gowlerk 2,190 #276 October 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, airdvr said: Not really. I think the same voters who hate Trump also hate Barrett and vice versa. Awful hard to believe there is an undecided voter as of this morning. It may affect some of the senate races is more what I was thinking of. The courts have long been more important to R voters than to D voters. This event may change that somewhat and have a longer term effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #277 October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, airdvr said: Not really. I think the same voters who hate Trump also hate Barrett and vice versa. Awful hard to believe there is an undecided voter as of this morning. While that may be true to a degree, there are 'more than a few' voters who don't like Trump but absolutely hate abortion rights. With the SC appointment rammed through, those people no longer have any reason to vote for Trump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #278 October 28, 2020 12 hours ago, billeisele said: Barrett has said she will rule based on the law. lol, what else is she going to say? seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phantomII 37 #279 October 28, 2020 That Mitch Mcconnell called Justice Barrett a political asset, speaks volumes of the republican view of your judicial system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #280 October 29, 2020 11 hours ago, phantomII said: That Mitch Mcconnell called Justice Barrett a political asset, speaks volumes of the republican view of your judicial system. Just because Pelosi didn't say it doesn't mean she doesn't have that same view. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #281 October 29, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Just because Pelosi didn't say it doesn't mean she doesn't have that same view. So now what you're imagining someone might have thought (but have no evidence for) is somehow a legitimate point of discussion?? Why do you even bother posting this utter nonsense? Edited October 29, 2020 by yoink 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #282 October 29, 2020 39 minutes ago, yoink said: So now what you're imagining someone might have thought (but have no evidence for) is somehow a legitimate point of discussion?? Why do you even bother posting this utter nonsense? 'Cuz it makes you respond. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #283 October 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, yoink said: So now what you're imagining someone might have thought (but have no evidence for) is somehow a legitimate point of discussion?? Why do you even bother posting this utter nonsense? Trolling is a thankless job, but apparently, someone needs to do it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #284 October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: 'Cuz it makes you respond. And not only that, but he gets quoted and that leads to me accidentally reading the drivel. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #285 October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, gowlerk said: And not only that, but he gets quoted and that leads to me accidentally reading the drivel. Oh yeah... 'Cuz by trolling people into quoting him, he gets around the 'ignore' function. I forgot about that part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #286 October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, wolfriverjoe said: Oh yeah... 'Cuz by trolling people into quoting him, he gets around the 'ignore' function. I forgot about that part. Until the Mod's stop engaging him it's life as we know it. Maybe it's time for a couple of immoderators. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #287 October 29, 2020 I had a moment of weakness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #288 October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, yoink said: I had a moment of weakness. You are forgiven, my son. Say 10 Hail Kamala's and 15 Our Biden's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #289 October 29, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Until the Mod's stop engaging him it's life as we know it. Wendy knows him personally I believe. Like, in real life where apparently he has friends and a much less annoying personality. Online can be deceiving at times. Things look different when you are at a keyboard typing at mostly strangers in The Matrix. Edited October 29, 2020 by gowlerk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #290 October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Wendy knows him personally I believe. Like, in real life where apparently he has friends and a much less annoying personality. Online can be deceiving at times. Things look different when you are at a keyboard typing at mostly strangers in The Matrix. Then she should recuse herself :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #291 November 5, 2020 I hope you guys can stop with all of this “power grab” nonsense now that the election is over and things would have played out exactly as they did before the election. Republican Senate approves Republican President’s nomination. A whole lot of panties were unnecessary bunched. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #292 November 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I hope you guys can stop with all of this “power grab” nonsense now that the election is over and things would have played out exactly as they did before the election. Republican Senate approves Republican President’s nomination. A whole lot of panties were unnecessary bunched. Except it looks like Biden will win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #293 November 5, 2020 And after January 20, 2021 Biden will be able to try to fill any vacancy on the S.C. but until then Trump is still President. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #294 November 5, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, brenthutch said: And after January 20, 2021 Biden will be able to try to fill any vacancy on the S.C. but until then Trump is still President. Of course, but the "power grab" was when the R's refused to hold hearings on the Garland nomination (10 months before the election) because "let the people decide," and then were fine with holding hearings 2 weeks ahead of this election. Edited November 5, 2020 by headoverheels Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #295 November 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, headoverheels said: Of course, but the "power grab" was when the R's refused to hold hearings on the Garland nomination (10 months before the election) because "let the people decide," and then were fine with holding hearings 2 weeks ahead of this election. No, that was not a “power grab” that was a power rightfully bestowed upon them by the electorate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #296 November 5, 2020 And all the pontificating around it, about "changing the balance of the court so very close to an election is unfair," etc -- what's the simple justification for that? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #297 November 5, 2020 56 minutes ago, brenthutch said: No, that was not a “power grab” that was a power rightfully bestowed upon them by the electorate. What's missing is whether you personally believe McConnell was wrong to deny Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland and then jam through Amy Coney-Barrett. The thing is that sort of dishonorable act is simply anathema to my way of thinking and living. I wouldn't do it nor would I support anyone who did. But time and again I hear it simply rationalized. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #298 November 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: What's missing is whether you personally believe McConnell was wrong to deny Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland and then jam through Amy Coney-Barrett. The thing is that sort of dishonorable act is simply anathema to my way of thinking and living. As far as I can tell the underlying approach of Trump and many of his supporters take to the rest of America is "fuck you." They regularly do things for no other reason that it will anger democrats and independents. That's evident in the way they talk about it - "Trump owned the libs" "oh is the special snowflake upset?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #299 November 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: What's missing is whether you personally believe McConnell was wrong to deny Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland and then jam through Amy Coney-Barrett. The thing is that sort of dishonorable act is simply anathema to my way of thinking and living. I wouldn't do it nor would I support anyone who did. But time and again I hear it simply rationalized. 13 minutes ago, billvon said: As far as I can tell the underlying approach of Trump and many of his supporters take to the rest of America is "fuck you." They regularly do things for no other reason that it will anger democrats and independents. That's evident in the way they talk about it - "Trump owned the libs" "oh is the special snowflake upset?" trump,Brent and others in the trump base have redefined politics into a new realpolitik.Whereby no prisoners are taken and no quarter is given. Accept it. While I agree with Joe in a prior post whereby he made reference to using a hammer on the GOP. The democrats need control of the senate. While the NYT is showing currently a tie in the senate 48-48. Proper address needs control of all three branches in order to educate the GOP about real, real, realpolitik. That being constitutional amendments to give equal rights to every voter. Not more rights, more power to GOP states that scam the vote, stack the courts and rule like kings. Proper address to the parade of conservative SC judges, beholden to the 1950's christian identity. The bad hand Biden has to deal with is covid, a struggling economy and voters that expect some relief from four years of trump. The bad had the GOP has to deal with is trump. Who everyone knows ain't going anywhere. The problem for the GOP is the trump cancer. His tentacles have woven themselves through the body GOP and have attacked its entire system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #300 November 5, 2020 (edited) Trump, gave voice to the disaffected and disrespected working class, the guys who work with their hands M-F, take their kids hunting and fishing, coach little league on Saturday and go to church on Sunday. Obama called them “bitter clingers” and HRC called them “irredeemable” and “a basket of deplorables” The Ds abandoned the hard hats and embraced Globalists, Antifa, BLM, illegal immigrants, snowflakes and the LGTBQABCDEVFG community. Long after Trump is gone, those guys will still be there and they will have to be reckoned with, not dismissed. Edited November 5, 2020 by brenthutch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites