The CHAZ thread

[turtlespeed 221]

7 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I see this much like the Occupy Wall Street fiasco.  People will soon tire of living this way and go home.

I still want to know what they were doing.

[JoeWeber 2,728]

8 minutes ago, airdvr said:

I see this much like the Occupy Wall Street fiasco.  People will soon tire of living this way and go home.

airdvr, the Occupy "fiasco" moved the ball downfield from the liberal perspective; it was too much effort for too little payoff from the conservative perspective. The problem is that social change happens too fast or too slow for most folks to grasp what is happening. Making it worse is that held views and agendas make seeing what is changing, or different, extremely difficult. It isn't just today, it's today and tomorrow. 

[turtlespeed 221]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baizuo

That pretty much describes it.

 

[timski 80]

On 6/14/2020 at 12:11 PM, wolfriverjoe said:

How horrible the pandemic was in the US compared to the rest of the world.

Massive deficits. Probable economic depression.
Russia taking over most of Eastern Europe.
China taking over much of Asia.

Iran having nukes.
Federal judges taking away the rights of the dispossessed, giving huge advantages to government and big business (not all on Trump, McConnell is behind a lot of that).

Even if he was removed tomorrow, much of this is a strong possibility. 

But hey, MAGA.

Joe, you didn't even touch base on ALL the environmental BS he's seriously destroying. 

[timski 80]

On 6/16/2020 at 1:17 PM, DJL said:

I'm curious how many of these incidents involved a person with a firearm?  I think we can all say that it is very justified for a police officer to use deadly force if a subject has a gun.  Additionally, gun ownership is barely restricted in the US considering the hodgepodge of laws from state to state.  Could it be said that the two issues go hand in hand.  Cops know that people might be armed and when the situation escalates they justifiably fear for their own lives.  Yes, I'm asking if lax gun control is a factor in our overall tendency to kill our own citizens.  Is it unrealistic to think cops operate at a heightened stress level because of the quantity of guns on the street?  This makes no excuse for the racial issues we've discussed but I think it's factor.

It's 100% a factor. Each country is unique and with it's own circumstance. So naturally the numbers will vary... Just like Covid deaths. Too soon?  

[timski 80]

On 6/18/2020 at 11:35 AM, turtlespeed said:

What is it that is going on here?

Is this a recreation of the Iwo Jima flag raising?

I take offense to this parity. Recognize my feelings dammit!  

[turtlespeed 221]

10 hours ago, timski said:

I take offense to this parity. Recognize my feelings dammit!  

Is their premise that the land they are claiming is overflowing with thrash - because that is extremely ironic.

[kallend 2,027]

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

Is their premise that the land they are claiming is overflowing with thrash - because that is extremely ironic.

Yes, they should copy big businesses and dump their toxic waste in rivers, hide it in landfills (like Love Canal) or just discharge it into the air we breath - all practices being re-invigorated by DJT.

[turtlespeed 221]

42 minutes ago, kallend said:

Yes, they should copy big businesses and dump their toxic waste in rivers, hide it in landfills (like Love Canal) or just discharge it into the air we breath - all practices being re-invigorated by DJT.

Another Donald obsessionist - JFC!

 

Should they plant their flag in it too?

 

Edited June 21, 2020 by turtlespeed

[wmw999 2,452]

Turtle, it's rational to think about the current president. A sitting president and their policies are pretty relevant to most Americans.

Wendy P.

[turtlespeed 221]

4 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Turtle, it's rational to think about the current president. A sitting president and their policies are pretty relevant to most Americans.

Wendy P.

I don't doubt that, but to insert him into every conversation is way overboard.

What could have possibly and reasonably tied the two subjects together?

Famous Iwo Jima flag planting being (assumed to be ) copied or parodied by a bunch of Baizuo?  That reminds someone, somehow of Trump?

ETA:  . . . and not just that, but further, and ties it into Trumps perceived stances on the clean water act, and the EPA.

There is a sizable gap between the two.

Making that leap requires some sort of obsession.

Edited June 21, 2020 by turtlespeed

[kallend 2,027]

7 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

 

What could have possibly and reasonably tied the two subjects together?

 

The ability to spot relationships where others cannot is a sign of superior intelligence.

Try harder and you might see the connection.

[turtlespeed 221]

Just now, kallend said:

The ability to spot relationships where others cannot is a sign of superior intelligence.

Try harder and you might see the connection.

There has to be reason to it, though, besides touting the obsession.

I am not calling into question, your intelligence.  

I'm sure you could track the butterfly effect all the way from Trump to the butterfly if you really wanted.

 

 

[kallend 2,027]

1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

There has to be reason to it, though, besides touting the obsession.

I am not calling into question, your intelligence.  

I'm sure you could track the butterfly effect all the way from Trump to the butterfly if you really wanted.

 

 

OK, so you choose not to think.  Your prerogative.

[turtlespeed 221]

4 minutes ago, kallend said:

OK, so you choose not to think.  Your prerogative.

I choose not to strive to make abstract connections just to tie Trump to something. 

[wmw999 2,452]

Presidential Derangement Syndrome can affect just about anyone -- since the inception of dz.com alone we've had three presidents, all with their own derangement syndromes. And yes, people who agree with one side will make fun of the other side (Obama Derangement Syndrome)

But Trump's lies are of commission -- ones that are easily seen to be untrue. Unlike Bush's yellowcake, and Obama's "you can keep your doctor" (no insurance company, ever, has your best interests at heart), Trump lies about stupid shit, because he wants it to be true. It'd be weird, except that he's the president.

Wendy P.

[airdvr 210]

15 hours ago, kallend said:

The ability to spot relationships where others cannot is a sign of superior intelligence.

 

Kahn!

[DJL 235]

On 6/21/2020 at 7:54 AM, turtlespeed said:

Is their premise that the land they are claiming is overflowing with thrash - because that is extremely ironic.

I appreciate the iron of this.

[turtlespeed 221]

1 hour ago, DJL said:

I appreciate the iron of this.

You have a steel resolve.

[airdvr 210]

Seattle will move to dismantle ‘CHOP’ protest zone, Mayor Durkan says

Be interesting to see how this will work.

[Guest]

On 6/13/2020 at 8:58 PM, jakee said:

That must be where Markharju works now.

...you were saying...?

 

[Phil1111 1,149]

3 minutes ago, markharju said:

...you were saying...?

 

Since you hate communists so much see my Hong Kong thread.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

18 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Since you hate communists so much see my Hong Kong thread.

Yeah, funny how he's ignoring the bounty Putin put on US troops and how Trump ignored it too.

[Phil1111 1,149]

Just now, wolfriverjoe said:

Yeah, funny how he's ignoring the bounty Putin put on US troops and how Trump ignored it too.

trump supporting communists like Putin and Xi good communists. Other communists bad.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

On 7/1/2020 at 11:03 AM, markharju said:

...you were saying...?

 

What he should have done was be a good American soldier and piss on the corpse.....Right Mark?