Who will win the 2020 election?

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

Public information phase ongoing now.

Justice phase coming.

AG Barr story regarding no election fraud is a made up story by the AP. No source links available.

Amendment XII of the U.S. Constitution does not require that electors be chosen by popular vote. They are chosen by state legislators.

Make your calendars for 8 & 12 Dec, important dates.

If the Electoral College fails to choose the president and vice president the election then goes to the House of Representative, one state, one vote. The GOP own the states. The Senate would determine the vice president. The GOP holds the majority there as well.

There are other strategic scenarios that could come into play.

Seventy-four million or more American Patriots are angry and not giving up the fight.

Remember the U.S. Constitution is the bottom line authority.

All 74 Million are angry and patriots? Not a pretender in the bunch? It was an election, Ron. 81 Million is more than 74 Million. We win. You are no Patriot. You hate America. You despise what it is. You reject her institutions. You long for a Theocracy and you get downright giddy at the prospect of pulling down those demonic, Luciferian liberals. The idea that you think you have the ability to counsel others is truly frightening. Get used to it: you lost.

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

Public information phase ongoing now.

Justice phase coming.

AG Barr story regarding no election fraud is a made up story by the AP. No source links available.

Amendment XII of the U.S. Constitution does not require that electors be chosen by popular vote. They are chosen by state legislators.

Make your calendars for 8 & 12 Dec, important dates.

If the Electoral College fails to choose the president and vice president the election then goes to the House of Representative, one state, one vote. The GOP own the states. The Senate would determine the vice president. The GOP holds the majority there as well.

There are other strategic scenarios that could come into play.

Seventy-four million or more American Patriots are angry and not giving up the fight.

Remember the U.S. Constitution is the bottom line authority.

Thank goodness there is a professional, non-political FBI.

[ryoder 1,590]

[facepalm]

Here is the direct link, since the one above seems broken:

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1334868397721591808

 

Edited December 4, 2020 by ryoder

[jakee 1,489]

2 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

AG Barr story regarding no election fraud is a made up story by the AP. 

It's real.

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Amendment XII of the U.S. Constitution does not require that electors be chosen by popular vote. They are chosen by state legislators.

And those state legislators have made it state law that electors are chosen by popular vote. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game.

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Make your calendars for 8 & 12 Dec, important dates.

And what will you do when they have come and gone and Biden is still President-Elect?

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Seventy-four million or more American Patriots are angry and not giving up the fight.

Then seventy-four million American idiots are pissing in the wind. Eighty-one million American Patriots are waiting for them to rejoin the real world and shut the hell up.

[kallend 2,027]

Trump loses in Georgia, for the third time.

https://www.news4jax.com/vote-2020/2020/12/04/recount-finds-biden-wins-georgia-by-slightly-smaller-margin/

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

6 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

...AG Barr story regarding no election fraud is a made up story by the AP. No source links available...

 

Then why is Trump complaining that Barr didn't look very hard?

Is Trump so stupid he believes the 'fake news story'?

 

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Remember the U.S. Constitution is the bottom line authority.

Then why are Flynn and the rest of the morons demanding that Trump 'suspend the Constitution and impose Martial Law'?

Fortunately, the military leadership has made it VERY  clear that they are loyal to the country, not the idiot in the White House. And that they take their oath to "defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States" seriously.

[lippy 918]

9 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

Public information phase ongoing now.

Justice phase coming.

AG Barr story regarding no election fraud is a made up story by the AP. No source links available.

Amendment XII of the U.S. Constitution does not require that electors be chosen by popular vote. They are chosen by state legislators.

Make your calendars for 8 & 12 Dec, important dates.

If the Electoral College fails to choose the president and vice president the election then goes to the House of Representative, one state, one vote. The GOP own the states. The Senate would determine the vice president. The GOP holds the majority there as well.

There are other strategic scenarios that could come into play.

Seventy-four million or more American Patriots are angry and not giving up the fight.

Remember the U.S. Constitution is the bottom line authority.

Where are you getting this info, I thought the DS choked off the lines of communication?

[ryoder 1,590]

Giuliani's Michigan Witness Mellissa Carone Harassed, Sent Sex Videos To Boyfriend's Ex

https://www.deadlinedetroit.com/articles/26813/giuliani_s_michigan_witness_mellissa_carone_harassed_sent_sex_videos_to_boyfriend_s_ex

I'm shocked, shocked, to find this fine, upstanding witness could do such a thing!

[jakee 1,489]

42 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Giuliani's Michigan Witness Mellissa Carone Harassed, Sent Sex Videos To Boyfriend's Ex

https://www.deadlinedetroit.com/articles/26813/giuliani_s_michigan_witness_mellissa_carone_harassed_sent_sex_videos_to_boyfriend_s_ex

I'm shocked, shocked, to find this fine, upstanding witness could do such a thing!

I can only think that Giuliani wanted to roll with his 'My Cousin Vinny' idea, but he forgot that the whole point in the film was that Marissa Tomei sounded trashy but was actually the smart one. Giuliani just found someone trashy.

[ryoder 1,590]

5 minutes ago, jakee said:

I can only think that Giuliani wanted to roll with his 'My Cousin Vinny' idea, but he forgot that the whole point in the film was that Marissa Tomei sounded trashy but was actually the smart one. Giuliani just found someone trashy.

Yes, I seriously doubt Ms Carone could identify if a car had positraction, just by looking at the tire marks.

[kallend 2,027]

It's all just another money raising scam to con the suckers who contribute to the legal funds, not realizing that so much is just syphoned off to the principals' own accounts. 

The witnesses don't actually need to be credible to the courts, just to the losers and suckers.

[gowlerk 2,192]

So long. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW-HnAfUqA8

 

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

SNL cold opening.
 

Read the comments.

Among my favorites:

After all of this is over, SNL will have to actually write stuff again.

 

It's hardly satire when all of that stuff basically happened. (lots of them on that theme)

[RonD1120 62]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alito-moves-up-pennsylvanias-response-date-on-emergency-application-to-day-before-safe-harbor-deadline

Worth following.

If the USSC denies PA's Electoral Votes along with one other state, e.g. MI, GA, AZ, Biden will not have 270. Neither will President Trump; what will the next step be?

[gowlerk 2,192]

4 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alito-moves-up-pennsylvanias-response-date-on-emergency-application-to-day-before-safe-harbor-deadline

Worth following.

If the USSC denies PA's Electoral Votes along with one other state, e.g. MI, GA, AZ, Biden will not have 270. 

Yes, and if wishes were horses beggars would ride. 

[billvon 2,991]

41 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

If the USSC denies PA's Electoral Votes along with one other state, e.g. MI, GA, AZ, Biden will not have 270. Neither will President Trump; what will the next step be?

And if the USSC denies ALL the votes and gives them to Trump he'd have 538 electoral votes!  Your dream would come true!  We would no longer have a democracy; you could institute a theocracy and eliminate the abhorrent US Constitution in one fell swoop.

And perhaps the losers who actually support the US Constitution would rise up against you, and you'd have the SHTF you have been longing for.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

48 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alito-moves-up-pennsylvanias-response-date-on-emergency-application-to-day-before-safe-harbor-deadline

Worth following.

If the USSC denies PA's Electoral Votes along with one other state, e.g. MI, GA, AZ, Biden will not have 270. Neither will President Trump; what will the next step be?

Just out of curiosity, Ron...

How would you have reacted if Obama & Hillary Clinton had done anything like this?

She won the election. By 5 million votes.

It was the way the EC is set up, compounded by Republican maneuvering, that allowed Trump to win.

So if Obama had declared that HRC won, and refused to allow the transition to the incoming Trump administration, had continued to pretend the victory was fraudulent, had filed numerous lawsuits, all the same stuff Trump is doing.

What would your response have been?

[JerryBaumchen 1,363]

1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Just out of curiosity, Ron...

How would you have reacted if Obama & Hillary Clinton had done anything like this?

She won the election. By 5 million votes.

It was the way the EC is set up, compounded by Republican maneuvering, that allowed Trump to win.

So if Obama had declared that HRC won, and refused to allow the transition to the incoming Trump administration, had continued to pretend the victory was fraudulent, had filed numerous lawsuits, all the same stuff Trump is doing.

What would your response have been?

Hi Joe,

I think it would have been:  SHTF

Just sayin'

Jerry Baumchen

[olofscience 480]

31 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

I think it would have been:  SHTF

If I was a wind tunnel operator, I would be very very reluctant to sell tunnel time to Ron.

[RonD1120 62]

Instead of being angry at the messenger, you might want to pay attention to Justice Alito.

[yoink 321]

Who's angry at you?

 

You were asked a fair question - would you be behaving the same way if Obama had tried to void massive numbers of electoral votes in order to secure a win by Hillary? If he was doing EXACTLY the same things Trump is doing now?

Say yes, and I'll call you a liar.

 

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

5 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

Instead of being angry at the messenger, you might want to pay attention to Justice Alito.

What about what Alito said?

He pushed the day up a bit, which means this stuff will happen before other specific dates happen. 
From what the article said, it removes a couple of potential complications. 

Nobody quoted in the article seems to think this will change the outcome.

Trump and his minions will lose...
Again.

Another one that he's going to lose:

The Texas AG has filed suit to invalidate the election results from four other states:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/08/texas-sues-four-battleground-states-in-supreme-court-over-unlawful-election-results.html?fbclid=IwAR2rzDFwAiFKPz6LvpUwVC1oZscBWFV-oDjAKzW1pZLTNEb7qExavl2vo0Q

Election officials from those states tend to disagree. 
They've used words like 'false and irresponsible', 'publicity stunt' and 'genuinely embarrassing'. 
A couple of legal experts called it 'wacko' and 'utter garbage'. 

Of course, the Texas AG is under investigation by the FBI for abuse of power. 
Maybe he thinks that if he sucks up to Trump enough, then he can get a pardon too.

And I'm not angry at you Ron. 

I'm genuinely curious if you think that challenges to elections should be pursued no matter what?
Or only if it's when the guy you like lost.

[jakee 1,489]

45 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

Instead of being angry at the messenger, you might want to pay attention to Justice Alito.

Yes - he's moved the date up so the supreme court can tell the Trump team to fuck off in time for Pennsylvania's result to be made safe from congressional meddling.

 

When you start talking about what happens if the SC overturns multiple states' results you are not being a messenger, you are being a fantasist.

[gowlerk 2,192]

2 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

Instead of being angry at the messenger, you might want to pay attention to Justice Alito.

And....SCOTUS has spoken in a loud and clear voice. Are you done now watchman?

https://us.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/supreme-court-pennsylvania-trump-biden/index.html

[kallend 2,027]

3 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

Instead of being angry at the messenger, you might want to pay attention to Justice Alito.

Pennsylvania case tossed out by the Supremes with NO dissents.

Looks like the fat lady has sung.