jaybird18c 22 #3651 December 19, 2024 13 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Eyeroll - if guns, themselves, kill people, then pencils make their own mistakes. You wouldn’t need anything to stop SkyDekker with a gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #3652 December 19, 2024 12 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: You wouldn’t need anything to stop SkyDekker with a gun. I take it that Deckker has got under your skin a bit? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #3653 December 19, 2024 3 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: I take it that Deckker has got under your skin a bit? Nah… I’m just pointing out out that you would probably just bitch slap him and take his gun away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #3654 December 19, 2024 31 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Eyeroll - if guns, themselves, kill people, then pencils make their own mistakes. Well, you have fun with that conversation that has nothing at all to do with anything that anyone else has said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 219 #3655 December 19, 2024 34 minutes ago, jakee said: Well, you have fun with that conversation that has nothing at all to do with anything that anyone else has said. Yet spoons are relevant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #3656 December 19, 2024 56 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Nah… I’m just pointing out out that you would probably just bitch slap him and take his gun away. ok bubba 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #3657 December 19, 2024 1 minute ago, SkyDekker said: ok bubba That guy would definitely bitch slap you and take your gun away! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #3658 December 19, 2024 3 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: That guy would definitely bitch slap you and take your gun away! uhuh, for sure!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #3659 December 19, 2024 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: Yet spoons are relevant? About as relevant as any other way you've tried to defend your original point. Honestly what were you thinking when you chose that as an example of gun use that no-one could possibly argue wasn't an amazing justification for having more guns? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #3660 December 19, 2024 3 minutes ago, jakee said: About as relevant as any other way you've tried to defend your original point. Honestly what were you thinking when you chose that as an example of gun use that no-one could possibly argue wasn't an amazing justification for having more guns? A spoon can in fact be a weapon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #3661 December 19, 2024 8 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: A spoon can in fact be a weapon. You need to have that argument with the Turtle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #3662 December 19, 2024 Just now, jakee said: You need to have that argument with the Turtle. You obviously don’t understand the reality of violence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,296 #3663 December 19, 2024 3 hours ago, turtlespeed said: Eyeroll - if guns, themselves, kill people, then pencils make their own mistakes. I've heard this little parry for years. It's kind of a silly comeback, brothers. Everything is static until it becomes dynamic by human hand. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #3664 December 19, 2024 (edited) 26 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: You obviously don’t understand the reality of violence. You obviously don't understand I'm not saying a spoon isn't a weapon. I am saying they're not a deterrent against armed robbery though. If you wanna argue against that, by all means give it your best shot.... I mean vicious spooning. Edited December 19, 2024 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #3665 December 19, 2024 14 minutes ago, jakee said: You obviously don't understand I'm not saying a spoon isn't a weapon. I am saying they're not a deterrent against armed robbery though. If you wanna argue against that, by all means give it your best shot.... I mean vicious spooning. A Glock 43X in everybody’s pocket would though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #3666 December 19, 2024 2 hours ago, jaybird18c said: A spoon can in fact be a weapon. Yep. As can anything. But if you think that makes it like a gun, well . . . that's a good recipe for a lot of dead kids. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #3667 December 19, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, jaybird18c said: A Glock 43X in everybody’s pocket would though. except reality says that's not true. The USA accounts for 46% of all firearms privately owned. There are roughly 1.2 firearms per American. From the last available data I can find (2017) the US was 20th globally for Robbery Rate, higher than Canada. If you look at the list it is near impossible to see any correlation between firearm ownership and robbery rate. Edited December 19, 2024 by SkyDekker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #3668 December 19, 2024 1 hour ago, jaybird18c said: A Glock 43X in everybody’s pocket would though. The more guns, the more violence. Simple. https://rockinst.org/blog/more-guns-more-death-the-fundamental-fact-that-supports-a-comprehensive-approach-to-reducing-gun-violence-in-america/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #3669 December 19, 2024 2 hours ago, jaybird18c said: A Glock 43X in everybody’s pocket would though. The data show conclusively that both between nations, and between states in the USA, that homicide rates track gun availability very well. Having gun in the house makes it more likely that you or a family member will be killed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #3670 December 19, 2024 9 minutes ago, kallend said: The data show conclusively that both between nations, and between states in the USA, that homicide rates track gun availability very well. Having gun in the house makes it more likely that you or a family member will be killed. Unless you are special. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #3671 December 19, 2024 3 hours ago, jaybird18c said: A Glock 43X in everybody’s pocket would though. Again, you need to have that argument with the Turtle, since his video says otherwise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #3672 December 20, 2024 12 hours ago, kallend said: The data show conclusively that both between nations, and between states in the USA, that homicide rates track gun availability very well. Having gun in the house makes it more likely that you or a family member will be killed. 12 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Unless you are special. Have you ever met a gun owner who didn't think of themselves as "special"? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #3673 December 20, 2024 1 hour ago, kallend said: Have you ever met a gun owner who didn't think of themselves as "special"? They're generally as good with their guns as young canopy pilots are with their canopies. As in the more they actually practice, the better they are, and the more they can just show how good they are, rather than having to talk about it. However, the fatalities with canopies are (almost) always only the pilot. Doesn't necessarily work that way with guns. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 219 #3674 December 20, 2024 20 hours ago, jakee said: About as relevant as any other way you've tried to defend your original point. Honestly what were you thinking when you chose that as an example of gun use that no-one could possibly argue wasn't an amazing justification for having more guns? Having guns is not a bad thing. The lack of education is. Tell me something - why is gun viloence so much more prevalent in democrat run cities? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 219 #3675 December 20, 2024 19 hours ago, BIGUN said: I've heard this little parry for years. It's kind of a silly comeback, brothers. Everything is static until it becomes dynamic by human hand. Agreed - even the spoons he intejected into the conversation. Hence the eye roll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites