JerryBaumchen 1,362 #526 November 20, 2020 Hi folks, Re: 'numbers don't lie' And, therein lies Trump's problem. https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55006188 Re: 'Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger expressed disappointment his party lost' Looks like a trend. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #527 November 20, 2020 Hi folks, Payback is a bitch. Merrick Garland Among Biden Candidates For Attorney General https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/11/20/937043662/merrick-garland-among-biden-candidates-for-attorney-general-sources-say Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #528 November 20, 2020 The Gang-That-Couldn't-Sue-Straight, cited Minnesota counties in an affidavit about Michigan: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/526926-trump-lawyers-cited-minnesota-counties-in-affidavit-about-michigan-report Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #529 November 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, ryoder said: The Gang-That-Couldn't-Sue-Straight, cited Minnesota counties in an affidavit about Michigan: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/526926-trump-lawyers-cited-minnesota-counties-in-affidavit-about-michigan-report Good thing too. While this half-arsed coup attempt seems doomed to fail, it's almost more because the people trying it are utterly incompetent than your system of government being strong enough to repel it. if Trump had ever bothered employing anyone who knew what they were doing you guys would be in serious trouble right now. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #530 November 20, 2020 More Republican Senators have COVID than have acknowledged that Joe Biden won the election. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #531 November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, jakee said: Good thing too. While this half-arsed coup attempt seems doomed to fail, it's almost more because the people trying it are utterly incompetent than your system of government being strong enough to repel it. if Trump had ever bothered employing anyone who knew what they were doing you guys would be in serious trouble right now. Hi jakee, That pretty much describes the entirety of the Trump administration. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 150 #532 November 21, 2020 5 hours ago, jakee said: Good thing too. While this half-arsed coup attempt seems doomed to fail, it's almost more because the people trying it are utterly incompetent than your system of government being strong enough to repel it. if Trump had ever bothered employing anyone who knew what they were doing you guys would be in serious trouble right now. Not much good if there is no evidence to base a case on. Its no coincidence that the "good" lawyers he had all ran for the hills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #533 November 21, 2020 On one hand, it is damaging to democracy, and to the country, by not assuring a cooperative transition to the next president. On the other hand, we get to watch Trump lose over and over and over every day, which is so much better than watching him lose just once. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #534 November 21, 2020 Good point, but I'll admit I'd sacrifice my personal desire to see him having to give "mea culpa" speeches as part of his parole to reduce the damage to the democracy. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #535 November 21, 2020 WaPo: Michigan attorney general ponders criminal probes of state and local officials who bend to Trump’s will on overturning election results https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michigan-attorney-general-canvassing-board-lawmakers/2020/11/20/87d19ce6-2b65-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #536 November 21, 2020 On 11/19/2020 at 1:29 PM, Phil1111 said: ...Mr. Trump contacted the Republican majority leader in the Michigan State Senate to issue the invitation, according to a person briefed on the invitation. It is not clear how many Michigan lawmakers will be making the trip to Washington, nor precisely what Mr. Trump plans to say to the lawmakers. The president has made few public appearances since the election and his daily schedule often has no events scheduled, despite the worsening coronavirus pandemic." Well, I'm going to guess that Trump wasn't super-duper happy with the meeting. From Heather Cox Richardson on FB: Quote ...two top Republicans in the Michigan legislature, whom Trump had invited to the White House apparently to enlist their help in overturning the vote in their state, issued a statement about what happened in their meeting with the president. Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey and Michigan Speaker of the House Lee Chatfield said they used their time with the president to press him for more money to help Michigan fight the coronavirus, which continues to rage across the country. As for the election, they said “We have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan and as legislative leaders, we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding Michigan’s electors…. Michigan’s certification process should be a deliberate process free from threats and intimidation. Allegations of fraudulent behavior should be taken seriously, thoroughly investigated, and if proven, prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And the candidates who win the most votes win elections and Michigan’s electoral votes.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 480 #537 November 21, 2020 On 11/20/2020 at 3:49 PM, ryoder said: When even Tucker Carlson is saying your conspiracy theory has no evidence, I think you failed: Where's turtle to say that Tucker Carlson is now far left? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #538 November 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, olofscience said: Where's turtle to say that Tucker Carlson is now far left? Parler? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 480 #539 November 21, 2020 Well, looks like Trump "convinced" the Michigan Republicans to do something, after all: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55030617 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #540 November 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, olofscience said: Well, looks like Trump "convinced" the Michigan Republicans to do something, after all: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55030617 Hi olof, He has convinced them to 'try something.' I seriously doubt that this is going anywhere. Just more wasted effort. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #541 November 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, olofscience said: Well, looks like Trump "convinced" the Michigan Republicans to do something, after all: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55030617 Just when I thought the republican party had reached the limit of how far they will go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #542 November 22, 2020 WaPo: In scathing opinion, federal judge dismisses Trump campaign lawsuit in Pennsylvania https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/us-judge-dismisses-trump-campaign-lawsuit-in-pa/2020/11/21/cc097fbe-2c50-11eb-9b14-ad872157ebc9_story.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #543 November 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, ryoder said: WaPo: In scathing opinion, federal judge dismisses Trump campaign lawsuit in Pennsylvania https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/us-judge-dismisses-trump-campaign-lawsuit-in-pa/2020/11/21/cc097fbe-2c50-11eb-9b14-ad872157ebc9_story.html Hi Robert, These links to anything in the WaPo are not available to us who are not subscribers. Look here: Re: 'This Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations' Trump bid to overturn election stumbles as judge tosses Pennsylvania lawsuit | Reuters Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #544 November 22, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Robert, These links to anything in the WaPo are not available to us who are not subscribers. Look here: Re: 'This Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations' Trump bid to overturn election stumbles as judge tosses Pennsylvania lawsuit | Reuters Jerry Baumchen I don't subscribe to WaPo; I just disable Javascript and reload the page, then I can read it. ETA: Here is a PDF of the judges decision: https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/gov.uscourts.pamd_.127057.202.0_1-1.pdf Edited November 22, 2020 by ryoder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #545 November 23, 2020 Pascrell legal complaints seek to disbar Giuliani, 22 Trump attorneys https://newjerseyglobe.com/congress/pascrell-legal-complaints-seek-to-disbar-giuliani-22-trump-attorneys/ That is Rep Bill Pasrell (D-NJ). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 28 #546 November 23, 2020 7 hours ago, ryoder said: Pascrell legal complaints seek to disbar Giuliani, 22 Trump attorneys https://newjerseyglobe.com/congress/pascrell-legal-complaints-seek-to-disbar-giuliani-22-trump-attorneys/ That is Rep Bill Pasrell (D-NJ). seems like a smart move Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #547 November 23, 2020 Trump campaign ditches Sidney Powell. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/22/us/politics/sidney-powell-trump.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20201123&instance_id=24380&nl=the-morning®i_id=118682468&segment_id=45216&te=1&user_id=94f58d5b96ea75e238c5bfb8bc8f5a2c Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottishJohn 25 #548 November 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Trump campaign ditches Sidney Powell. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/22/us/politics/sidney-powell-trump.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20201123&instance_id=24380&nl=the-morning®i_id=118682468&segment_id=45216&te=1&user_id=94f58d5b96ea75e238c5bfb8bc8f5a2c She should refuse to cede. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #549 November 23, 2020 36 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Trump campaign ditches Sidney Powell. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/22/us/politics/sidney-powell-trump.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20201123&instance_id=24380&nl=the-morning®i_id=118682468&segment_id=45216&te=1&user_id=94f58d5b96ea75e238c5bfb8bc8f5a2c The (loony)^2 Ms. Powell was too much even for the loony Giuliani. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #550 November 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, ScottishJohn said: She should refuse to cede. Didn't she just bring the coffee? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites