Egg on face

[brenthutch 444]

Wasn’t it just a month or so ago when a member (not me) suggested the possibility that Greenland may have some thermal activity due to its proximity to Iceland?  As I recall they were roundly mocked by some other members, who now look quite foolish.
 

“The research team discovered that the Greenland plume rose from the core-mantle boundary to the mantle transition zone beneath Greenland. The plume also has two branches in the lower mantle that feed into other plumes in the region, supplying heat to active regions in Iceland and Jan Mayen and the geothermal area in Svalbard”

http://www.tohoku.ac.jp/en/press/greenland_plume_drive_thermal_activities.html

Edited December 30, 2020 by brenthutch

[gowlerk 2,190]

 So, although Brent is on my ignore list  the thread but not the body of the message shows up. I am so glad to read that he is finally dealing with the eggs that he consistently gets all over his face.

[brenthutch 444]

BillV “They're not.  In fact the absolute closest they get is ~200 miles.  And the area that is melting most rapidly now is over 1000 miles away from Iceland.  In fact it's a lot closer to Clyde River, Canada than Iceland.  No volcanoes in Clyde River that I know of.”

CygnusX-1 “That's practically on top of each other as seen from Mars.”

gowlerk “I will assume then that you have nothing more than your feelings that this is kind of cool to go on.”

“There is mot much to discuss there. Iceland has been geologically active for a very long time. The Greenland ice sheets have started increasing their melt rate only recently.”

”What? Me smile? I just had a quick peak at Google Earth. A glance tells me that Greenland and Iceland are about as close together as New York City and Chicago are. FWIW.”

Now  who wears the egg?

 

 

 

[jakee 1,489]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

“There is mot much to discuss there. Iceland has been geologically active for a very long time. The Greenland ice sheets have started increasing their melt rate only recently.”

And you say?

[brenthutch 444]

1 hour ago, jakee said:

And you say?

 

“There is mot much to discuss there. Iceland has been geologically active for a very long time. The Greenland ice sheets have started increasing their melt rate only recently.”
 

Those are gowlerk’s words not mine. (Notice the quotation marks). 
 

More from the article:

”A team of researchers understands more about the melting of the Greenland ice sheet. They discovered a flow of hot rocks, known as a mantle plume, rising from the core-mantle boundary beneath central Greenland that melts the ice from below.”

Who could have imagined that molten rock could melt ice?  That could explain why Greenland is loosing ice while Antarctica is not. 

Edited December 30, 2020 by brenthutch

[jakee 1,489]

58 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

“There is mot much to discuss there. Iceland has been geologically active for a very long time. The Greenland ice sheets have started increasing their melt rate only recently.”
 

Those are gowlerk’s words not mine. (Notice the quotation marks). 

I know. That's why there was a question mark. What do you say to his point?

[brenthutch 444]

3 hours ago, jakee said:

I know. That's why there was a question mark. What do you say to his point?

I say the recent ice loss in Greenland coincides with the recent discovery of the “mantle plum”.  If this is in fact contributing to Greenland’s ice loss, no amount of CO2 mitigation  will effect it.

No foreseeable warming will melt the Antarctic icecap (it is many tens of degrees below freezing), the Arctic ice is floating and its melting has no effect on sea level.  That leaves Greenland.  If it’s melting is due to a rising magma chamber there is nothing we can do about it, other than to employ that Neolithic technique of adaptation.

Edited December 31, 2020 by brenthutch

[kallend 2,026]

17 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I say the recent ice loss in Greenland coincides with the recent discovery of the “mantle plum”.

So human scientist's discoveries lead to millions of tons of ice melting.

Who knew that scientists wielded so much power?

[olofscience 480]

3 minutes ago, kallend said:

So human scientist's discoveries lead to millions of tons of ice melting.

Who knew that scientists wielded so much power?

It's the same as covid-19 cases being caused by so much testing.

Also how pregnancy tests cause pregnancies. It's because we test so much.

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

 

“There is mot much to discuss there. Iceland has been geologically active for a very long time. The Greenland ice sheets have started increasing their melt rate only recently.”
 

Those are gowlerk’s words not mine. (Notice the quotation marks). 
 

More from the article:

”A team of researchers understands more about the melting of the Greenland ice sheet. They discovered a flow of hot rocks, known as a mantle plume, rising from the core-mantle boundary beneath central Greenland that melts the ice from below.”

Who could have imagined that molten rock could melt ice?  That could explain why Greenland is loosing ice while Antarctica is not. 

Greenland, Antarctica Melting Six Times Faster Than in the 1990s.  March 16, 2020

"The resulting meltwater boosted global sea levels by 0.7 inches (17.8 millimeters). Together, the melting polar ice sheets are responsible for a third of all sea level rise. Of this total sea level rise, 60 percent resulted from Greenland's ice loss and 40 percent resulted from Antarctica's....

As to what is leading to the ice loss, Antarctica's outlet glaciers are being melted by the ocean, which causes them to speed up. Whereas this accounts for the majority of Antarctica's ice loss, it accounts for half of Greenland's ice loss; the rest is caused by rising air temperatures melting the surface of its ice sheet."

mmmmm no reference to geothermal melting. Send a e-mail off to NASA. Let them know they are all dummies. "in the journal Nature from an international team of 89 polar scientists from 50 organizations, are the most comprehensive assessment to date of the changing ice sheets" All those scientists, all dummies.

I predict more egg on the face, then more moving goalposts, with a little weaseling thrown in.

[jakee 1,489]

50 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I say the recent ice loss in Greenland coincides with the recent discovery of the “mantle plum”.  If this is in fact contributing to Greenland’s ice loss, no amount of CO2 mitigation  will effect it.

The plume is newly discovered, that doesn't mean it's new.

[brenthutch 444]

1 hour ago, jakee said:

The plume is newly discovered, that doesn't mean it's new.

Doesn’t mean it’s not and given that NASA and an international team of 89 polar scientists from 50 organizations missed it, it would only follow that is is a recent phenomenon.

Edited December 31, 2020 by brenthutch

[brenthutch 444]

23 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Greenland, Antarctica Melting Six Times Faster Than in the 1990s.  March 16, 2020

mmmmm no reference to geothermal melting. Send a e-mail off to NASA. Let them know they are all dummies. "in the journal Nature from an international team of 89 polar scientists from 50 organizations, are the most comprehensive assessment to date of the changing ice sheets" All those scientists, all dummies.

Not dummies just not privy to the latest information. ( December is more recent than March)

“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.”

Mark Twain

[brenthutch 444]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

So human scientist's discoveries lead to millions of tons of ice melting.

 

I would humbly suggest that millions of tons of melting ice led to human scientists’ (is there another type?) discovery. 
(possessive plural is “s” apostrophe)

Edited December 31, 2020 by brenthutch

[jakee 1,489]

On 12/30/2020 at 10:55 PM, brenthutch said:

Doesn’t mean it’s not and given that NASA and an international team of 89 polar scientists from 50 organizations missed it, it would only follow that is is a recent phenomenon.

Is that what the scientists who discovered it say?

[timski 80]

On 12/30/2020 at 8:55 AM, brenthutch said:

Wasn’t it just a month or so ago when a member (not me) suggested the possibility that Greenland may have some thermal activity due to its proximity to Iceland?  As I recall they were roundly mocked by some other members, who now look quite foolish.
 

“The research team discovered that the Greenland plume rose from the core-mantle boundary to the mantle transition zone beneath Greenland. The plume also has two branches in the lower mantle that feed into other plumes in the region, supplying heat to active regions in Iceland and Jan Mayen and the geothermal area in Svalbard”

http://www.tohoku.ac.jp/en/press/greenland_plume_drive_thermal_activities.html

I love validation  

[timski 80]

7 minutes ago, timski said:

I love validation  

Fun filled fact, I study Volcanology, it's a passion.   

[brenthutch 444]

10 minutes ago, timski said:

Fun filled fact, I study Volcanology, it's a passion.   

Obviously your critics did not