Cutaway68 4 #101 February 1, 2011 Quote Quote Moving fwd slooooowwwwwlllllyyyy. No problem, we are patient. Thanks for keeping us posted. Just as long as it's ready for the start of the season.Seriously though, progress is progress even if it is slow. Don't Pull Low... Unless You ARE!!! The pessimist says, "It can't get any worse than this." The optimist says, "Sure, it can." Be fun, have safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #102 February 5, 2011 Quote DZ work party maybe? Pizza, case of beer, some music, surprise visit from the G club down the road, finished plane! Yeah... drunk skydivers working on an airplane... THERE'S a good idea... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #103 February 6, 2011 hey now i've seen drunk skydivers accomplish a bunch of shit over the years i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vpjr 18 #104 April 8, 2011 The molds for the cowl have been built and the cowl plug is off the plane. Propeller and spinner shipped today. Ill spend next week chasing installation parts. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cutaway68 4 #105 April 8, 2011 Now there is a work of art. Don't Pull Low... Unless You ARE!!! The pessimist says, "It can't get any worse than this." The optimist says, "Sure, it can." Be fun, have safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #106 April 8, 2011 Beauty! It is even smoother than your Long-Eze. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #107 April 8, 2011 Quote It is even smoother than your Long-Eze. That's what she said Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vpjr 18 #108 April 11, 2011 PT6-20 in a 206. Ok not on a 206 yet but the next airframe and engine for conversion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #109 April 11, 2011 Quote PT6-20 in a 206. Ok not on a 206 yet but the next airframe and engine for conversion. Jr. I would rethink the placement of the new engine if I were you. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #110 April 11, 2011 Eh, what could possibly go wrong? ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #111 April 11, 2011 It looks like you went and picked up that engine in one of your U206s. I really think that these airplanes will be a big hit around the skydiving community! And I look forward to seeing one fly at my DZ someday in the not so far future! MartinExperience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #112 April 11, 2011 Man, That looks great.....smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #113 April 11, 2011 QuoteIt looks like you went and picked up that engine in one of your U206s. I really think that these airplanes will be a big hit around the skydiving community! And I look forward to seeing one fly at my DZ someday in the not so far future! I LOVE the 'can-do' attitude of hacking this together.... But I am a bit curious about the business case. A C-206 is somewhere north of $200,000. A PT-6 is also somewhere north of $200,000. Add in a big whack of labor and paperwork, and you're somewhere around $500,000. Compare that to the cost of a Porter, older Caravan, or even a PAC.... I dunno. Seems expensive for a small plane. Still, very cool...! _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #114 April 11, 2011 But think about the DZO that has a C206 that needs a new powerplant. Now it looks damn reasonable for a plane that will burn Jet A and climb like a rocket turning loads all day long. The only concern might be needing more tandem rigs because the plane will out turn the packers.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #115 April 11, 2011 QuoteBut think about the DZO that has a C206 that needs a new powerplant. Now it looks damn reasonable for a plane that will burn Jet A and climb like a rocket turning loads all day long. The only concern might be needing more tandem rigs because the plane will out turn the packers. I also really doubt that an old U206 with a ran out engine would run anywhere near $200,000. The PT6-20 as I understand is a bit obsolete coming off of old King Airs in favor of larger/newer engines. So again maybe depending on perspective reasonable cost. My guess would be that Van is just a bit more informed on the subject than I.Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skydive2 1 #116 April 11, 2011 your numbers seems a bit high. I could pick up a low time 206 with a mid time engine (resale value of $15-$20k) for under $89,000. used or overhauled -20's are not much more than that number also Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #117 April 12, 2011 Porter with -27: $750,000 Caravan well used: $800,000 PAC: $1.3+ U206: $90,000 Used PT6-20: $100,000 It could be just what a small DZ that does a lot of tandems needs. Single engine, low fuel burn, low insurance, smaller loan.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #118 April 12, 2011 QuoteA C-206 is somewhere north of $200,000. A PT-6 is also somewhere north of $200,000. I also think you're high on your numbers. A 'nice' 206, with a low time engine, and nice paint, panel, and interior might be $200k, but it would have to be real nice. A 'nice for jumping' 206, could be had for less than half of that, and if you find one with a run-out engine that drives the price down even further. In terms of the PT-6, the -20 is a 'plentiful' engine with all of the upgrade programs out there. They're pulling them off of King Airs all the time, and the upgrade companies give credit for time remaining on the -20, encouraging owners to upgrade now rather than wait until their -20's are run out. The end result is plenty of good, mid-time engines available. I think if you can put one on the ramp for $300/$400k, it would be a winner for smaller DZs. The price puts it midway between running two 182s or a Caravan. It's great way to get into a turbine for 'cheap' without the MX headaches or costs of a worn out King Air (which can also be had for $400k). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vpjr 18 #119 April 12, 2011 Your $200K prices are to high as others have stated. I could build a nice jump plane for $275K installed. $100 airframe, $60K engine $15K prop and spinner, first kits $75K, $20K installation. No problem at todays dollars. I hope to do 2/3 the work of a Caravan or Porter and cost half. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MX304 0 #120 April 12, 2011 I wonder if some of the small Alaskan cargo outfits might be interested in these as well. Any guess as to useful load? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #121 April 12, 2011 Quote Quote PT6-20 in a 206. Ok not on a 206 yet but the next airframe and engine for conversion. Jr. I would rethink the placement of the new engine if I were you. Sparky Well now hang on there just one second, Sparky. Jr. could be thinking of mounting the engine there, running a shaft up the middle of the fuselage, between the two front seats, through the MIP / firewall and clear to the front of the airplane to drive the prop. Think P-39 Airacobra. Of course, it would also necessitate some ducting trough the left and right sides of the fuselage or window behind the pilot's seat on the left and through the cargo doors on the right to port the exhaust overboard and likely an over the wing intake to bring in air for the engine to breath; likely through the area where the rear window is. This would free-up lots of space in what was the engine compartment where the Continental was for machine guns & ammo, syncro'ed to fire through the prop-arc, of course and to correct the weight and balance for removal of the recip engine too. Now where to we put the jumpers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #122 April 12, 2011 Quote Now where to we put the jumpers... Hanging on the strut... "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vpjr 18 #123 April 12, 2011 Usefull load remains the same. Cross Country fuel burns would be much higher. The main benifits to a Part 135 would be dispach reliability, lack of 100LL avgas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilot-one 0 #124 April 12, 2011 QuoteUsefull load remains the same. Cross Country fuel burns would be much higher. The main benifits to a Part 135 would be dispach reliability, lack of 100LL avgas. Exactly. I flew a Saloy 206 in Alaska for fuel reasons only. Even though it burned about 25 gal/hour nobody wants to haul AvGas to the bush. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weheka 0 #125 April 14, 2011 It's all looking good Van and all credit to you for giving it a go. I think the HP will fit well with the airframe for six sport jumpers or three Tandems. The Soloy always looked like an ideal turbine for a smaller DZ but just way too expensive. Any idea when you might have STC approval? If the aircraft performs as expected and you can keep the price in the region you have mentioned, I would say you will have trouble keeping up with demand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
