JoeWeber 2,720 #3676 April 29, 2024 11 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: many experts Hmm... I wonder which person in the news uses that phrase? Hmm... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #3677 April 29, 2024 9 hours ago, billeisele said: So much that's occurring makes no sense. What really makes no sense is that so many people support a rapist/admitted sexual predator/adulterer/proven fraud over a decent, albeit rather boring, man. And that they are willing to believe the obvious lies (well, obvious to anyone who's been paying attention and has a modicum of critical thinking skill). 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #3678 April 29, 2024 29 minutes ago, kallend said: What really makes no sense is that so many people support a rapist/admitted sexual predator/adulterer/proven fraud over a decent, albeit rather boring, man. And that they are willing to believe the obvious lies (well, obvious to anyone who's been paying attention and has a modicum of critical thinking skill). Well, the Rs and Rupert Murdoch have done a hell of a job with their propaganda. The number of people who believe the lies they've spewed, even after Fox was found liable for them, even after Fox admitted that a 'reasonable person wouldn't believe them', is depressing. As has been pointed out in another thread, the parallels between Trump and Hitler are frightening. The parallels between Murdoch and Fox and the Nazi propaganda machine has not been made as often, but it's definitely there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #3679 April 29, 2024 10 hours ago, billeisele said: Trump is being prosecuted for things that many experts say have no basis in law. Laws against rape have no basis in law? Laws against fraud have no basis in law? Laws against interfering in elections have no basis in law? I can guarantee you that if you or I sold someone a house that we told them, in writing, was a 6000 square foot house, but was actually a 3000 square foot house, we'd be in court very shortly, and end up being fined (at best) or serving jail time (at worst.) That's the law for little people. It is actually great to see even billionaires having to obey the law. Quote Each time a new trial starts his poll numbers improve. Yep. Sadly, many conservatives like the idea of being able to sexually assault women and get away with it. Quote Then he campaigns in his off-minutes at a NY bodega and a construction site. It's as if he's becoming a symbol of the little man fighting the big man. If a billionaire rapist and fraudster who owns entire buildings and pays through the nose to suppress news stories about him banging starlets has managed to convince you that he's the "little man" - don't talk to anyone selling any bridges. Quote It appears that the Supreme Court may rule on presidential immunity causing some charges to be dropped and/or cases delayed. Yes. Trump's cronies on the corrupt Supreme Court are working to get him elected. Although I hear this time it's going to take THREE superyacht cruises to convince Clarence Thomas to support a criminal for president. So give early, give often! Quote One has to wonder if there's a group of Democrats that don't want Joe reelected and they are the ones in the background pulling the strings. Funny that. The people that are closest to Biden are his strongest supporters. The people who have worked with him, the people who have known him longest, even republicans who have fought with him speak highly of him. Christine Whitman. Meg Whitman. Colin Powell. Chuck Hagel. Even Mitt Romney. The people that are closest to Trump are now his strongest enemies. Bill Barr, Mike Pence, James Mattis, Mark Milley, John Bolton, John Kelly, Betsy DeVos, and Cassidy Hutchinson. Even his own family is now warning the country about the clear and present danger Trump presents to democracy. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,314 #3680 April 29, 2024 2 hours ago, billvon said: The people who have worked with him, the people who have known him longest, even republicans who have fought with him speak highly of him. Christine Whitman. Meg Whitman. Colin Powell. Chuck Hagel. Even Mitt Romney. https://constitutioncenter.org/go/liberty-medal-2017-remarks-from-john-mccain-and-joe-biden 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #3681 April 30, 2024 12 hours ago, BIGUN said: https://constitutioncenter.org/go/liberty-medal-2017-remarks-from-john-mccain-and-joe-biden I will say, McCain was a much clearer speaker. Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #3682 April 30, 2024 19 hours ago, billvon said: Laws against rape have no basis in law?..... The people that are closest to Trump are now his strongest enemies. Bill Barr, Mike Pence, James Mattis, Mark Milley, John Bolton, John Kelly, Betsy DeVos, and Cassidy Hutchinson. Even his own family is now warning the country about the clear and present danger Trump presents to democracy. I would add that even trump's own family never showed up to court to stand beside him to support him. Only his base, with hook and sinker hanging from their mouths. Parrot trump's flim-flam. But never-mind. Your well crafted arguments bring to mind Plato and Aristotle debating with a stone wall. The stone wall never changed either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #3683 April 30, 2024 21 hours ago, billvon said: The people that are closest to Trump are now his strongest enemies. Bill Barr, Might want to remove Barr from the list. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #3684 May 1, 2024 11 hours ago, Phil1111 said: I would add that even trump's own family never showed up to court to stand beside him to support him. Only his base, with hook and sinker hanging from their mouths. Parrot trump's flim-flam... Very few of the MAGA morons showed up. Few enough that Trumpty Dumpty lied and claimed the 'cops had closed off the streets.' While some streets are closed for security measures, it's not anywhere near completely closed off. https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/24/politics/fact-check-trump-hush-money-trial-supporters/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites