JoeWeber 2,720 #26 August 25, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Nabz said: Didn't even think of that and honestly didn't even know there was such a thing as AFF bandit jumps. CRAZY!! If the student was aware of that and was trying to cut corners by going to this "No Shits Given DZ " than he is to blame as well. Don't blame the student yet. Often as not what goes on in a DZ's student program isn't the subject of full disclosure. The DZ just figures the student won't ask for an instructors license and no one will ever know. Several years ago I was leasing a Caravan to a nearby DZ. Because it was my airplane someone sent me a picture of the DZO, who was a USPA AFF Evaluator doing a Level 3 AFF out of my airplane with a non-rated reserve side Instructor. I don't go for that shit so 2 hours later my airplane was back home. But for most DZO's the attitude is: not my DZ, not my problem. Edited August 25, 2020 by JoeWeber 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timski 80 #27 August 26, 2020 On 8/13/2020 at 7:08 PM, ghostdog said: Got this video from a friend and it was his AFF level 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHU20nCXdiU What do you think about his instructor?! I told him to never jump with this instructor again I'll ask, what is the motivation for posting this? If you throw people under the bus, at least give up ALL the details. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #28 November 9, 2020 On 8/18/2020 at 5:07 AM, sfzombie13 said: i would think that the affi would grab the pilot chute after two or three tries if the student were not going for silver, but am not sure how they are trained to respond. On ALL AFF jumps the instructors are prepared to pull if the student does not, and long before the student pulls the reserve. I've done it plenty of times, but never had to past a Level 4. And from the first jump they are trained "2 extra tries to find the handle, if not, pull the reserve". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #29 November 9, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 9:46 AM, Nabz said: I saw it also as a coach that panicked and was all over the place trying to save the student, Coaches are not allowed to do harness hold exits or pull for the student. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites