RonD1120 62 #576 November 28, 2020 "The path for President Trump to obtain enough votes in the electoral college to win re-election has now been revealed. The effort hinges on the public exposure of election fraud in hearings that began last Wednesday in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and continue next week in Arizona on Monday and Michigan on Tuesday. Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani have made clear their strategy for getting Donald Trump re-elected. They intend to present evidence of widespread election fraud that calls into question the validity of the popular vote in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. Although the public spotlight is currently focused on lawsuits that may prove in court claims about election fraud, it’s worth remembering that Presidents are not elected by the courts. In December, state legislatures will choose electors who will vote in the electoral college on December 14th. The vote of the electoral college will determine the next President." ~Dave Hayes, 27 Nov 2020 Now we wait and see how this plays out. The fat lady is about to grace the stage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #577 November 28, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: "The path for President Trump to obtain enough votes in the electoral college to win re-election has now been revealed. The effort hinges on the public exposure of election fraud in hearings that began last Wednesday in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and continue next week in Arizona on Monday and Michigan on Tuesday. Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani have made clear their strategy for getting Donald Trump re-elected. They intend to present evidence of widespread election fraud that calls into question the validity of the popular vote in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. Although the public spotlight is currently focused on lawsuits that may prove in court claims about election fraud, it’s worth remembering that Presidents are not elected by the courts. In December, state legislatures will choose electors who will vote in the electoral college on December 14th. The vote of the electoral college will determine the next President." ~Dave Hayes, 27 Nov 2020 Now we wait and see how this plays out. The fat lady is about to grace the stage. Did you know that your number of "likes", 31, is the exact number of court cases Trumps team of loonies has lost in humiliating fashion? Coincidence? Q? Makes you wonder. Edited November 28, 2020 by JoeWeber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #578 November 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: "The path for President Trump to obtain enough votes in the electoral college to win re-election has now been revealed. The effort hinges on the public exposure of election fraud in hearings that began last Wednesday in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and continue next week in Arizona on Monday and Michigan on Tuesday. Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani have made clear their strategy for getting Donald Trump re-elected. They intend to present evidence of widespread election fraud that calls into question the validity of the popular vote in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. Although the public spotlight is currently focused on lawsuits that may prove in court claims about election fraud, it’s worth remembering that Presidents are not elected by the courts. In December, state legislatures will choose electors who will vote in the electoral college on December 14th. The vote of the electoral college will determine the next President." ~Dave Hayes, 27 Nov 2020 Now we wait and see how this plays out. The fat lady is about to grace the stage. So in other words, they tried elections (which have been considered fair in the past -- what changed?), they tried the courts (fairly conservative in those states). Now the last gasp is asking the sometimes-gerrymandered state legislatures to vote their political affiliation rather than the stated voice of the people they represent. Look into the coup in Wilmington, DE sometime -- maybe that's what the Qbots can aspire to next Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #579 November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: "The path for President Trump to obtain enough votes in the electoral college to win re-election has now been revealed. The effort hinges on the public exposure of election fraud in hearings that began last Wednesday in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and continue next week in Arizona on Monday and Michigan on Tuesday. Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani have made clear their strategy for getting Donald Trump re-elected. They intend to present evidence of widespread election fraud that calls into question the validity of the popular vote in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. Although the public spotlight is currently focused on lawsuits that may prove in court claims about election fraud, it’s worth remembering that Presidents are not elected by the courts. In December, state legislatures will choose electors who will vote in the electoral college on December 14th. The vote of the electoral college will determine the next President." ~Dave Hayes, 27 Nov 2020 Now we wait and see how this plays out. The fat lady is about to grace the stage. Setting aside your hopes and prayers for just a minute, thus far, Trump's lawyers have yet to offer a scintilla of evidence of any fraud whatsoever. Trump lost fair and square, Ron. There is no evidence otherwise. Judge after judge has rejected Trump's false and unsubstantiated claims of widespread fraud. That's reality. In the absence of any fraud found, much less widespread fraud affecting millions of votes, do you really want the will of American voters rejected and overturned so as to reinstall an illegitimate Trump as President? No fraud equals illegitimate. You get that, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #580 November 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Now we wait and see how this plays out. The fat lady is about to grace the stage. You should get to work on the races for the GA senate seats and stop crying over the spilled milk. The line it is drawn The curse it is cast The slow one now Will later be fast As the present now Will later be past The order is rapidly fadin' And the first one now Will later be last For the times they are a-changin' Edited November 28, 2020 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #581 November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, RonD1120 said: "The path for President Trump ... Now we wait and see how this plays out. The fat lady is about to grace the stage. Your fat lady died of exhaustion three cases ago and the funeral is already over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #582 November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Did you know that your number of "likes", 31, is the exact number of court cases Trumps team of loonies has lost in humiliating fashion? Coincidence? Q? Makes you wonder. Well, people are saying. . . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #583 November 28, 2020 The rule of law wins Patriots stand in bright light Evil exposed, look Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #584 November 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: The rule of law wins God's law or man's law? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #585 November 28, 2020 (edited) It cost the Trump campaign approximately $20,000 for each net additional vote in the Wisconsin recount. Unfortunately for them the net increase was for Biden/Harris! Edited November 28, 2020 by kallend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #586 November 28, 2020 42 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: The rule of law wins Patriots stand in bright light Evil exposed, look So are the 'Q' channels back open or is this your personal free-style 'drop'? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #587 November 28, 2020 3 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani have made clear their strategy for getting Donald Trump re-elected. They intend to present evidence of widespread election fraud that calls into question the validity of the popular vote in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. No they don't. Every lawsuit so far has been explicitly not about fraud. That's because they don't have any evidence of fraud. If they did, they'd have sued on that basis already. Quote Now we wait and see how this plays out. The fat lady is about to grace the stage. The fat lady sang weeks ago. Just because you're sitting in the audience shouting 'lalala I can't hear you!' that hasn't changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #588 November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: The rule of law wins Patriots stand in bright light Evil exposed, look The Georgia Republican Party is aggressively telling R voters to get their mail in ballot requests ASAP and to vote absentee. Trump is saying mail in ballots are fraught with fraud. So what is a conspiracy theorist to believe? Are you voting absentee? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #589 November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: The rule of law wins So when Biden is officially confirmed by the electoral college you will state that the rule of law won, and he legally won the election? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #590 November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, lippy said: So are the 'Q' channels back open or is this your personal free-style 'drop'? Not freestyle: haiku Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #591 November 28, 2020 4 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Setting aside your hopes and prayers for just a minute, thus far, Trump's lawyers have yet to offer a scintilla of evidence of any fraud whatsoever. Trump lost fair and square, Ron. There is no evidence otherwise. Judge after judge has rejected Trump's false and unsubstantiated claims of widespread fraud. That's reality. In the absence of any fraud found, much less widespread fraud affecting millions of votes, do you really want the will of American voters rejected and overturned so as to reinstall an illegitimate Trump as President? No fraud equals illegitimate. You get that, right? Hi Joe, FIFY: 'No, fraud equals illegitimate.' Your typo caused me to read that about 4 times before I realized what I think you wanted to say. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #592 November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Joe, FIFY: 'No, fraud equals illegitimate.' Your typo caused me to read that about 4 times before I realized what I think you wanted to say. Jerry Baumchen I may have over dumbed it. I meant that if no electoral fraud is proven and Trump is reinstalled through State Legislature action then he will be an illegitimate President. Not that Ron gives a rats ass, I'm sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #593 November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, wmw999 said: Not freestyle: haiku Wendy P. Kudos! You are the first to catch it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #594 November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: Kudos! You are the first to catch it. Not really. How about answering some questions you're avoiding. Where's the fraud comes to mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #595 November 28, 2020 Giuliani to judge when under oath and liable to perjury for lying: (Federal district court in Williamsport, PA, 11/17/2020)“This is not a fraud case” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #596 November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, kallend said: Giuliani to judge when under oath and liable to perjury for lying: (Federal district court in Williamsport, PA, 11/17/2020)“This is not a fraud case” Yeah. It's kinda funny how Giuliani, Trump and all the other morons claim 'voter fraud' in front of the cameras. That they have proof and evidence that the election was fraudulent. Then, in front of a judge, where lying is a crime, they have no evidence. Almost as if all that evidence, all that proof, was just... A lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbohu 77 #597 November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said: 3 hours ago, kallend said: Giuliani to judge when under oath and liable to perjury for lying: (Federal district court in Williamsport, PA, 11/17/2020)“This is not a fraud case” Yeah. It's kinda funny how Giuliani, Trump and all the other morons claim 'voter fraud' in front of the cameras. That they have proof and evidence that the election was fraudulent. Then, in front of a judge, where lying is a crime, they have no evidence. Old game: All the crazy right-wing "news" shows pretend that they are providing real news and every single time they get sued, they claim in court, that "it's just entertainment" and "no reasonable person would take us at our word". Shows what they really think about their intended audiences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #598 November 29, 2020 10 hours ago, jakee said: So when Biden is officially confirmed by the electoral college you will state that the rule of law won, and he legally won the election? This is what I was wondering. Ron, can you ever honestly agree to an outcome of this election that doesn't select Trump? Not 'put up' with Biden - would you be able to say 'he's our legitimate and true president', and mean it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #599 November 29, 2020 47 minutes ago, yoink said: This is what I was wondering. Ron, can you ever honestly agree to an outcome of this election that doesn't select Trump? Not 'put up' with Biden - would you be able to say 'he's our legitimate and true president', and mean it? Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. , I wonder if Ron will start referring to him as Robinette? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #600 November 29, 2020 10 hours ago, gowlerk said: Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. , I wonder if Ron will start referring to him as Robinette? He'll go dark on the subject but post otherwise to continue to spread the word. He can't admit he was wrong because it would be admitting a firmly held belief was wrong. Belief in Trump, Q, Jesus etc. all come from seeking the truth instead of looking at facts and then seeing the truth. There he can never go. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites