SkyDekker 1,465 #3751 December 23, 2024 5 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: You don’t believe in the defense of liberty and freedom? I don't believe you have the capacity to understand when liberty and freedom is at risk unless somebody you trust tells you that is the case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #3752 December 23, 2024 Just now, SkyDekker said: I don't believe you have the capacity to understand when liberty and freedom is at risk unless somebody you trust tells you that is the case. Good thing the foundation of my liberty doesn’t rest on your opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #3753 December 23, 2024 3 hours ago, Hissone said: So how much would say banning scary guns ( assault weapons) reduce the death and mayhem? Dude, not "scary guns" all guns. They are all scary enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #3754 December 23, 2024 Just now, gowlerk said: Dude, not "scary guns" all guns. They are all scary enough. I’m glad they’re scary to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #3755 December 23, 2024 18 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: That is because they don't have a structure like the second amendment that guarantees that right. so you agree the 2nd amendment leads to significantly higher gun crime and homicide rates. But the benefit is what exactly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #3756 December 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Good thing the foundation of my liberty doesn’t rest on your opinion. That foundation just got a whole lot shakier and you have no clue.....which proves my point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #3757 December 23, 2024 Just now, jaybird18c said: I’m glad they’re scary to you. When looking down the barrel you'll be scared too. All your weapons aren't going to help you when some has the drop on you.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #3758 December 23, 2024 1 minute ago, SkyDekker said: I don't believe you have the capacity to understand when liberty and freedom is at risk unless somebody you trust tells you that is the case. Yeah. He and all the MAGA crowd are cheering on Trumpty Dumpty as he takes away liberty and freedom from everyone else. They can't conceive that it could happen to THEM. But it will. Despots usually end up fearing everyone. I think Trumpty Dumpty, along with Elmo and the rest are FAAAAAAAAR more likely to try to take all the guns away than Obama, Biden and Harris put together. But he won't believe it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #3759 December 23, 2024 1 minute ago, SkyDekker said: so you agree the 2nd amendment leads to significantly higher gun crime and homicide rates. But the benefit is what exactly? No. Criminality leads to higher gun crime and homicide rates. The 2nd Amendment protects my right, a law abiding citizen, to keep and bear arms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #3760 December 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: That foundation just got a whole lot shakier and you have no clue.....which proves my point. You just keep on being a slave to your government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #3761 December 23, 2024 3 minutes ago, gowlerk said: When looking down the barrel you'll be scared too. All your weapons aren't going to help you when some has the drop on you.. Or I have the drop on them. That’s the point. I have that right…and ability. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #3762 December 23, 2024 Just now, jaybird18c said: Or I have the drop on them. That’s the point. I have that right…and ability. And the mentality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #3763 December 23, 2024 Just now, gowlerk said: And the mentality. You are correct. I do have the mentality. Does that scare you? I hope so. There are no gun free zones around where I live. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #3764 December 23, 2024 3 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: You just keep on being a slave to your government. As opposed to you? Buddy you have lived your entire life off the taxpayer's teat as directed by your government. Your jobs have been nothing but doing what the government tells you to do. You wouldn't know how to make it without getting a guaranteed taxpayer funded salary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #3765 December 23, 2024 1 minute ago, SkyDekker said: As opposed to you? Buddy you have lived your entire life off the taxpayer's teat as directed by your government. Your jobs have been nothing but doing what the government tells you to do. You wouldn't know how to make it without getting a guaranteed taxpayer funded salary. I’ve worked for the government and in the private sector. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #3766 December 23, 2024 "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #3767 December 23, 2024 12 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: You are correct. I do have the mentality. Does that scare you? I hope so. There are no gun free zones around where I live. No, big talkers and keyboard warriors don't scare me. Anyone who flaunts symbols like you do is obviously a poser. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #3768 December 23, 2024 Just now, gowlerk said: No, big talkers and keyboard warriors don't scare me. Anyone who flaunts symbols like you do is obviously a poser. Go on thinking that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hissone 6 #3769 December 23, 2024 1 hour ago, kallend said: QED I have trained with guns extensively for the last 30 years and trained others ( 30 years as a police officer and US Marine before that). SWAT teams CQB, competition shooting, long range shooting, lots of active shooter training. I have no idea what QED is or has to do with shooting or data gathering about shootings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #3770 December 23, 2024 1 minute ago, Hissone said: I have trained with guns extensively for the last 30 years and trained others ( 30 years as a police officer and US Marine before that). SWAT teams CQB, competition shooting, long range shooting, lots of active shooter training. I have no idea what QED is or has to do with shooting or data gathering about shootings. Because it has to do with general knowledge, not shooting things. QED is an abbreviation of the Latin phrase "quod erat demonstrandum", which is translated as "which was to be demonstrated". Means what you said demonstrated his point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #3771 December 23, 2024 5 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Because it has to do with general knowledge, not shooting things. QED is an abbreviation of the Latin phrase "quod erat demonstrandum", which is translated as "which was to be demonstrated". Means what you said demonstrated his point. Osculetur me asinum homunculum! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hissone 6 #3772 December 23, 2024 15 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Because it has to do with general knowledge, not shooting things. QED is an abbreviation of the Latin phrase "quod erat demonstrandum", which is translated as "which was to be demonstrated". Means what you said demonstrated his point. Ok so the guy who has investigated, arrested and prosecuted countless gun crimes. Is very familiar with how criminal buy sell and obtain guns and usually from where and obviously very familiar with guns and their functions. Been through countless classes on mass shootings is the least qualified to have an opinion? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #3773 December 24, 2024 3 hours ago, SkyDekker said: Because it has to do with general knowledge, not shooting things. QED is an abbreviation of the Latin phrase "quod erat demonstrandum", which is translated as "which was to be demonstrated". Means what you said demonstrated his point. But SkyDekker knows Latin… He must be very smart… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #3774 December 24, 2024 Just now, jaybird18c said: Osculetur me asinum homunculum! As usual you are all class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #3775 December 24, 2024 Just now, jaybird18c said: But SkyDekker knows Latin… He must be very smart… A fantasy laid onto a fantasy. You truly have no depth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites