Interesting and Timely Quote

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"A fortnight later…the party’s official mouthpiece newspaper urged the masses to “clear away the evil habits of the old society” by launching an all-out assault on “monsters and demons”…students sprung into action, setting up…divisions in classrooms and campuses across the country. By August…the mayhem was in full swing as…allies urged [the students] to destroy the “four olds” – old ideas, old customs, old habits and old culture…Schools and universities were closed and churches, shrines, libraries, shops and private homes ransacked or destroyed as the assault on…traditions began."

Anecdote: In 1967, when Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, replied: "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed communists."

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[jakee 1,563]

I'm not quite sure what's timely about the first quote.

 

About the second one, you're trying to say it's cool to kill your political enemies or what?

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You're just pretending.

#1: Communists have taken over part of a major city in the USA....duh. Elsewhere, they're defacing or destroying monuments of liberty (Lincoln Memorial, WW2 Veterans Memorial). This is what Orwell wrote about. Eradicate the past, control the present through narrative. Decades of left-wing radicalism in academia, the media and Hollyweird have finally borne the bitter fruit. The Frankfurt School is ultimately to blame. Time was when commies were (deservedly) blacklisted in Hollyweird. Now it's Republicans.

#2: Rafal Ganowicz had his country trashed by communists. He spent much of his life fighting them. I'm hoping now for a real civil war so I can start (lawfully) erasing communists the way they're trying to erase my country. See

 

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[RonD1120 62]

Selco from Bosnia-Herzegovia referred to their civil war as SHTF.

IMO, we are getting closer.

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3 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

Selco from Bosnia-Herzegovia referred to their civil war as SHTF.

IMO, we are getting closer.

I served 3-1/2 years in the Balkans, and saw the legacy of communism. It's easy to see for oneself: just go to East Berlin.

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[olofscience 489]

31 minutes ago, markharju said:

It's easy to see for oneself

This is about as credible as your claim that there are no churches in Edinburgh any more and it's being overrun by mosques.

44 minutes ago, markharju said:

I'm hoping now for a real civil war

You should probably check if your tin-foil hat contains lead, it might be leaching out.

Edit: Joking aside, I am indeed taking you seriously, in that you are a potential terrorist e.g. shooting up mosques or peaceful demonstrations.

You're a very scared man, scared of both muslims and so-called communists, and I highly suggest you seek professional help with your mental health.

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46 minutes ago, olofscience said:

This is about as credible as your claim that there are no churches in Edinburgh any more and it's being overrun by mosques.

You should probably check if your tin-foil hat contains lead, it might be leaching out.

Edit: Joking aside, I am indeed taking you seriously, in that you are a potential terrorist e.g. shooting up mosques or peaceful demonstrations.

You're a very scared man, scared of both muslims and so-called communists, and I highly suggest you seek professional help with your mental health.

Yes, I fear them. There's plenty to fear from both. Uh, you did read the word "lawfully" - right? Yeah, there might be some lead in some commie futures, as in lead poisoning. But ONLY under color of law. As much as they might deserve it, I don't advocate fighting terror with terror, or any other form of unlawful, armed insurrection. To do so makes me no better than a thug, like they are. AND FOR THE RECORD, I MADE *** NO *** REMARKS ABOUT SHOOTING ANYONE - *** YOU DID  *** "in that you are a potential terrorist e.g. shooting up mosques or peaceful demonstrations." I know Billvon will disagree, but I believe this constitutes a personal attack. And to be sure, my credibility is sh**, but it wouldn't matter irrespective of how much proof I could provide - the pigeons will stool away anyhow (wish I had learned that lesson beforehand). Besides, anyone can go see East Berlin for themselves and make up their own minds.

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[gowlerk 2,249]

You are kind of excitable and prone to hyperbole most days. But today you have jumped the shark. 

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26 minutes ago, markharju said:

Yes, I fear them. There's plenty to fear from both. Uh, you did read the word "lawfully" - right? Yeah, there might be some lead in some commie futures, as in lead poisoning. But ONLY under color of law. As much as they might deserve it, I don't advocate fighting terror with terror, or any other form of unlawful, armed insurrection. To do so makes me no better than a thug, like they are. AND FOR THE RECORD, I MADE *** NO *** REMARKS ABOUT SHOOTING ANYONE - *** YOU DID  *** "in that you are a potential terrorist e.g. shooting up mosques or peaceful demonstrations." I know Billvon will disagree, but I believe this constitutes a personal attack. And to be sure, my credibility is sh**, but it wouldn't matter irrespective of how much proof I could provide - the pigeons will stool away anyhow. Besides, anyone can go see East Berlin for themselves and make up their own minds. It's about a three-hour drive from here.

I think that should have the word "Leader" after communist.

Just because your ideals are different, doesn't necessarily mean you should die or be killed because of them.

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9 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

You are kind of excitable and prone to hyperbole most days. But today you have jumped the shark. 

No, those commie pukes in Seattle have. I'm merely reacting. I'll readily agree that I'm overreacting, but I have neither threatened nor personally attacked anyone, unlike those thugs in Seattle.

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3 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

I think that should have the word "Leader" after communist.

Just because your ideals are different, doesn't necessarily mean you should die or be killed because of them.

A nice thought, but please see the Rafal Ganowicz  quote and the history at the top of this thread.

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2 minutes ago, markharju said:

A nice thought, but please see the Rafal Ganowicz  quote and the history at the top of this thread.

Its the premise the constitutional amendments start with.

The first amendment.

 

Unless you think there should be "Thought Police" . . .

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3 minutes ago, markharju said:

 

3 minutes ago, markharju said:

A nice thought, but please see the Rafal Ganowicz  quote and the history at the top of this thread.

Basically it quotes some guy who said the equivalent of “ the only good enemy is a dead enemy “. And you are not shy about naming the enemies you are afraid of. 

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[olofscience 489]

4 minutes ago, markharju said:

No, those commie pukes in Seattle have. I'm merely reacting. I'll readily agree that I'm overreacting, but I have neither threatened nor personally attacked anyone, unlike those thugs in Seattle.

Are you personally affected by the events in Seattle? If not, then take a deep breath, have a nice cup of tea, maybe take a walk outside if the weather is nice, and chill.

It's a lot better than wishing for a civil war, I highly recommend it.

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1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

Its the premise the constitutional amendments start with.

The first amendment.

Once again, nice thoughts, but the escalation we are witnessing can very rapidly get out of control, as with the quote at the top of this thread. I made a remark elsewhere about juvenocracy. I believe we're seeing it in action in Seattle.

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5 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

 

Basically it quotes some guy who said the equivalent of “ the only good enemy is a dead enemy “. And you are not shy about naming the enemies you are afraid of. 

No I am not. I fear the commies in Seattle, and I fear the situation escalating out of control. Socialism is a disease which poisons all it touches. Kinda like islam. Fanaticism is the enemy of all. Sure, maybe I'm being Chicken Little (This GUY is falling!), but I think it better to be an alarmist than to be dismissive and ignorant of the threats to civilization which these immoderate creeds represent. I'm not afraid to say so.

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[olofscience 489]

1 minute ago, markharju said:

can very rapidly get out of control

But it hasn't, yet.

[olofscience 489]

2 minutes ago, markharju said:

Socialism is a disease which poisons all it touches.

How? Like how homosexuality is contagious? If you say bullshit like this please back it up with:

1. a causal mechanism on how it's contagious
2. evidence, preferably peer-reviewed

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7 minutes ago, olofscience said:

Are you personally affected by the events in Seattle? If not, then take a deep breath, have a nice cup of tea, maybe take a walk outside if the weather is nice, and chill.

It's a lot better than wishing for a civil war, I highly recommend it.

Yes, as a matter of fact, I am personally affected by the events in Seattle. Still, you're right about chilling out. Agree with you totally.

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[turtlespeed 226]

8 minutes ago, markharju said:

Once again, nice thoughts, but the escalation we are witnessing can very rapidly get out of control, as with the quote at the top of this thread. I made a remark elsewhere about juvenocracy. I believe we're seeing it in action in Seattle.

Those actions are (May be) illegal, and will be dealt with with the judiciary system, if they are deemed to be so.

I think its kind of ironic that a lot the pro second amendment people are railing against the protests, which are similar to the Bundy stand off that happened.

They are doing exactly what the second amendment is for, except without a shit ton of weapons.

Relax Mark.  Its a news item - it will go away.

Most of it is the youth.  They have passions and assumptions that don't always align with the perception of logic that us older folks have.

The underlying reason for this is real and valid.

We need to reform, and perhaps, reduce the militarization of the police forces in the US.

 

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2 minutes ago, olofscience said:

How? Like how homosexuality is contagious? If you say bullshit like this please back it up with:

1. a causal mechanism on how it's contagious
2. evidence, preferably peer-reviewed

Two words...."Scientific Communism".

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Just now, markharju said:

Yes, as a matter of fact, I am. Still, you're right about chilling out. Agree with you totally.

That's great. And if it gets out of control the Oregon government has options available, and if it escalates further the Federal government (and um...Trump) can step in. But unless socialism and islam has mind-control devices included, they will spread only as quickly as any other ideology spreads.

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11 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Those actions are (May be) illegal, and will be dealt with with the judiciary system, if they are deemed to be so.

Let's hope that's the case.

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I think its kind of ironic that a lot the pro second amendment people are railing against the protests, which are similar to the Bundy stand off that happened.

***It's also the irony of how the two events have been characterized by the leftist media;  e.g., "domestic terrorism" in the Bundy case, vs "Street Fair" for Seattle

They are doing exactly what the second amendment is for, except without a shit ton of weapons.

*** Then why are the barricades to Soymalia manned by thugs with AR-15s?

Relax Mark.  Its a news item - it will go away.

*** I hope you're right, but I fear that it's just getting started.

Most of it is the youth.  They have passions and assumptions that don't always the perception of logic that us older folks have.

*** Except unlike us, they've been brainwashed by decades of Marxist dogma in the universities.

The underlying reason for this is real and valid.

We need to reform, and perhaps, reduce the militarization of the police forces in the US.

*** HELL YEAH *** Totally agree with you there. I'd have to look it up but I'm pretty sure I ranted a long time ago in Speaker's Corner about the militarization of law enforcement. I may have said something like "Soldiers acting like cops, cops acting like soldiers". I mean, what the heck does a small-town Sheriff's Department need an MRAP for? Are they expecting an invasion? Maybe they should have tanks. Nothing like panzers for intimidation. <sarcasm>

 

 

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[gowlerk 2,249]

The revolution starts now. Run and hide or stand and fight, the choice is yours. Or just rant on the interwebs like you and the rest of us always do!

[olofscience 489]

8 minutes ago, markharju said:

Two words...."Scientific Communism".

That wasn't what I asked for. I had to google that and even as a left-leaning person I don't agree with what came up.

Covid-19 is contagious - if you're next to a person who has it, you can get it because virus-laden particles get in the air or on surfaces.

I've been living next door to a muslim family for years, and have had zero desire to convert to Islam. I think your assertion that socialism is a contagious disease is also rather overreacting.

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