JerryBaumchen 1,365 #1 Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Hi folks, Like him or not, he influenced world events. Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld Dies At 88 : NPR Jerry Baumchen Edited June 30, 2021 by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #2 June 30, 2021 “You go to great beyond with the legacy you have, not the legacy you might want or wish to have at a later time.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CygnusX-1 43 #3 July 1, 2021 That explains it. I knew there had to be a reason that the birds were singing more cheerfully this morning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #4 July 1, 2021 You have to wonder how his tenure would have turned out if it wasn't for 9/11. I thought he had a goal of streamlining the military before those events unfolded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,365 #5 July 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, DougH said: You have to wonder how his tenure would have turned out if it wasn't for 9/11. I thought he had a goal of streamlining the military before those events unfolded. Hi Doug, And Henry Kissenger thought he could streamline the State Dep't. Jerry Baumchen 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #6 July 2, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 3:50 PM, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, Like him or not, he influenced world events. Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld Dies At 88 : NPR Jerry Baumchen If nothing else, he overlooked one of the prime criteria of Project Management - define your scope. When deciding to go into some place known as 'The Graveyard of Empires' such as Afghanistan, it might be useful to clearly define A) what do we expect to accomplish? and B)_how do we know when we're done? Though we had some semblance of cassus belli for the invasion of Afghanistan, and none whatsoever for the invasion of Iraq ("We know he has Weapons of Mass Destruction - we have the receipts!"), both endeavors were exercises in cluelessness. If the goal of attacking was to bring a nation to ruin, I suppose it was a success. Unfortunately we were among the nations ruined by the adventurism. I wish we didn't insist on leading with our chin. BSBD, Winsor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #7 July 3, 2021 I almost confuse Donald Rumsfeld with Robert McNamara, every time I think of them. Seemed like top-down efficiency experts, who worked both in private industry and government. Both with documentary videos done later in life (by Errol Morris). Although as someone noted elsewhere, McNamara apparently did have doubts about his past, while Rumsfeld never conceded much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 150 #8 July 10, 2021 Gone to the great unknown unknown... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites