Your friendly climate update

[kallend 2,026]

One of the Troll's favorite talking points debunked:

https://www.wunderground.com/video/top-stories/arctic-ice-loss-powered-2018-beast-of-the-east-snowstorm-in-europe-study-says-0

[brenthutch 444]

58 minutes ago, kallend said:

One of the Troll's favorite talking points debunked:

https://www.wunderground.com/video/top-stories/arctic-ice-loss-powered-2018-beast-of-the-east-snowstorm-in-europe-study-says-0

Doesn’t explain the extreme cold currently gripping Europe.

https://electroverse.net/european-fruit-shortage-expected/

 

[olofscience 480]

20 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Doesn’t explain the extreme cold currently gripping Europe.

https://electroverse.net/european-fruit-shortage-expected/

You can't explain much because you usually have no idea what you're talking about. Or you just make stuff up.

I'm in Europe. The cold is not extreme, it's pretty average temperatures right now.

(Of course, because the past few years have been so far ABOVE average that actually being average is less expected, except for brent crowing about how it's been colder than the past 7 years, dishonestly twisted for good measure)

[JoeWeber 2,720]

14 minutes ago, olofscience said:

You can't explain much because you usually have no idea what you're talking about. Or you just make stuff up.

I'm in Europe. The cold is not extreme, it's pretty average temperatures right now.

(Of course, because the past few years have been so far ABOVE average that actually being average is less expected, except for brent crowing about how it's been colder than the past 7 years, dishonestly twisted for good measure)

Look at me! Look at me! Mommmmm!!!!! Look at me!

[brenthutch 444]

44 minutes ago, olofscience said:

You can't explain much because you usually have no idea what you're talking about. Or you just make stuff up.

I'm in Europe. The cold is not extreme, it's pretty average temperatures right now.

(Of course, because the past few years have been so far ABOVE average that actually being average is less expected, except for brent crowing about how it's been colder than the past 7 years, dishonestly twisted for good measure)

https://electroverse.net/slovenia-suffers-coldest-april-temp-ever-belgrade-breaks-all-time-snow-record-european-winemakers-use-frost-fires-antarctic-blast-to-batter-australia/

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by brenthutch

[JoeWeber 2,720]

22 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

https://electroverse.net/slovenia-suffers-coldest-april-temp-ever-belgrade-breaks-all-time-snow-record-european-winemakers-use-frost-fires-antarctic-blast-to-batter-australia/

 

Worse that that, I'm here in the Virgin Islands where the vaseline won't melt. Folks here are begging for a little global warming. 

[Phil1111 1,149]

26 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

https://electroverse.net/slovenia-suffers-coldest-april-temp-ever-belgrade-breaks-all-time-snow-record-european-winemakers-use-frost-fires-antarctic-blast-to-batter-australia/

 

"Overall, we rate Electroverse a quackery level Pseudoscience source based on the promotion of misinformation regarding climate change that does not align with the consensus of science."

Founded in 2018, Electroverse is a news and opinion website that promotes human-influenced climate change denial. The website completely lacks transparency as there is not an about page, the contact page does not provide the location, the only author named is Cap Allon who does not provide a biography, and ownership is not disclosed.

[billvon 2,990]

2 hours ago, olofscience said:

I'm in Europe. The cold is not extreme, it's pretty average temperatures right now.

What do you know?  He heard some guy on the Internet say it's extreme!  And he has a PdF in science.

[brenthutch 444]

8 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

"Overall, we rate Electroverse a quackery level Pseudoscience source based on the promotion of misinformation regarding climate change that does not align with the consensus of science."

Founded in 2018, Electroverse is a news and opinion website that promotes human-influenced climate change denial. The website completely lacks transparency as there is not an about page, the contact page does not provide the location, the only author named is Cap Allon who does not provide a biography, and ownership is not disclosed.

You are confusing the message with the messenger......again.  Just because you don’t like who is saying something doesn’t make them wrong.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/13/australias-eastern-seaboard-gets-early-taste-of-winter-as-temperatures-plunge-below-zero

https://www.severe-weather.eu/europe-weather/extreme-cold-slovenia-damaging-frost-europe-mk/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-13/severe-frost-wave-in-france-leaves-a-trail-of-lost-crops-behind

Is that better?

 

[olofscience 480]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

Just because you don’t like who is saying something doesn’t make them wrong.

Like how making something electric or renewable automatically makes it expensive and unreliable?

[BIGUN 1,306]

3 hours ago, olofscience said:

Like how making something electric or renewable automatically makes it expensive and unreliable?

