JoeWeber 2,806 #101 January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, johnhking1 said: I don't think Trump should have been impeached a second time and not because he doesn't deserve it. He is now out of office so the reason to impeach him in that regard is moot. There is a chance that there will not be enough votes in the Senate to convict him. Trump loves attention and the impeachment will help keep him in the news. He still has a lot of supporters that may not react well. If he is not convicted, it is just like him to take advantage of that and boast " they impeached me twice and couldn't convict me so I did nothing wrong. If they take the steps to prevent him from running for president again, that looks to me that they are afraid he may run and possibly get elected. Just let him play golf in Florida, eat his big Mac's, keep him out of the news and keep your fingers crossed that he fades away. Fuck that. I want his scalp on a pole. The asshole incited insurrection against the United States of America while he was President of the United States of America. If that doesn't warrant conviction then nothing ever will so then why not lets just shred the Constitution and have a goddamn free for all for a government? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,058 #102 January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, johnhking1 said: I don't think Trump should have been impeached a second time and not because he doesn't deserve it. He is now out of office so the reason to impeach him in that regard is moot. I think there is value in penalizing people for their crimes. A future president will have an example of how attempting to overthrow an election and install himself as a dictator will fail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #103 January 27, 2021 33 minutes ago, billvon said: I think there is value in penalizing people for their crimes. A future president will have an example of how attempting to overthrow an election and install himself as a dictator will fail. I doubt Trump will actually be penalized, but at least there should be some semblance of a trial this time. Unfortunately I think the example that will be set is that there will always be enough GOP senators willing to acquit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,806 #104 January 27, 2021 51 minutes ago, billvon said: I think there is value in penalizing people for their crimes. A future president will have an example of how attempting to overthrow an election and install himself as a dictator will fail. Unless he's very, very clever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #105 January 27, 2021 59 minutes ago, billvon said: I think there is value in penalizing people for their crimes. A future president will have an example of how attempting to overthrow an election and install himself as a dictator will fail. There is one great advantage in the impeachment trial. Midterms are a lifetime away in politics. Every GOP trump traitor will be making grandiose speeches in the coming 3-4 weeks. All on tape to be replayed come election. All to be interspersed with their corporate financial enablers messaging. The Lincoln project will have a field day. It will not look good for corporate America to have their names smeared by treasonous speeches seeking to free someone who has been forgotten. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #106 January 27, 2021 38 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: There is one great advantage in the impeachment trial. Midterms are a lifetime away in politics. Every GOP trump traitor will be making grandiose speeches in the coming 3-4 weeks. All on tape to be replayed come election. All to be interspersed with their corporate financial enablers messaging. The Lincoln project will have a field day. It will not look good for corporate America to have their names smeared by treasonous speeches seeking to free someone who has been forgotten. The rub is, they’re all going to hide behind their interpretation that it is unconstitutional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phantomII 37 #107 January 27, 2021 Looks like the Trump enablers are getting back in line. Chances are rising for Trump 2024. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faicon9493 141 #108 January 27, 2021 "When a coup attempt goes unpunished, it has officially become a training exercise." - Author Unknown 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,421 #109 February 9, 2021 Hi folks, One hurdle behind us: Senate votes to approve constitutionality of Trump’s trial - POLITICO Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #110 February 10, 2021 Opening defense leave Dems silent. Trump legal team makes chilling argument, Democrats silent | One America News Network (oann.com) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,806 #111 February 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: Opening defense leave Dems silent. Trump legal team makes chilling argument, Democrats silent | One America News Network (oann.com) Agreed. Essentially they argued that they had no idea what they were there for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,556 #112 February 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: Opening defense leave Dems silent. Trump legal team makes chilling argument, Democrats silent | One America News Network (oann.com) Holy shit Ron - how radically far right do you have to be to view the Boogaloo Bois as leftists? Meanwhile, opening defense leaves Republicans saying 'what the heck was all that nonsense about?' https://time.com/5937941/republican-senators-trump-defense-impeachment/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #113 February 10, 2021 3 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Opening defense leave Dems silent. Trump legal team makes chilling argument, Democrats silent | One America News Network (oann.com) Well, of course. Putin the Poisoner is going to put the best spin possible on the 'incoherent' opening arguments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,058 #114 February 10, 2021 4 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Opening defense leave Dems silent. Trump legal team makes chilling argument, Democrats silent | One America News Network (oann.com) Yep. They were all thinking "what is he talking about?" Although "chilling" does not equal "incoherent" so OAN chose the wrong word for that headline Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,421 #115 February 10, 2021 6 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Opening defense leave Dems silent. Trump legal team makes chilling argument, Democrats silent | One America News Network (oann.com) Hi Ron, Looks like your guy did not see it that way: The former president was frustrated with the meandering arguments. Trump was quite displeased with his impeachment defense team - POLITICO Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #116 February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, billvon said: Yep. They were all thinking "what is he talking about?" Although "chilling" does not equal "incoherent" so OAN chose the wrong word for that headline OAN uses the Russian to English translation software so makes sense. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,556 #117 February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, billvon said: Yep. They were all thinking "what is he talking about?" Although "chilling" does not equal "incoherent" so OAN chose the wrong word for that headline Remember when OAN articles were just verbatim 'The President said...' quotes of Trump and his cronies? Ron said he liked them then because they just reported the facts with no opinion. Call me crazy but I might have spotted just a hint of opinion creeping its way in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faicon9493 141 #118 February 11, 2021 Maybe what we need is an amendment to the Constitution that would have presidential impeachments tried before the Supreme Court. Their appointments are for life and, in a perfect world, should be above politics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #119 February 11, 2021 I'm waiting for the Trump card to be played. It's kind'a like an orgasm. You know it's coming ya just don't know when. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,514 #120 February 11, 2021 Since the Trump card is anything that is declared as such after being presented in this "game", it'll be interesting to see how significant it is. Ron, the Kraken never came, Trump wasn't inaugurated, and 1871 wasn't the last legal inauguration. For that matter, everyone else who's tried to subvert the will of the voters isn't a patriot. Because America is defined by its rules, not by what people happen to be affected by those rules. The rule of law is above the rule of people when effected by the country. Individual people have the right to hold whatever rule they think is more important (e.g. the Rule of God), and the government can't prosecute them for their efforts or lack thereof. I am a real American. So is my genderqueer BLM-protesting friend. So is my 96-year-old Trump-supporting great aunt, and my Texas friends who span a entire range of political belief. But we all get a voice, and the rules are what they are for listening to those voices. Trump's voice is only more important in the minds of a minority of Americans. That makes it a minority voice. Wendy P. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 489 #121 February 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, RonD1120 said: You know it's coming ya just don't know when. Just like martial law that Q was talking about? That would have stoppped Biden's inauguration right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,806 #122 February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: I'm waiting for the Trump card to be played. It's kind'a like an orgasm. You know it's coming ya just don't know when. Know when or remember when? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #123 February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: I'm waiting for the Trump card to be played. It's kind'a like an orgasm. You know it's coming ya just don't know when. You still holding your breath for the Durham report? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #124 February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said: It's kind'a like an orgasm. You know it's coming ya just don't know when. You should burn in hell for just mentioning the word Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #125 February 11, 2021 3 hours ago, RonD1120 said: I'm waiting for the Trump card to be played. It's kinda like an orgasm. You know it's coming ya just don't know when. Yup. Like you're waiting for Hilary to be indicted... Or the 'tribunals' at Guantanamo Bay to begin... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
