winsor 236 #426 February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, kallend said: When former Clinton national security adviser Samuel R. “Sandy” Berger removed copies of one document from the National Archives in 2003, he lost his security clearance for three years, was fined $50,000 and was sentenced to community service. What should the penalty be for removing 15 boxes of documents from the White House, and flushing others down the toilet or ripping them up? Being banned from any elective office for life would be a start. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #427 February 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, kallend said: When former Clinton national security adviser Samuel R. “Sandy” Berger removed copies of one document from the National Archives in 2003, he lost his security clearance for three years, was fined $50,000 and was sentenced to community service. What should the penalty be for removing 15 boxes of documents from the White House, and flushing others down the toilet or ripping them up? Is that question not better directed to Mitch Mcconnell? Recent news reports indicate embryonic development of a backbone. Edited February 17, 2022 by Phil1111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #428 February 17, 2022 Judge orders Trump, children to answer questions about their business practices under oath A New York judge shot down a bid to block the state attorney general's subpoenas of the former president, Donald Trump Jr. and Ivanka Trump. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #429 February 19, 2022 Trump loses fight to toss lawsuits accusing him of sparking Jan. 6 Capitol riot That's a shame. :-( 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 362 #430 February 19, 2022 I wonder if he's tired of so much winning? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #431 February 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, GeorgiaDon said: I wonder if he's tired of so much winning? Must'a been taking lessons from Charlie Sheen for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #432 February 19, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 6:15 PM, billvon said: But her emails . . . . https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-took-classified-material-white-house-florida-national-archives-says-2022-02-18/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #433 February 19, 2022 11 hours ago, kallend said: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-took-classified-material-white-house-florida-national-archives-says-2022-02-18/ Not a peep on the Putin Propaganda Broadcasting System, aka FOX. Too busy talking about Hillary. Oops, stopped talking about Clinton corruption because Hillary threatened legal action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #434 February 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Phil1111 said: Not a peep on the Putin Propaganda Broadcasting System, aka FOX. Too busy talking about Hillary. Oops, stopped talking about Clinton corruption because Hillary threatened legal action. Hi Phil, And, people do not like lawyers. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #435 February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Phil, And, people do not like lawyers. Jerry Baumchen Well as you know I can get riled about lawyers. But they can be useful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #436 February 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Phil1111 said: Not a peep on the Putin Propaganda Broadcasting System, aka FOX. Too busy talking about Hillary. Oops, stopped talking about Clinton corruption because Hillary threatened legal action. Pfft. Fox would just use the 'no rational person would take this seriously' defense... Again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #437 February 20, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 5:54 PM, wolfriverjoe said: Pfft. Fox would just use the 'no rational person would take this seriously' defense... Again. Putin up or Shuttin' up. Before Epoch Times runs with it you heard it first here: Do you think it's worth it to Putin to raid Ukraine to take the heat off of Trump? No doubt Trump would re-bomb Hiroshima if there was a 2% chance it would help. Hmm.. Inquiring Minds..... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #438 February 21, 2022 2 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Putin up or Shuttin' up. Before Epoch Times runs with it you heard it first here: Do you think it's worth it to Putin to raid Ukraine to take the heat off of Trump? No doubt Trump would re-bomb Hiroshima if there was a 2% chance it would help. Hmm.. Inquiring Minds..... I don't think Putin is doing it for Trump. International crises don't affect how a state's Attorney General does her job. Or how a civil court conducts their business. It might distract Congress some, but I don't think it would derail the Jan 6 committee's work. I don't even think it would push any real legal actions against Trump off the front page. How many Americans can pick out Ukraine on a map? Or Russia? Or any state other than Florida, Texas, California and the one they live in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #439 February 22, 2022 On 2/20/2022 at 2:37 PM, JoeWeber said: Putin up or Shuttin' up. Before Epoch Times runs with it you heard it first here: Do you think it's worth it to Putin to raid Ukraine to take the heat off of Trump? No doubt Trump would re-bomb Hiroshima if there was a 2% chance it would help. Hmm.. Inquiring Minds..... No. Putin is going to annex Ukraine one bite at a time, and nobody is going to do anything about it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #440 February 22, 2022 59 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: No. Putin is going to annex Ukraine one bite at a time, and nobody is going to do anything about it. Knock knock. Who's there? Crimea. Crimea who? Crimea a river. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #441 February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, SkyDekker said: No. Putin is going to annex Ukraine one bite at a time, and nobody is going to do anything about it. No, no, they are just sending in piece-keeping troops! You know, so Putin can keep this piece...and that piece...and that piece over there... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #442 February 22, 2022 Hubris is abandoning your allies/friends because you're strong enough not to need them this year. It's kind of like showing your superiority by treating wait staff like shit -- they say far more about you than they do about the worthiness of your friends of help We might ought to consider whom we ally with, but if we should ever need help, we'll need friends, and not just the temporary good nature of the current local bully. Wendy P. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #443 February 23, 2022 20 hours ago, SkyDekker said: No. Putin is going to annex Ukraine one bite at a time, and nobody is going to do anything about it. There’s a lesson for Canada in this. One day when the United States falls to a right wing dictatorship we are going to wish we had nuclear weapons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #444 February 23, 2022 On 2/20/2022 at 5:36 PM, wolfriverjoe said: I don't think Putin is doing it for Trump. Agreed. For Russia, it's just a nice side benefit. A US where the right wing cripples any coordinated US response to Putin is a good thing for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #445 February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, gowlerk said: There’s a lesson for Canada in this. One day when the United States falls to a right wing dictatorship we are going to wish we had nuclear weapons. That's one Genie I wish would go back in the bottle. Dr. Richard Gatling expected that his invention would make war too horrible to consider. As Rocket J. Squirrel noted, "That trick never works!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #446 February 23, 2022 47 minutes ago, billvon said: Agreed. For Russia, it's just a nice side benefit. A US where the right wing cripples any coordinated US response to Putin is a good thing for them. Republicans Support Democracy in Ukraine as Long as It Does Not Spread to U.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #447 February 24, 2022 Well, Trump thinks Putin is a 'genius' for his moves. More evidence that Trump is simply Putin's bitch.https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082478790/trump-praises-putin-as-savvy-amid-new-escalations-on-russia-ukraine-border Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #448 February 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Well, Trump thinks Putin is a 'genius' for his moves. More evidence that Trump is simply Putin's bitch. That has been obvious ever since Trump performed verbal fellatio on Putin at Helsinki. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #449 February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, ryoder said: That has been obvious ever since Trump performed verbal fellatio on Putin at Helsinki. Oh please. It was obvious when Trump welcomed the Russian press into the Oval Office while simultaneously refusing to speak to the American press. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,362 #450 February 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said: Well, Trump thinks Putin is a 'genius' for his moves. More evidence that Trump is simply Putin's bitch.https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082478790/trump-praises-putin-as-savvy-amid-new-escalations-on-russia-ukraine-border Hi Joe, According to a national news 'Breaking News' bulletin, Putin has invaded Ukraine in totality. Jerry Baumchen PS) It will be interesting to see what Trump says now. Edited February 24, 2022 by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