Not true. He thinks plugging in the Hoover vacuum is a contribution to cleaning the planet. 

[murps2000 86]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/05/04/noaa-new-climate-normals/%3foutputType=amp

[airdvr 210]

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

20 minutes ago, airdvr said:

 

Hi airdvr,

From the rules about posting in SC:

External text from other sources:

 Copying and pasting the words of somebody else is not a conversation. 

 At the very least, the person should make a comment in relation to the wall of text they've copied and posted so we know where the poster himself stands in relationship to it. Give it some context so you aren't simply acting as a copy and paste meat robot on behalf for some PR firm, lobbying group, or news site.

 It doesn't have to be much, but at least it gives us somebody we can converse with. We can't converse with the author of the wall of copy and pasted text, because that person simply isn't here

Jerry Baumchen

 

[airdvr 210]

Arrest me. 

[wmw999 2,444]

Warning given. It’s not hard to comment on the content  

Wendy P. 

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 hour ago, airdvr said:

Arrest me. 

Jokes on you. You've been arrested and released on bail. Well done and very well played. Thanks!

[brenthutch 444]

The pause continues 

• The United Kingdom's national temperature of 5.7°C (42.3°F) was 1.7°C (3.1°F) below the 1981–2010 average. April was colder than March for the first time since 2012 across the United Kingdom.
• Austria had its coldest April since 1997 with a temperature 2.7°C (4.9°F) below average. It was also a dry month for Austria, ranking among the eight driest Aprils on record. According to ZAMG, having a combination of a dry and cool April is very rare, occurring only three additional times since records began in 1858.
• According to Sweden's SMHI, France and Switzerland had their coldest April since 2001, while Poland, Serbia, and Hungary had their coldest April since 1997. The Netherland's April 2021 temperature was the coldest since 1986.
• Parts of western and central Europe experienced really cold temperatures during the first week of April, with several locations setting new low minimum temperatures. Of note, there were several locations across Slovenia that had their coldest April temperature in over 100 years. The weather station in Nova Vas, southern Slovenia, recorded a minimum temperature of -20.6°C (-5.1°F)—a new all-time national record for April, exceeding the previous record of -20.4°C (-4.7°F) set on April 9, 1956 at Pokljuka. Vegetation across these areas was damaged due to the really cold temperatures.

[olofscience 480]

23 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

The pause continues 

Wow, all of a sudden you're interested in Europe, why did you leave the rest of the world out? Does it not agree with your narrative?

2020 here was a scorcher, so yes this year has been a bit of a relief - but not going to start celebrating yet. Like Trump and coronavirus, and we know how that ended up.

 

PS. we know other than the first sentence you just cut-and-pasted that from somewhere, so the polite thing to do is put it in a quote.

[brenthutch 444]

1 hour ago, olofscience said:

Wow, all of a sudden you're interested in Europe, why did you leave the rest of the world out? Does it not agree with your narrative?

 

“Meanwhile, near- to cooler-than-average April temperatures were present across much of North America, central Europe, parts of central Asia, Australia, and across the central and eastern tropical Pacific Ocean, and the southern oceans.”

Better?

My narrative is in good agreement with the facts: global temperatures have pretty much flatlined in the past decade and are in fact colder than they were ten years ago despite an ever increasing level of atmospheric CO2.  I am still waiting for evidence of the existential threat CO2 poses.

[airdvr 210]

On 5/11/2021 at 5:41 PM, wmw999 said:

Warning given. It’s not hard to comment on the content  

Wendy P. 

Hard to believe anyone here would wonder what side of the fence I was on with that vid.

[olofscience 480]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

My narrative is in good agreement with the facts: global temperatures have pretty much flatlined in the past 5 months

FIFY.

[olofscience 480]

5 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Hard to believe anyone here would wonder what side of the fence I was on with that vid.

And your lack of comment gives it as much credibility here as your medical credentials, i.e none at all.

[brenthutch 444]

5 minutes ago, olofscience said:

FIFY.

Are you claiming it is warmer now than it was five years ago?  According to NOAA our YTD temperatures come in at #8, despite record levels of CO2.

[gowlerk 2,190]

20 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Hard to believe anyone here would wonder what side of the fence I was on with that vid.

Your lack of comment means that you are leaving it up to use to spend time watching the video that you are unwilling to spend time commenting on or explaining. That is the issue people object to. It is considered bad manners. (not that there is a lack of bad manners on this forum)