murps2000 86 #2101 January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: All the difference; safety first. Thanks for the substantive reply expanding our understanding. FYI, we do not need to be like Facebook here. Forgive me. I’ve never been on Facebook so I don’t know what it’s like. I didn’t bring up shower guns first, but since they came up, and if indeed the photo was taken in a bathroom, or a kitchen for that matter, you should appreciate the irony of a missing, common household safety device, usually required by building code, next to another device possibly also intended to protect the home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #2102 January 25, 2023 6 hours ago, murps2000 said: I figured that was the vanity top, not the shower itself. Still, not a GFI outlet. You know, the NEC only requires one GFI per . . . . (just figured I'd be pedantic for, you know, the sake of ensuring everything ends up in this thread.) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #2103 January 25, 2023 41 minutes ago, billvon said: You know, the NEC only requires one GFI per . . . . (just figured I'd be pedantic for, you know, the sake of ensuring everything ends up in this thread.) The NEC doesn't require any GFI per ... They require GFCI's (just figured I'd be pedantic), and now AFCI's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #2104 January 25, 2023 Just now, headoverheels said: The NEC doesn't require any GFI per ... They require GFCI's (just figured I'd be pedantic), and now AFCI's Yeah, that's right! I hear George Santos invented them. (And they're a pain in the butt.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #2105 January 25, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 12:02 PM, Phil1111 said: Is that a gun that you own? Or a picture of one that you found online? My gun my marble counter top. You can see it here on top of some of my other guns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #2106 January 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, brenthutch said: My gun my marble counter top. You can see it here on top of some of my other guns Well i guess we have Glocks in common. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,490 #2107 January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil1111 said: Well i guess we have Glocks in common. We’ll always have Parabellum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #2108 January 26, 2023 6 hours ago, brenthutch said: My gun my marble counter top. You can see it here on top of some of my other guns No evidence of a dysfunctional gun culture there. Can't imagine why some poor soul might think their moment of fame might be in plain sight in this picture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #2109 January 26, 2023 13 hours ago, brenthutch said: My gun my marble counter top. You can see it here on top of some of my other guns I have to appreciate the mini-14 at the bottom. Back east where I grew up they used them to get rid of ground hogs in the cattle pastures. Perfect tool for that job. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #2110 January 26, 2023 10 hours ago, JoeWeber said: No evidence of a dysfunctional gun culture there. Can't imagine why some poor soul might think their moment of fame might be in plain sight in this picture. The dysfunction is in the culture not the guns. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #2111 January 26, 2023 3 hours ago, murps2000 said: I have to appreciate the mini-14 at the bottom. Back east where I grew up they used them to get rid of ground hogs in the cattle pastures. Perfect tool for that job. Agreed, the AR works fine as well and the RPR (the one in the back) will do it out to a thousand yards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #2112 January 26, 2023 Some people smoke a pack a day and live to be 100 anyway, but that's not the way the smart money votes. A gun in the shower (or home or car) is much the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #2113 January 26, 2023 6 hours ago, murps2000 said: I have to appreciate the mini-14 at the bottom. Back east where I grew up they used them to get rid of ground hogs in the cattle pastures. Perfect tool for that job. You can kill them with it but it's not perfect for if no other reason than you don't need a semi-automatic to kill ground hogs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #2114 January 26, 2023 3 hours ago, brenthutch said: The dysfunction is in the culture not the guns. And who might be responsible for that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #2115 January 26, 2023 3 hours ago, brenthutch said: The dysfunction is in the culture not the guns. Definitely. When people think they need guns to protect themselves 24/7 - when they think they need guns in the SHOWER in case they get broken into - things are broken. They have been sold a bill of goods by gun manufacturers, and that message has been reinforced by politicians who use fear to manipulate and control them. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #2116 January 26, 2023 Just now, billvon said: Definitely. When people think they need guns to protect themselves 24/7 - when they think they need guns in the SHOWER in case they get broken into - things are broken. They have been sold a bill of goods by gun manufacturers, and that message has been reinforced by politicians who use fear to manipulate and control them. It's ALWAYS something other than guns. It couldn't possibly be guns despite the biggest difference between US and other western cultures is the ready availability of guns in the US. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #2117 January 26, 2023 38 minutes ago, billvon said: Definitely. When people think they need guns to protect themselves 24/7 - when they think they need guns in the SHOWER in case they get broken into - things are broken. They have been sold a bill of goods by gun manufacturers, and that message has been reinforced by politicians who use fear to manipulate and control them. The entire problem and possible solution. In a single run on sentence.Unfortunately no solution seems to be anywhere on the horizon. So the carnage goes on and on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,193 #2118 January 26, 2023 36 minutes ago, kallend said: It's ALWAYS something other than guns. Nothing wrong with killing machines.The problem is the damned bullets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #2119 January 26, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Nothing wrong with killing machines.The problem is the damned bullets. I think they have to be close to the guns to work. I have lthousands of rounds of ammunition in my ASP (ammo supply point) and a dozen+ guns in my armory (gun safe) and although they are on the same floor there is no carnage. I hesitate to put them any closer as a mass shooting would surely result. (According to many on this forum) Edited January 26, 2023 by brenthutch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 918 #2120 January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: I hesitate to put them any closer as a mass shooting would surely result. (According to many on this forum) Nobody has said that. Several people have repeatedly made the point that the mass shooting can’t occur without them…but I guess a few more dead kids is a small price to pay for a kick-ass picture of a kitchen counter full of guns! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 480 #2121 January 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, lippy said: Nobody has said that. Brent has to rely on things nobody says in this forum to argue against. He'd lose otherwise. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #2122 January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: I have lthousands of rounds of ammunition in my ASP (ammo supply point) and a dozen+ guns in my armory (gun safe) Of course you'll claim it was a joke or an intentional libtard trigger, but it wasn't. You think that way like you were still wearing a green suit to work; your identity is your guns. Like your climate change position it works for you because it is in the face of others. Both make you feel more powerful. How you are unable to see that publicly promoting a cache of unnecessary, and frankly ridiculous, guns isn't a major part of what drives the gun culture in America is a mystery. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #2123 January 26, 2023 59 minutes ago, olofscience said: Brent has to rely on things nobody says in this forum to argue against. He'd lose otherwise. One person said it was the guns another said it was the ammo, I say it is the person pulling the trigger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #2124 January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, lippy said: Nobody has said that. Several people have repeatedly made the point that the mass shooting can’t occur without them…but I guess a few more dead kids is a small price to pay for a kick-ass picture of a kitchen counter full of guns! Hey, another school shooting/mass casualty event will really trigger the libs so they're not that bad. I mean, thoughts and prayers and all that but DAMN that really pisses off those stuck up woke libtards! Woohoo! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #2125 January 26, 2023 I decided to conduct an experiment. I brought together two deadly weapons of war, (the infamous AR-15, the AR standing for assault rifle of course) sprinkled in a few hundred rounds of military grade death bullets, I even included a few heat seeking, ultra mega capacity, ghost clips. Still waiting for something bad to happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites