Post trump Legal Actions, Including his Enablers

[BIGUN 1,409]

  On 4/30/2024 at 1:56 PM, kallend said:

Trump held in contempt by judge.  Fined $1000 for each of two violations.

Like that will make a difference. Would be like fining me $1.

It being a process crime, the next step could be jail time. 

[JoeWeber 2,826]

  On 4/30/2024 at 2:57 PM, BIGUN said:

It being a process crime, the next step could be jail time. 

Before the judge wagging his finger? Jailing him would be lovely but I'm not holding my breath. Better would be a dose of public humiliation, maybe making him stay after court for an hour or two sitting in a corner. 

[Phil1111 1,149]

  On 4/30/2024 at 2:57 PM, BIGUN said:

It being a process crime, the next step could be jail time. 

This judge isn't stupid. Everybody knows $1000 is a joke and a shot across the bow. The next step likely next week will be a $10,000 fine. Everyone knows that trump will also treat $10k as a joke. The reading of the riot act to trump will also likely have little effect.

So;

  On 4/30/2024 at 2:57 PM, BIGUN said:

... the next step could be jail time. 

 

[JoeWeber 2,826]

  On 4/30/2024 at 3:31 PM, Phil1111 said:

This judge isn't stupid. Everybody knows $1000 is a joke and a shot across the bow. The next step likely next week will be a $10,000 fine. Everyone knows that trump will also treat $10k as a joke. The reading of the riot act to trump will also likely have little effect.

So;

 

I think $1000 is the maximum per gaggle. 

[SkyDekker 1,465]

  On 4/30/2024 at 1:56 PM, kallend said:

Trump held in contempt by judge.  Fined $1000 for each of two violations.

Like that will make a difference. Would be like fining me $1.

It is the max fine under NY law. Only other option is imprisonment. I highly doubt that will ever be on the table. Two tier justice system and all.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

  On 4/30/2024 at 3:31 PM, Phil1111 said:

The next step likely next week will be a $10,000 fine

No. Not possible. Law doesn't allow for it.

[billvon 3,072]

  On 4/30/2024 at 2:57 PM, BIGUN said:

It being a process crime, the next step could be jail time. 

Not for Trump.  He gets treated differently than "little people" criminals.

[kallend 2,106]

  On 4/30/2024 at 2:48 PM, Phil1111 said:

I'd throw in some "thoughts and prayers".

A true friend.

[Phil1111 1,149]

  On 4/30/2024 at 3:52 PM, SkyDekker said:

No. Not possible. Law doesn't allow for it.

A lousy $1,000 maximum for a class E felony? Typical liberal justice system.

[JerryBaumchen 1,439]

  On 4/30/2024 at 2:57 PM, BIGUN said:

It being a process crime, the next step could be jail time. 

Hi Keith,

So it would seem:  And he warned Trump that additional violations could land him in jail.

Donald Trump held in contempt for violating gag order in New York trial - Live Updates - POLITICO

Jerry Baumchen

 

Edited April 30, 2024 by JerryBaumchen

[nigel99 569]

  On 4/30/2024 at 3:51 PM, SkyDekker said:

It is the max fine under NY law. Only other option is imprisonment. I highly doubt that will ever be on the table. Two tier justice system and all.

I’ve changed my opinion on this. Until recently I could not see the US ever putting an ex president in jail. I still think that’s the case for a longer term. However, if he continues to flout the gag order in this case, I think he will spend a short period of time.

From a purely logistical point of view handling an overnight stay for Trump in a lockup is probably not much more effort than him staying at a hotel somewhere from the secret service perspective.

[ryoder 1,590]

Another Trump stooge heading for disbarment:

‘Jeffrey Clark betrayed his oath’: Trump DOJ lawyer behind fake electors plot should be disbarred, disciplinary panel says

[kallend 2,106]

  On 5/1/2024 at 1:22 PM, ryoder said:

Another Trump stooge heading for disbarment:

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In my dyslexic speed-read I initially saw "Another Trump stooge for beheading."

I wish.

 

[JoeWeber 2,826]

  On 5/1/2024 at 2:04 PM, kallend said:

In my dyslexic speed-read I initially saw "Another Trump stooge for beheading."

I wish.

 

Well, if the Supreme Court declares complete, full, retroactive, beneficial, and fun Presidential Immunity there will be an ever so tiny bit of hope. Think positive.

