More sacrifices to the 2nd Amendment

[wmw999 2,444]

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

Deal with the culture in those places.  Deal with the lawlessness that already exists.

You know what that really means -- all those ghettoes. Gotta get rid of them.

Maybe we can take the children and train them to be good Americans in special schools. Kind of like we did with the Indians.

Wendy P.

[wmw999 2,444]

4 minutes ago, jaybird18c said:

5 killed in car attack in Germany. Take away guns…still have mass killings.

A mass killing. What amateurs. Gotta get them some big boy toys.

Wendy P.

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Just now, wmw999 said:

A mass killing. What amateurs. Gotta get them some big boy toys.

Wendy P.

Are you making fun of the murders which just took place?

[turtlespeed 220]

2 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

You know what that really means -- all those ghettoes. Gotta get rid of them.

Maybe we can take the children and train them to be good Americans in special schools. Kind of like we did with the Indians.

Wendy P.

Leave it to liberals to always insert race where none was intended.

Why not make your cities better for everyone?

Why are there so many downtrodden areas in liberal cities?

SURELY its an obvious common denominator.

[wmw999 2,444]

What do you think? I mean really think, as opposed to willing to weaponize? I'm not making fun of the murders, nor sympathizing with the murderer. I'm just remembering T-shirts in the 70's saying things like "Kill them all and let God sort them out." Black humor, y'know.

Wendy P.

[wmw999 2,444]

1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

Leave it to liberals to always insert race where none was intended.

Why not make your cities better for everyone?

Why are there so many downtrodden areas in liberal cities?

SURELY its an obvious common denominator.

What large cities DON'T have downtrodden areas? It's poverty, not race. It's lack of safe housing, not race. It's the hollowing out of decent jobs that pay enough to live somewhere.

There are ghettos of all kinds (I didn't specify race, you did). 

Wendy P.

[turtlespeed 220]

Just now, wmw999 said:

What large cities DON'T have downtrodden areas? It's poverty, not race. It's lack of safe housing, not race. It's the hollowing out of decent jobs that pay enough to live somewhere.

There are ghettos of all kinds (I didn't specify race, you did). 

Wendy P.

Actually, you mentioned American Indians.

[turtlespeed 220]

1 minute ago, wmw999 said:

What large cities DON'T have downtrodden areas? It's poverty, not race. It's lack of safe housing, not race. It's the hollowing out of decent jobs that pay enough to live somewhere.

There are ghettos of all kinds (I didn't specify race, you did). 

Wendy P.

That is obviously more prevalent in liberal run cities though.

Why is that so hard to admit?  It's not like you can't measure it.

[turtlespeed 220]

4 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

 "Kill them all and let God sort them out." Black humor, y'know.

I thought that was for the Iranians that captured all the hostages.

Thats when i remember seeing that.

[billvon 2,990]

22 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Why not make your cities better for everyone?

Because education costs money that many don't want to pay.
Because gun laws are universally opposed by the right.
Because police get demonized when they stop certain sorts of rioters.
Because violence against police gets justified by Trump supporters.
Because of people like you, basically.

[wmw999 2,444]

26 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

That is obviously more prevalent in liberal run cities though.

Again, what conservative-run cities don't have any poverty or ghettos?

Wendy P.

[turtlespeed 220]

4 minutes ago, billvon said:

Because education costs money that many don't want to pay.

--That is not my position - I work indirectly for the school system.  I am in favor of higher pay for teachers and a less institutional learning environment.

Because gun laws are universally opposed by the right.

--Thats untrue.  Stupid laws and infringements are opposed.

Because police get demonized when they stop certain sorts of rioters.

--What certain sorts are you referring to?  The ones that demand the defunding of the police? 

Because violence against police gets justified by Trump supporters.

--I know of no one that justifies violence against the Police exept what I hear from the left.

Because of people like you, basically.

--I'm pretty sure you got every one of those wrong.

Try agan.

 

[turtlespeed 220]

Just now, wmw999 said:

Again, what conservative-run cities don't have any poverty or ghettos?

Wendy P.

Read what I wrote Wendy.

I said "More Prevalent" its a measurable difference.

There are more araes of poverty in a liberal city than in a conservative one.

[billvon 2,990]

1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

I'm pretty sure you got every one of those wrong.

Thank you for once again proving my point.

 

[turtlespeed 220]

1 minute ago, billvon said:

Thank you for once again proving my point.

 

Proving that you're wrong?

Not one of the things you tied to me is correct.

Edited December 21, 2024 by turtlespeed

[billvon 2,990]

11 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Not one of the things you tied to me is correct.

I'm sure you believe that.

But then again, you also believe that Trump agreed to a brilliant plan to get the US out of Afghanistan and then Biden screwed it all up.

[turtlespeed 220]

6 minutes ago, billvon said:

I'm sure you believe that.

But then again, you also believe that Trump agreed to a brilliant plan to get the US out of Afghanistan and then Biden screwed it all up.

I'm certain of it.

and don't put words in for me. I didn't say it was brilliant.  I said it was a path that kept the Taliban at the table.

What is it that you believe of those things you listed is tied to me?

 

[billvon 2,990]

4 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

I'm certain of it.

Once again, thank you for confirming my opinion.

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

Hi folks,

Re:  

I have lived in Oregon since 1942.  Who ever thinks that is a true representation of Blue vs Red here is out of their mind.

It is way too easy to find garbage on the internet.

Jerry Baumchen

[turtlespeed 220]

14 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Re:  

I have lived in Oregon since 1942.  Who ever thinks that is a true representation of Blue vs Red here is out of their mind.

It is way too easy to find garbage on the internet.

Jerry Baumchen

OK - So, now we don't trust the poll numbers?

I wouldn't ever think you would side with election deniers?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/map-trump-red-blue-counties-2024/

[turtlespeed 220]

31 minutes ago, billvon said:

Once again, thank you for confirming my opinion.

Confirming a baseless opinion? Ok - You're welcome.

[winsor 236]

15 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Again, what conservative-run cities don't have any poverty or ghettos?

Wendy P.

Zurich.

[wmw999 2,444]

Well the mayor is a Social Democrat (AKA Swiss Socialist), and Switzerland has 13% poverty. Zurich has over 12,000 people receiving welfare last year. 

Wendy P.

[olofscience 480]

On 12/21/2024 at 4:03 PM, turtlespeed said:

It's cute that you think that people in democrat cities care about laws.

Have all the laws you want.  It will make no difference to those that want to do violence.

Those people are evidently more concentrated in democrat run cities.

You're arguing against a completely different point...I was trying to explain - never mind.

 

ANYWAY, you are right that crime is more concentrated in cities.

Cities are MORE likely to be democrat. 1) they have younger populations 2) they are more likely to be more educated and skilled 3) also because of more and more varied interactions with people

Cities are MORE likely to have poor areas, because in general they're a LOT cheaper to live in compared to rural.

 

However it looks like you've never done a single study that had to control for various variables, so you're doing all your brain could handle comfortably, one variable - democrats BAD.

 

What happened to you? I seem to remember you were sharper than this 4 years ago. Did you get long COVID?

[kallend 2,026]

Interestingly life expectancy is longer in cities than in rural areas, and suicide rates are lower in cities.  One study attributed this to the greater availability of guns in rural America.