ryoder 1,590 #1126 June 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: I wonder if this espionage charge, if it happens, can result in a no bail situation. It seems a simple argument to make that Trump will do or say anything to protect himself. Documents or no he was briefed on a lot of super secret stuff he might use. On the bright side: Picture yourself as a foreign adversary. Trump is telling you something, but has no documentation to back it up. Would you believe anything he is telling you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,722 #1127 June 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, ryoder said: On the bright side: Picture yourself as a foreign adversary. Trump is telling you something, but has no documentation to back it up. Would you believe anything he is telling you? Before or after I said to him "Greystone"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #1128 June 6, 2023 This is awesome! Trump is going back to "her emails! her emails!" It's oldies day on Truth Social where boomers recall their favorite hits. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #1129 June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, billvon said: This is awesome! Trump is going back to "her emails! her emails!" It's oldies day on Truth Social where boomers recall their favorite hits. The audio of him complaining after meeting with his lawyers is painful when he continually uses illeism. So much so it's creepy. I think it's telling us how convinced he is that he WILL be charged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,365 #1130 June 6, 2023 Hi folks, And, one more sees the light: New Jersey Oath Keeper who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 pleads guilty to felony charge | AP News At this rate, Trump will find it hard to get an audience for his rallies. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #1131 June 6, 2023 2 hours ago, normiss said: ... I think it's telling us how convinced he is that he WILL be charged. I think its more telling that his base is following now and will still follow post convictions. 2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, And, one more sees the light: New Jersey Oath Keeper who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 pleads guilty to felony charge | AP News At this rate, Trump will find it hard to get an audience for his rallies. Jerry Baumchen Sadly Jerry there will be a poll that still shows 30% "only trump". Indictment turbocharges Trump’s fundraising Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,365 #1132 June 6, 2023 44 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: I think its more telling that his base is following now and will still follow post convictions. Sadly Jerry there will be a poll that still shows 30% "only trump". Indictment turbocharges Trump’s fundraising Hi Phil, If my federal taxes go up so that we can build more prisons to hold these people; so be it. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #1133 June 7, 2023 6 hours ago, billvon said: This is awesome! Trump is going back to "her emails! her emails!" It's oldies day on Truth Social where boomers recall their favorite hits. Abso-fucking-lutely hilarious that his lackey was in charge of the DOJ for FOUR YEARS and never charged Hilary with anything. Almost as if she... Never committed a crime. 5 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, And, one more sees the light: New Jersey Oath Keeper who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 pleads guilty to felony charge | AP News At this rate, Trump will find it hard to get an audience for his rallies. Jerry Baumchen Well, they'll all be in prison. Maybe in the same prison. His supporters can cheer him on there. And he can ignore them there, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,722 #1134 June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said: Abso-fucking-lutely hilarious that his lackey was in charge of the DOJ for FOUR YEARS and never charged Hilary with anything. Almost as if she... Never committed a crime. Well, they'll all be in prison. Maybe in the same prison. His supporters can cheer him on there. And he can ignore them there, too. Wish on. The timeline math seems to now favor Trump even if he is indicted by the DOJ this week. Yes, the federal system is supposed to fast track a 70 day timeline but reality is that the defense can stall and delay again and again. That's Trumps specialty as everyone knows. We might be well past November 2024 before anything useful happens. I hope I'm wrong but it seems like the DOJ has taken too long on a legal timeline not just absurdly long on a common sense timeline. My hopes are now on Fani. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,365 #1135 June 7, 2023 56 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Wish on. The timeline math seems to now favor Trump even if he is indicted by the DOJ this week. Yes, the federal system is supposed to fast track a 70 day timeline but reality is that the defense can stall and delay again and again. That's Trumps specialty as everyone knows. We might be well past November 2024 before anything useful happens. I hope I'm wrong but it seems like the DOJ has taken too long on a legal timeline not just absurdly long on a common sense timeline. My hopes are now on Fani. Hi Joe, While I doubt that any of us can actually know what Trump thinks; but, I think this might just be his greatest fear. IMO it is the state courts that can do him the most damage, where he can be charged and convicted far faster than in federal court. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,722 #1136 June 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Joe, While I doubt that any of us can actually know what Trump thinks; but, I think this might just be his greatest fear. IMO it is the state courts that can do him the most damage, where he can be charged and convicted far faster than in federal court. Jerry Baumchen At this point I think it's all a lot of incompetent bullshit. If any regular guy at a bar moved on evidence like these federal prosecutors no one would ever get laid. Time to shit or get off the toilet, I think. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1137 June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: Wish on. The timeline math seems to now favor Trump even if he is indicted by the DOJ this week. Yes, the federal system is supposed to fast track a 70 day timeline but reality is that the defense can stall and delay again and again. That's Trumps specialty as everyone knows. We might be well past November 2024 before anything useful happens. I hope I'm wrong but it seems like the DOJ has taken too long on a legal timeline not just absurdly long on a common sense timeline. My hopes are now on Fani. The federal case has always been useless in my opinion. Next Republican president will just issue a pardon. Trump will just want to delay long enough that not too much damning information has come out yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,365 #1138 June 8, 2023 (edited) Hi folks, Oops: Prosecutors consider a target a person for whom there is “substantial evidence linking him or her to the commission of a crime and who, in the judgment of the prosecutor, is a putative defendant.” Trump notified that he is the target of an ongoing criminal investigation - POLITICO Well, he does like being in the spotlight. Jerry Baumchen PS) And, let us not forget that the screw is one of the six basic tools: Simple machine - Wikipedia Edited June 8, 2023 by JerryBaumchen 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 150 #1139 June 8, 2023 On 5/31/2023 at 6:27 AM, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, Another good result: she yelled at police officers to bring out the California Democrat so the mob of Donald Trump supporters could hang her. Woman who threatened Nancy Pelosi with hanging during Capitol riot gets over 2 years in prison | AP News Jerry Baumchen She got off lightly. Why are these judges going so easy on them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #1140 June 8, 2023 2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Trump notified that he is the target of an ongoing criminal investigation - POLITICO Spiro Agnew all over again. At least he's out of office, so he can't start having the Secret Service arrest prosecutors and juries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #1141 June 8, 2023 10 hours ago, obelixtim said: She got off lightly. Why are these judges going so easy on them. "McFadden( a trump appointee) has condemned the Jan. 6 riot as a “national embarrassment,” while also suggesting that the Justice Department was being too hard on those who broke into the Capitol compared with the people arrested during racial injustice protests following George Floyd’s 2020 murder." ,,," Judge: Nonviolent Jan. 6 defendants shouldn’t get ‘serious jail time’ A Trump appointee disputes that Capitol breach cases are unique, stirring a debate over how to hold individuals accountable in mass crime." When populism gets some judges into the legal system the natural outcome is a banana split. Right wing judges giving easy sentences until they can be pardoned. Independent judges recognizing the crimes for what they are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #1142 June 8, 2023 NYT: Trump Is Charged in Classified Documents Inquiry Disable Javascript to read article. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,365 #1143 June 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, ryoder said: NYT: Trump Is Charged in Classified Documents Inquiry Disable Javascript to read article. Hi Robert, Once again, in the words of the late Jackie Gleason: How sweet it is. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 319 #1144 June 9, 2023 On 5/27/2023 at 7:37 PM, JoeWeber said: This is interesting for the few of us who didn't notice: check out the white borders on these documents from Mar-a-Lago. The thing about white borders is that it means they're copies. That's what copy machines do. The original yellow document in the upper right bleeds to the border as the red bordered secret documents here also do. Apparently, according to a shit load of laws that alone is jail time for someone. Hey, Joe, Sorry, but that isn't true. All of these are just the cover sheets, and they are printed in both formats. You can also make copies of cover sheets to be sure you have one to, well, cover your classified document so it can't be seen by wandering eyes. Nothing wrong with that. Tanya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,722 #1145 June 9, 2023 45 minutes ago, TriGirl said: Hey, Joe, Sorry, but that isn't true. All of these are just the cover sheets, and they are printed in both formats. You can also make copies of cover sheets to be sure you have one to, well, cover your classified document so it can't be seen by wandering eyes. Nothing wrong with that. Tanya Thank you for getting me on track. Appreciated. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,365 #1146 June 13, 2023 Hi folks, They seem to never learn: Nauta is the latest in a series of Trump loyalists to face potential jail time Walt Nauta is the latest Trump loyalist to face potential jail time after working for him | AP News The list just keeps growing and growing. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,365 #1147 June 13, 2023 Hi folks, As I continue to say, he is his own worst enemy: E. Jean Carrollwill . . . be allowed to amend her initial 2019 lawsuit in pursuit of millions more in damages Judge lets E. Jean Carroll add Trump’s post-verdict remarks to defamation case - POLITICO Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #1148 June 17, 2023 When the attorney is as deranged as their client: WaPo: Oath Keepers attorney is found incompetent to stand trial in Jan. 6 case Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #1149 June 17, 2023 Now this is weird; Trumpanista banned from the nuclear plants where he worked, but not yet arrested. Revealed: Feds banned this violent J6er from nuclear plants — but they still haven’t arrested him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,365 #1150 June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, ryoder said: When the attorney is as deranged as their client: WaPo: Oath Keepers attorney is found incompetent to stand trial in Jan. 6 case Hi Robert, From your link: both sides searched for an inpatient hospital facility Might I suggest the nearest Grey Bar facility? Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites