grimmie 186 #576 November 18, 2013 It seems that every airport in America has a group of citizens that want to close the airport because of noise and aircraft safety concerns. At my DZ we have two groups, Citizens for a Better Oceanside and the East End Neighborhood Association that are constantly calling the FAA, the mayor and city council. Check out some of these... http://www.closetheairport.com/ http://asapgillespiefield.com/ http://archives.californiaaviation.org/ganews/msg10503.html http://www.casmat.org/ http://www.envirolink.org/resource.html?itemid=241&catid=5 http://airportnoiselaw.org/cases/burling1.html http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/protect-citizens-surrounding-palomar-airport/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #577 November 18, 2013 As an amusing aside, the first link has a claim that jets have trouble taking off from the Sedona airport due to high density altitudes - so they dump fuel right _after_ takeoff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigMikeH77 0 #578 November 18, 2013 Quote After each jet fuel dump not only did we get sick, my Persian cat would lose her bowels and bladder all over the house. Now GA is the scapegoat for poor housetraining according to the first link.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #579 November 19, 2013 BigMikeH77 Quote After each jet fuel dump not only did we get sick, my Persian cat would lose her bowels and bladder all over the house. Now GA is the scapegoat for poor housetraining according to the first link.. Persian cats are fucking ugly anyway.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #580 November 19, 2013 grue *** Quote After each jet fuel dump not only did we get sick, my Persian cat would lose her bowels and bladder all over the house. Now GA is the scapegoat for poor housetraining according to the first link.. Persian cats are fucking ugly anyway. Persian cats are OK. Some of the owners... not so much. Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #581 November 19, 2013 billvon As an amusing aside, the first link has a claim that jets have trouble taking off from the Sedona airport due to high density altitudes - so they dump fuel right _after_ takeoff. But they have proof the a/c are dumping; They can *smell* it!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #582 November 19, 2013 billvonAs an amusing aside, the first link has a claim that jets have trouble taking off from the Sedona airport due to high density altitudes - so they dump fuel right _after_ takeoff. OMFG!!!! Don't they know how much that fuel costs? That sir is a funny site... I had to mute the computer because there's no way that I saw to stop the stupid video."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #583 November 19, 2013 I am under the impression not that many aircraft flying these days actually have the ability to dump fuel. I would expect even fewer piston aircraft using LL have that capability, but it's a guess at best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #584 November 19, 2013 normiss I am under the impression not that many aircraft flying these days actually have the ability to dump fuel. I would expect even fewer piston aircraft using LL have that capability, but it's a guess at best. None of the single pistons I've ever flown had the ability. The the only a/c I flew that could dump was the Blanik L-13, (the water ballast tank)."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #585 November 19, 2013 Quote All jet aircraft use Halon, a deadly, ozone-depleting chemical in their engines. So do many datacenters... Its for putting out fires. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #586 November 19, 2013 Then why were always forced out during Halon dumps? and why did we find dead rats under the raised decking afterwards???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #587 November 19, 2013 normiss Then why were always forced out during Halon dumps? and why did we find dead rats under the raised decking afterwards???? It's quite obvious. The damn rats were chewing thru the fuel lines so they were using Halon to kill them. Duh."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #588 November 19, 2013 Halon... "deadly"... lolwut Any gas is deadly if you run out of O2... Halon is also great to use to extinguish fires on expensive/rare cars since it doesn't leave residue and cause additional damage. NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #589 November 19, 2013 I knew you guys would love the Sedona one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonstark 8 #590 November 19, 2013 theonlyskiQuoteAll jet aircraft use Halon, a deadly, ozone-depleting chemical in their engines. So do many datacenters... Its for putting out fires. All jets CARRY halon for fires. It is VERY seldom used and then only in an emergency. There are NO jets of the class that can use Sedona that have fuel jettison systems. The intentional attempt to inflame issues by misinformation makes their efforts even more distasteful to the knowledgeable but plays well with the wuffos. Assholes! jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bakerjan 0 #591 November 19, 2013 normissI am under the impression not that many aircraft flying these days actually have the ability to dump fuel. I would expect even fewer piston aircraft using LL have that capability, but it's a guess at best. Correct me if im wrong, but isn't the joke that no one jettisons fuel AFTER takeoff to deal with high density altitude, meaning these people are so clueless about basic physics. Jan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #592 November 19, 2013 normissI am under the impression not that many aircraft flying these days actually have the ability to dump fuel. I would expect even fewer piston aircraft using LL have that capability, but it's a guess at best. I normally carry a water bottle of 100LL in my Citabria just so I can dump it and feel like a real pilot in case of an emergency."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #593 November 19, 2013 Ron ***I am under the impression not that many aircraft flying these days actually have the ability to dump fuel. I would expect even fewer piston aircraft using LL have that capability, but it's a guess at best. I normally carry a water bottle of 100LL in my Citabria just so I can dump it and feel like a real pilot in case of an emergency. THAT'S what those bottles are for?? I thought they were for the long cross countries... Guess ya learn something new every day."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 52 #594 November 19, 2013 theonlyski ******I am under the impression not that many aircraft flying these days actually have the ability to dump fuel. I would expect even fewer piston aircraft using LL have that capability, but it's a guess at best. I normally carry a water bottle of 100LL in my Citabria just so I can dump it and feel like a real pilot in case of an emergency. THAT'S what those bottles are for?? I thought they were for the long cross countries... Guess ya learn something new every day. OK, I'll admit it, I've dumped pee out of a Citabria. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #595 November 19, 2013 oldwomanc6 *********I am under the impression not that many aircraft flying these days actually have the ability to dump fuel. I would expect even fewer piston aircraft using LL have that capability, but it's a guess at best. I normally carry a water bottle of 100LL in my Citabria just so I can dump it and feel like a real pilot in case of an emergency. THAT'S what those bottles are for?? I thought they were for the long cross countries... Guess ya learn something new every day. OK, I'll admit it, I've dumped pee out of a Citabria. I thought about peeing under canopy once during a cross country, but realised my airspeed would make it hit me. Phew.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #596 November 19, 2013 Hey Gibby.... It's me, Skyjumpenfool. You know, one of the guys on your "Threat List". I have only two words for you.... Blue Rain!! Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #597 November 19, 2013 do a one-handed blind-man and let it rip!NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boogers 0 #598 November 19, 2013 ryoder ***As an amusing aside, the first link has a claim that jets have trouble taking off from the Sedona airport due to high density altitudes - so they dump fuel right _after_ takeoff. But they have proof the a/c are dumping; They can *smell* it!I don't see how they can smell the jet fuel outside with all the cat crap and piss on their carpet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boogers 0 #599 November 19, 2013 Quote I thought about peeing under canopy once during a cross country, but realised my airspeed would make it hit me. Phew. That's why you have to spin around and face backwards first. So you use one hand to hold your risers to maintain a backwards-facing posture, then with the other hand you unzip and pull your underwear out of the way, and then with your third hand you pull it out and aim it. Don't forget to shake before tucking it back in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #600 November 20, 2013 Boogers Quote I thought about peeing under canopy once during a cross country, but realised my airspeed would make it hit me. Phew. That's why you have to spin around and face backwards first. So you use one hand to hold your risers to maintain a backwards-facing posture, then with the other hand you unzip and pull your underwear out of the way, and then with your third hand you pull it out and aim it. Don't forget to shake before tucking it back in. Hey! Seriously, the Noise Nazzi's from Longmount read this thread. What are they going to think of you and your potty mouth, disgusting thought process? Sorry you had to see this Gibby. Oops... Gotta go, the beer light just came on. Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites