trump's Pardons

[JoeWeber 2,720]

2 minutes ago, jakee said:

That’s an odd one. Simply planning the rally would be incredibly difficult to tie to prosecutable criminality. Even if they were running the Capitol tours for future rioters that Democrats are alleging I think successful prosecution would still be extremely unlikely.

OTOH if evidence can be found to show that they did feel the need for a pardon and asked for one, that should surely be grounds enough for immediate ethics committee hearing and for them to face a vote on expulsion from the house.

Double odd. Apparently Gosar has family members who fear he may have committed treasonous acts related to the insurrection. I'm not giving that much yet as they are reported to have decided he was a jerk before the storming of the Capitol.

[kallend 2,026]

2 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

It's reported that Arizona Republican Reps. Paul Gosar and Andy Biggs begged Trump for pardons relating to the Capitol insurrection.

Source?

[gowlerk 2,190]

1 minute ago, kallend said:

Source?

https://www.azmirror.com/blog/biggs-and-gosar-sought-pardons-for-capitol-riot-but-wont-get-them-report/

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 minute ago, kallend said:

Source?

Arizona Reps. Paul Gosar and Andy Biggs asked Trump for a pardon? Just resign now

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

2 hours ago, jakee said:

That’s an odd one. Simply planning the rally would be incredibly difficult to tie to prosecutable criminality. Even if they were running the Capitol tours for future rioters that Democrats are alleging I think successful prosecution would still be extremely unlikely.

OTOH if evidence can be found to show that they did feel the need for a pardon and asked for one, that should surely be grounds enough for immediate ethics committee hearing and for them to face a vote on expulsion from the house.

Don't be so sure.

If it can be shown that the insurrectionists were planning shenanigans, and it can be shown that those guys either were or should have been aware of those plans, and they facilitated tours of the Capitol the day before the insurrection attempt; then there's grounds for a conspiracy charge.

Whether or not the prosecutors can get a conviction is a different story, but the idea of 'throwing everything at the wall' to see what they can get them to plead guilty to is a very strong possiblity.

[ryoder 1,590]

Won't anyone show sympathy for poor Joe Exotic who was left standing there with his dick in his hand? :-(

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-exotic-no-trump-pardon-tiger-king-zoo/

[ryoder 1,590]

The official list:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-executive-grants-clemency-012021/

[phantomII 37]

As far as I know, pardons have not to be published.
So I wonder who has one in his pocket that never see the light of day unless an indictment is handed.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

5 minutes ago, phantomII said:

As far as I know, pardons have not to be published.
So I wonder who has one in his pocket that never see the light of day unless an indictment is handed.

This. Pardons just have to be delivered. Only time may tell.

[ryoder 1,590]

Trump's pardons may be poorly worded enough to leave some people on the hook

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-pardons-may-poorly-worded-231844055.html

Edited January 24, 2021 by ryoder

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 hour ago, ryoder said:

Trump's pardons may be poorly worded enough to leave some people on the hook

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-pardons-may-poorly-worded-231844055.html

If I don't make it a clicky, that's OK. If you don't it's a problem.

[ryoder 1,590]

I don't know why that didn't happen automatically. I posted it just like any other post.

Edited January 24, 2021 by ryoder

[kallend 2,026]

Trump's sale of pardons revisited:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-pardons-lobbying/2021/02/05/896f0b52-624b-11eb-9430-e7c77b5b0297_story.html