[ryoder 1,590]

I hope you are sitting down for this: The company hired to audit Trump Media may have some problems:

SEC charges Trump Media auditor with ‘massive fraud’ on hundreds of companies, imposes lifetime ban

The agency, calling BF Borgers a “sham audit mill,” said the company and its owner “deliberately systematically failed to conduct” audits and quarterly reviews incorporated in more than 1,500 SEC filings from January 2021 through June 2023 in accordance with Public Company Accounting Oversight Board standards.

[kallend 2,106]

  On 5/3/2024 at 7:09 PM, ryoder said:

I hope you are sitting down for this: The company hired to audit Trump Media may have some problems:

SEC charges Trump Media auditor with ‘massive fraud’ on hundreds of companies, imposes lifetime ban

The agency, calling BF Borgers a “sham audit mill,” said the company and its owner “deliberately systematically failed to conduct” audits and quarterly reviews incorporated in more than 1,500 SEC filings from January 2021 through June 2023 in accordance with Public Company Accounting Oversight Board standards.

Birds of a feather.

Edited May 4, 2024 by kallend

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

  On 5/4/2024 at 2:33 PM, kallend said:

Birds of a feather.

Why do you think Trumpty Dumpty used them?

Do you think the stock offering would have happened if an ACCURATE audit had taken place?

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

  On 5/5/2024 at 12:24 AM, wolfriverjoe said:

Why do you think Trumpty Dumpty used them?

Do you think the stock offering would have happened if an ACCURATE audit had taken place?

Ok, my mistake.

This firm didn't do the audits before the IPO.

They were retained after the stock offering.

And then were barred from doing business.

[Phil1111 1,149]

  On 5/3/2024 at 7:09 PM, ryoder said:

I hope you are sitting down for this: The company hired to audit Trump Media may have some problems:

SEC charges Trump Media auditor with ‘massive fraud’ on hundreds of companies, imposes lifetime ban

The agency, calling BF Borgers a “sham audit mill,” said the company and its owner “deliberately systematically failed to conduct” audits and quarterly reviews incorporated in more than 1,500 SEC filings from January 2021 through June 2023 in accordance with Public Company Accounting Oversight Board standards.

Beauty, brilliant. I'd hate to see the orange fraud change his colors. Its a public service to separate trump supporters from their money.

[headoverheels 333]

  On 5/5/2024 at 1:44 PM, wolfriverjoe said:

Ok, my mistake.

This firm didn't do the audits before the IPO.

They were retained after the stock offering.

And then were barred from doing business.

 

MarketWatch says:

"The SEC did not name the firms whose filings had been affected. The firm has provided auditing services to Trump Media & Technology Group DJT, which operates the Truth Social platform, since 2022."

I have not chased it further, so have no idea which might be correct (if either)

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

  On 5/6/2024 at 9:10 AM, headoverheels said:

...I have not chased it further, so have no idea which might be correct (if either)

Fair enough.

I saw a story that said that they weren't involved in the pre-stock-offering audit.


My (limited) understanding is that those are done by firms that don't have prior association.

I've also not chased it much deeper, so I could also be wrong (and welcome correction if so).

[billvon 3,072]

Saw something on the Trump court case today and it reminded me of the beginning of one of the Austin Powers movies:

Trump: Melania, look, I never even met her!
Prosecutor: One picture of Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels posing together!
Trump: But really honey I never had sex with her.
Prosecutor: One graphic description of Donald Trump's genitals!
Trump: Look, I never paid her off.
Prosecutor: One check from Trump's lawyer to Stormy Daniels!
Trump: Yeah but I didn't pay her, he did.
Prosecutor: One check signed by Trump to pay back his lawyer for the Stormy Daniels payment!
Trump: But I just signed it.  I sign a lot of checks.  I didn't know what it was for.
Prosecutor: One quote from Trump's book stating "I always sign the checks myself so I know where the money is going!"
Trump: But it was so little money, I didn't bother to check.
Prosecutor: Another quote from Trump's book stating "I'll even deposit a check for 50 cents because every cent is worth tracking!"

[ryoder 1,590]

Barron will be devasted!

Trump Appears to Be Ditching Barron’s Graduation for a Fundraiser

[Phil1111 1,149]

  On 5/8/2024 at 11:52 PM, ryoder said:

Barron will be devasted!

Trump Appears to Be Ditching Barron’s Graduation for a Fundraiser

Nah! He'll be just like daddy.

[billvon 3,072]

  On 5/8/2024 at 11:52 PM, ryoder said:

Barron will be devasted!

Trump Appears to Be Ditching Barron’s Graduation for a Fundraiser

1) Mainstream media LIES!  He didn't miss his graduation!
2) OK so he missed it but it really means he loves America more than a phony baloney graduation.
3) Obama did it first.