More sacrifices to the 2nd Amendment

[billvon 2,989]

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

Having guns is not a bad thing.

The lack of education is.

Yep.  But people like you are sure they are well educated.   In looking through BillyVance's posts - he thought the same.

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Tell me something - why is gun viloence so much more prevalent in democrat run cities?

Let's see.  Most violent cities in the country:

1) Memphis - in a red state
2) St Louis - in a red state
3) Little Rock - in a red state

I see a pattern here.

[NewGuy2005 53]

21 hours ago, jaybird18c said:

A Glock 43X in everybody’s pocket would though.

That may be true, but a Glock in every pocket would create another set of problems.

[NewGuy2005 53]

20 minutes ago, billvon said:

Yep.  But people like you are sure they are well educated.   In looking through BillyVance's posts - he thought the same.

Let's see.  Most violent cities in the country:

1) Memphis - in a red state
2) St Louis - in a red state
3) Little Rock - in a red state

I see a pattern here.

MY red state!!

[kallend 2,026]

2 hours ago, billvon said:

Yep.  But people like you are sure they are well educated.   In looking through BillyVance's posts - he thought the same.

Let's see.  Most violent cities in the country:

1) Memphis - in a red state
2) St Louis - in a red state
3) Little Rock - in a red state

I see a pattern here.

Before some gun nut brings up Chicago as usual, it comes in at #20 on the list (per capita) in 2023.  Chicago's violent crime rate is only 52% of St. Louis's

[kallend 2,026]

4 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

 

Tell me something - why is gun viloence so much more prevalent in democrat run cities?

If you bothered to check your facts before making a post here you would look a lot less foolish.

[JerryBaumchen 1,354]

7 minutes ago, kallend said:

If you bothered to check your facts before making a post here you would look a lot less foolish.

Hi John,

Me thinks you ask too much.

Jerry Baumchen

[normiss 798]

24 minutes ago, kallend said:

If you bothered to check your facts before making a post here you would look a lot less foolish.

I seriously doubt that.

[nigel99 466]

3 hours ago, NewGuy2005 said:

That may be true, but a Glock in every pocket would create another set of problems.

Why does an AR15 magazine hold 30 rounds?

Because that’s the average number of kids in a classroom.

[billvon 2,989]

33 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

Why does an AR15 magazine hold 30 rounds?

Because that’s the average number of kids in a classroom.

You can't defend yourself against an entire classroom of kids without a larger magazine.  Whether it's "30-50 feral hogs" or those 30 knife-wielding toddlers with violence on their minds, high capacity magazines are the only way to keep you and your family safe.

[turtlespeed 219]

6 hours ago, billvon said:

Yep.  But people like you are sure they are well educated.   In looking through BillyVance's posts - he thought the same.

Let's see.  Most violent cities in the country:

1) Memphis - in a red state
2) St Louis - in a red state
3) Little Rock - in a red state

I see a pattern here.

A state can be red, while the city is unfortunately blue.

 

See

[turtlespeed 219]

6 hours ago, billvon said:

Yep.  But people like you are sure they are well educated.   In looking through BillyVance's posts - he thought the same.

Let's see.  Most violent cities in the country:

1) Memphis - in a red state

    https://bestneighborhood.org/conservative-vs-liberal-map-memphis-tn/

#2 is Detroit - According to the BBC

https://bestneighborhood.org/conservative-vs-liberal-map-detroit-mi/

#3 is Baltimore - 

https://bestneighborhood.org/conservative-vs-liberal-map-baltimore-md/

2) St Louis - in a red state

https://bestneighborhood.org/conservative-vs-liberal-map-st-louis-mo/

#4 is Memphis 

https://bestneighborhood.org/conservative-vs-liberal-map-memphis-tn/

I see a pattern here.

Well, you are absolutely right!

 I see a pattern here too.

[tkhayes 348]

On 12/19/2024 at 10:31 AM, turtlespeed said:

Sure - 

Take out the 5 most violent cities (All democrat run) and put them in their own category.

THEN do an average.

And that demonstrates guns make us safer?  How exactly?

[tkhayes 348]

8 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

A state can be red, while the city is unfortunately blue.

 

See

The very definition of cherry picking.  Still waiting for you to show us that guns make us safer

but yeah, keep dancing and shouting ‘squirrel!’

[kallend 2,026]

9 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Well, you are absolutely right!

 I see a pattern here too.

Thanks to Scalia et al. cities are governed by the same gun laws as their states.  

Try again with something relevant.

[BIGUN 1,296]

Simple - We don't let them liberal varmints in this har state. :)

 

[turtlespeed 219]

6 hours ago, tkhayes said:

And that demonstrates guns make us safer?  How exactly?

It demonstrates that guns are not the problem. People in certain areas and under certain government are.

[turtlespeed 219]

5 hours ago, kallend said:

Thanks to Scalia et al. cities are governed by the same gun laws as their states.  

Try again with something relevant.

That doesnt mean that those people obey the law.

You simply cannot reasonably deny the correlation and common denominator of the prominant government in those cities.

 

[olofscience 480]

1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

That doesnt mean that those people obey the law.

You didn't get the point - they meant that these cities had no choice but to follow their red states' lack of gun laws.

Doesn't matter whether the cities are democrat controlled since they can't do anything about the state law they are in.

[turtlespeed 219]

1 hour ago, olofscience said:

You didn't get the point - they meant that these cities had no choice but to follow their red states' lack of gun laws.

Doesn't matter whether the cities are democrat controlled since they can't do anything about the state law they are in.

It's cute that you think that people in democrat cities care about laws.

Have all the laws you want.  It will make no difference to those that want to do violence.

Those people are evidently more concentrated in democrat run cities.

 

[kallend 2,026]

27 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

It's cute that you think that people in democrat cities care about laws.

Have all the laws you want.  It will make no difference to those that want to do violence.

Those people are evidently more concentrated in democrat run cities.

 

There are those that want to do violence in every European country too.  However, because guns are much harder to obtain, they ALL have much lower murder rates than the USA.

Your arguments are silly, invalid, and not supported by the data.  As usual.

[tkhayes 348]

2 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

It demonstrates that guns are not the problem. People in certain areas and under certain government are.

Actually I made no claim that guns are the problem. Nor have I ever made that claim.

you have failed to answer the question. As usual. Explain to us how the gun culture, how people with guns, how America with 400 millions guns in the hands of people is safer.

or dodge the questions again

of course if you cannot answer, well, that is what I would expect. 

[tkhayes 348]

57 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

It's cute that you think that people in democrat cities care about laws.

Have all the laws you want.  It will make no difference to those that want to do violence.

Those people are evidently more concentrated in democrat run cities.

 

Yeah I mean what’s the use of having laws in a country that has a constitution, the supreme law.

another weak frail pathetic attempt at justifying abhorrent gun violence and refusing to lift a fucking finger or move one millimeter to improve the situation for your fellow americans

how very pathetic of you

so there are no laws that you support because what’s the use? No one follows them anyway?  Got it

[billvon 2,989]

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

It's cute that you think that people in democrat cities care about laws.

It's cute that you support a rapist and a felon, but clutch your pearls when you hear about those horrible lawless republican cities that have some DEMOCRATS in them!

[turtlespeed 219]

32 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

Yeah I mean what’s the use of having laws in a country that has a constitution, the supreme law.

another weak frail pathetic attempt at justifying abhorrent gun violence and refusing to lift a fucking finger or move one millimeter to improve the situation for your fellow americans

how very pathetic of you

so there are no laws that you support because what’s the use? No one follows them anyway?  Got it

You are assigning a problem in the wrong place.

Deal with the culture in those places.  Deal with the lawlessness that already exists.

Get those numbers down to a reasonable level like is had outside the city, then we'll talk.

Make it a level playing field for discussion.

Make people accountable.

 

[jaybird18c 22]

5 killed in car attack in Germany. Take away guns…still have mass killings.