work here.

Its refreshing to see the more liberal leaning voices get handed their crow to eat.

Like who?

In any case, and this is my personal opinion, dressing up as a black person isn't blackface.  Blackface is a flat out racist depiction, darkening one's skin for the purposes of a costume requires the context of what that costume was for.  If you're a college bro dressed crunk, a bit racist, if you're C. Thomas Howell, not racist but that whole movie missed the point and shouldn't have existed.  Jimmy Kimmel didn't do anything racist but his girlfriend definitely did.

Edited June 24, 2020 by DJL

[Phil1111 1,149]

11 minutes ago, DJL said:

The funny part of this is Republicans and people like Donald Trump Jr. stoking the flames of an action that they themselves care nothing about.  They would call the response false outrage if it were about themselves or political allies.

Donald trump Jr., trump and his political team have a steady stream of dog whistles and racist messages for their base. They depend on the confederates and closet racists for support.

Every twist and turn of Hollywood likely not. But messages like this appeal to his base like.....Turtle! Who can then point to liberals as a bunch of hypocrites. Turtle has been pounding the table today on that very point. Poor "whitey" attacked from outside and within. So it must be time to move on with no change to the status quo.

[BIGUN 1,406]

11 minutes ago, DJL said:

dressing up as a black person isn't blackface.  Blackface is a flat out racist depiction, darkening one's skin for the purposes of a costume requires the context of what that costume was for. 

While I understand what you're saying; there is one thing to consider. How would it make a person of color feel? My opinion is, making fun of - is making fun of. 

[kallend 2,106]

Was Sir Lawrence Olivier racist when he played Othello?

Or just the best actor for the part (he got an Oscar nomination as "best actor")?

http://actoroscar.blogspot.com/2011/01/best-actor-1965-laurence-olivier-in.html

[BIGUN 1,406]

3 minutes ago, kallend said:

Or just the best actor for the part (he got an Oscar nomination as "best actor")?

So, there were no black men that could have played the part? Civil Activist Paul Robeson played Othello on Broadway in 1943. At that time it was said that no white man should ever play Othello again.  

[DJL 235]

44 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

While I understand what you're saying; there is one thing to consider. How would it make a person of color feel? My opinion is, making fun of - is making fun of. 

The difference in that regard is whether it makes fun of the individual or all of the members of that race.  Making fun of Carl Malone with an accurate depiction of Carl Malone isn't meant to target a race.  But, continuing with the point of your question, does that depiction inherently offend other black people?  At that time there was no outcry over actors doing it but now it's now an issue in retrospect.