Woke is a Joke

[Phil1111 1,149]

33 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

As demonstrated in Post #1

At times i think winsor is vaporware because akin to the energizer bunny. He has kept this thread alive single handily for 900 posts.

[kallend 2,099]

On 12/24/2021 at 1:17 AM, winsor said:

I think this rather validates my thesis that source is valued over content.

Good for you.

I see that Alex Jones is in the news again.

[winsor 236]

24 minutes ago, kallend said:

I see that Alex Jones is in the news again.

Who?

[kallend 2,099]

22 minutes ago, winsor said:

Who?

Who with dalek.

[brenthutch 444]

https://fb.watch/abkHNRSZEv/
 

more woke nonsense 

[winsor 236]

Perhaps there is some progress against the evil that is Woke:

https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/why-black-moderates-awoke-the-woke

[lippy 918]

13 minutes ago, winsor said:

Perhaps there is some progress against the evil that is Woke:

https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/why-black-moderates-awoke-the-woke

Pace yourself, it's a new year

[winsor 236]

As referenced in another thread, this article gets to the heart of the matter:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/feeling-our-way/202108/the-psychology-wokeism

Though adherence to Woke ideology is, as usual, for the best of reasons, it is truly the Road to Hell of which good intentions are made.

 

BSBD,

Winsor

[olofscience 489]

I think this thread should be renamed to "old man yells at cloud".

[winsor 236]

An endless wellspring of sources to discredit anything Woke there is:

https://www.city-journal.org/black-lives-matter-reuters-and-the-price-of-dissent?wallit_nosession=1

[gowlerk 2,241]

9 minutes ago, winsor said:

An endless wellspring of sources to discredit anything Woke there is:

https://www.city-journal.org/black-lives-matter-reuters-and-the-price-of-dissent?wallit_nosession=1

He got fired, supposedly for a political/social disagreement. I would bet that there is a completely different narrative from the point of view of the company who fired hm. I that is really what happened at all. I must admit that I did not read the whole very lengthy story of how he was wronged. But apparently you and he are both fully woke to what discrimination feels like to experience. I sure hope that no one at Reuters HR ever kneels on his neck until he expires.

 

[winsor 236]

2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

He got fired, supposedly for a political/social disagreement. I would bet that there is a completely different narrative from the point of view of the company who fired hm. I that is really what happened at all. I must admit that I did not read the whole very lengthy story of how he was wronged. But apparently you and he are both fully woke to what discrimination feels like to experience. I sure hope that no one at Reuters HR ever kneels on his neck until he expires.

 

Agreed.  That would be a bad thing.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

3 hours ago, winsor said:

An endless wellspring of sources to discredit anything Woke there is:

https://www.city-journal.org/black-lives-matter-reuters-and-the-price-of-dissent?wallit_nosession=1

The free market doesn't exist for Reuters? Interesting how a Manhattan Institute publication is upset a company is exercising their free market rights and principles.

More and more I am starting to believe that the only "right" right-wing Americans are interested in is the "right" not to have to face any consequences.

[billvon 3,058]

32 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

More and more I am starting to believe that the only "right" right-wing Americans are interested in is the "right" not to have to face any consequences.

Of course.

Cops ask a black man for ID before letting him into a county building: "Well, we all have to do things we don't like.  It's called being a responsible member of society and obeying the law."

Worker asks a white man for proof of vaccination before letting him into an airport: "That's just like HITLER!"

[winsor 236]

I just kind of like this

“Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners.”

- George Carlin

Cancel culture - political correctness amped up on steroids, the self-righteousness of a narcissistic age, and a mass-marketed pseudo-morality that is little more than fascism disguised as tolerance - has shifted us into an Age of Intolerance, policed by techno-censors, social media bullies, and government watchdogs.

Edited January 13, 2022 by winsor

[Stumpy 284]

1 hour ago, winsor said:

I just kind of like this

Of course you do. It fits your sadly misguided and misinformed agenda.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

1 hour ago, Stumpy said:

Of course you do. It fits your sadly misguided and misinformed agenda.

Funny how the 'conservatives' scream 'cancel culture!!!' when people want to remove statues of traitorous losers because it 'ignores our history', yet refuse to allow teaching that actually examines that same 'history'.

[winsor 236]

36 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Funny how the 'conservatives' scream 'cancel culture!!!' when people want to remove statues of traitorous losers because it 'ignores our history', yet refuse to allow teaching that actually examines that same 'history'.

I suppose that's one way of looking at it.

I like the Onion's treatment of "Misremember the Alamo!," which pretty much nails the garbled treatment of the subject so typical in popular 'culture.'  Ron Howard's film addressed the subject in a manner more consistent with the documented realities than did the fanciful film starring John Wayne et al.  Texas seceded from Mexico for slavery, rather than 'freedom,' and the decisions related to defending the Alamo were more ill-considered than heroic.

Similarly, any account of "Custer's Last Stand" that bemoans the lack of survivors to tell the tale rather overlooks the fact that there were indeed thousands of survivors, rather a few of whom provided eyewitness accounts of the fracas.

"Examining" History through a lens focused solely on one issue is bad, regardless of which issue is under consideration.  A legitimate treatment of History is generally dispassionate, and takes a skeptical view of popular accounts.

When an account indicates a particular bias, I'm with Dr. Peter Venckman (" I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing"}, and I prefer to focus on the data.  Paymaster's records are preferable to the accounts given to the King by his minstrel.

I'm not supporting whoever or whatever you deem to be 'conservative' so much as to point out that anything Woke is guaranteed to take any point that may have merit and ensure that it is rendered chock full of shit.

 

BSBD,

Winsor

 

[wmw999 2,514]

26 minutes ago, winsor said:

When an account indicates a particular bias, I'm with Dr. Peter Venckman (" I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing"}, and I prefer to focus on the data.  Paymaster's records are preferable to the accounts given to the King by his minstrel.

The data that was recorded was often recorded by the story that’s desired. Sometimes it takes a deliberate effort to look at history through a different lens. Then you debate whether that lens adds or not. 
Wendy P. 

[SkyDekker 1,465]

1 hour ago, winsor said:

When an account indicates a particular bias, I'm with Dr. Peter Venckman (" I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing"}, and I prefer to focus on the data.  Paymaster's records are preferable to the accounts given to the King by his minstrel.

You keep saying this, but your posting history here suggest this is absolutely false. Whenever data doesn't support your bias, you start posting biased opinion pieces with some misrepresented data. When challenged, you say you just posted it cause you thought it was an interesting read.

 

[gowlerk 2,241]

30 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

You keep saying this, but your posting history here suggest this is absolutely false. Whenever data doesn't support your bias, you start posting biased opinion pieces with some misrepresented data. When challenged, you say you just posted it cause you thought it was an interesting read.

 

You noticed that huh?

[winsor 236]

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

You noticed that huh?

Yeah, I did too.

[winsor 236]

My main objection to Woke ideology is its intolerant to the point of totalitarian nature, but its fundamentals are seriously FUBAR coming and going:

https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/the-trans-movement-is-not-about-rights-67e

A more pathological disease of denial than Woke does not readily come to mind.

[BIGUN 1,393]

On 1/15/2022 at 3:59 AM, winsor said:

A more pathological disease of denial than Woke does not readily come to mind.

I didn't think the irony scale could peg out that far, but . . .

Andrew Sullivan 

[gowlerk 2,241]

20 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

I didn't think the irony scale could peg out that far, but . . .

Andrew Sullivan 

Yes, the culture warriors who insist that the European Heritage is what defines the USA and can "Never Be Forgotten" also say that the history of everyone else is just ancient and irrelevant and to "Just Get Over It".