richravizza 28 #2051 June 29, 2024 On 5/8/2024 at 4:11 AM, winsor said: I'm pretty sure it was Lenin who referred to knee jerk adherents of ideology as "useful idiots.". He may have been evil but he wasn't stupid. Happy belated Fathers Day. I hope this finds you and yours well. You mentioned evil. Considering your distaste for the supernatural,LOL. I was wondering if you have pondered on Marx's beliefs.The deeper I go, the more the evil. "My Dear Devil." Seems like a running theme among collectivist.The irony and hypocrisy of BLM being devoted Marxist,hilarious. Das Kapital s.b. renamed "The dead beat, Dad."Of course we should avoid presentism in our perspective of him,but the irony of his writings and play, suspicious.Please take the source, with a grain of salt. https://www.wayoflife.org/reports/karl-marxs-violent-blasphemous-delusions.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #2052 June 30, 2024 On 6/28/2024 at 10:59 AM, billvon said: The movie Inside Out 2 just crossed 1 billion in sales, the first movie of 2024 to do so. It portrays Riley, a girl born in Minnesota who moves to San Francisco and tries to make it in her new school and new hockey team. Her mind is portrayed by characters, each of which is responsible for an emotion - anger, joy, sadness etc. Following the theme from the first movie, all the adults in the movie have emotion-characters who match their gender. Riley has both male and female emotions driving her behavior, and when she gets a new load for this movie, they also contain male emotions. Go woke or go broke! You peaked some interest,definitely not what I was expecting.A cute fictitious animated childs film with quite a bit more... than described above.I don't think most parents see the movie as offensive, other than the way you portray it, as woke. Inside Out 2 invites us back into the mind of Riley, now a 13-year-old ice-hockey enthusiast on the cusp of high school — and puberty. Literally overnight, her brain goes through a large-scale demolition and construction that sees Riley wrestling with four new emotions: anxiety, envy, ennui and embarrassment. I was wondering if you ran into this one; Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV is a 2024 American five-part documentary television series that details some of the behind-the-scenes world at children's television programs from the 1990s to the 2000s, with a special focus on Dan Schneider's tenure as a producer and showrunner at Nickelodeon. Correction; Go woke go broke NicK. Perhaps we can change Direction away from kids, sex abuse gender race and sexual identity.I think most can agree, it's suffocating. I had a conversation with Slim King on Disney's transgressions,seem he has been unpersoned.Stange all existants of him has been Deleted. Woke being arbitrary at best. I suppose we should thank Slim for tearing out his tongue,or Slim could have self terminate so as we can be inclusive and diverse. Funny, so here have a scarlet letter of "abusive" in our behavior,but not you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,049 #2053 June 30, 2024 20 minutes ago, richravizza said: Woke being arbitrary at best. Fortunately words mean things, and "woke" means "alert to injustice in society." If you think that there's anti-semitism around these days? Or you think your friends are discriminated against? Or you think veterans get treated poorly? Congratulations, you're woke. Quote I suppose we should thank Slim for tearing out his tongue,or Slim could have self terminate so as we can be inclusive and diverse. Funny, so here have a scarlet letter of "abusive" in our behavior,but not you. Couldn't parse that, sorry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 835 #2054 June 30, 2024 37 minutes ago, billvon said: Fortunately words mean things, and "woke" means "alert to injustice in society." If you think that there's anti-semitism around these days? Or you think your friends are discriminated against? Or you think veterans get treated poorly? Congratulations, you're woke. Couldn't parse that, sorry. Just like "piqued", words do mean things! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #2055 July 1, 2024 19 minutes ago, billvon said: Fortunately words mean things, and "woke" means "alert to injustice in society." Look up Arbitrary,first. The meanings just might help with my perspective. Your quote while being consistent is nothing more than a "slogan". Look up slogan too. Congrads, you're being..... what was the word oh ya "Consistent" Woke is nothing more than a virtue signal that most people despise.The new religion,holier than thou. Bind to the injustice they espouse. Since your on the Left and have the power and control I was making a joke. 1 hour ago, billvon said: Slim could have self terminate so as we can be inclusive and diverse. See the parody? 1 hour ago, richravizza said: I had a conversation with Slim King on Disney's transgressions,seem he has been unpersoned.Stange all existants of him has been Deleted. So What happened to Slim? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,049 #2056 July 1, 2024 1 minute ago, richravizza said: Look up Arbitrary,first. The meanings just might help with my perspective. Your quote while being consistent is nothing more than a "slogan". No, the word you are looking for is "definition" which is the description of what a word means. A slogan is a short, memorable phrase used in advertising. Quote Woke is nothing more than a virtue signal that most people despise.The new religion,holier than thou. Bind to the injustice they espouse. Again, there is a definition, and that's not it. You get to have your own opinions, but not your own words. Quote So What happened to Slim? He was warned - then banned - for longer and longer periods of time for personal attacks and spamming. The 15th was the last one, and now it's permanent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #2057 July 1, 2024 1 minute ago, billvon said: No, the word you are looking for is "definition" which is the description of what a word means. A slogan is a short, memorable phrase used in advertising. Again, there is a definition, and that's not it. You get to have your own opinions, but not your own words. He was warned - then banned - for longer and longer periods of time for personal attacks and spamming. The 15th was the last one, and now it's permanent. Congrad, another example of being woke, and Clueless,But I forgot your the ordained,Condemned is he. Bravo sir. 15 minutes ago, billvon said: No, the word you are looking for is "definition" which is the description of what a word means. A slogan is a short, memorable phrase used in advertising. You were Quoting me. Arbitrary at best. As is your assumed principle when it comes the 1A. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #2058 July 1, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, normiss said: If you think that there's anti-semitism around these days? Or you think your friends are discriminated against? Or you think veterans get treated poorly? Congratulations, you're woke. You were really "aware" of Charlottesville,but blind to the shit show since 10/7. Newsome's game, now it's The Veterans [sic.] The fast food workers will need our help, except those who bake their own bread,they can go pound sand.LOL You are woke,have a beer and review Richard Dawkins.I'm sure he'd love your opinion, you can correct him when you leave a message in his comment section. Just wondering if you notice the "Unperson" in my description of .... funny thing, I, I can't ... who, what were we talking about a person whose name or existence is denied or ignored, especially because of a political misdemeanor. : an individual who usually for political or ideological reasons is removed completely from recognition or consideration. Edited July 1, 2024 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,049 #2059 July 1, 2024 2 hours ago, richravizza said: You were really "aware" of Charlottesville,but blind to the shit show since 10/7. Newsome's game, now it's The Veterans [sic.] The fast food workers will need our help, except those who bake their own bread,they can go pound sand.LOL You are woke,have a beer and review Richard Dawkins.I'm sure he'd love your opinion, you can correct him when you leave a message in his comment section. Just wondering if you notice the "Unperson" in my description of .... funny thing, I, I can't ... who, what were we talking about Again, sorry, can't parse that. I'm sure it was meant as an insult, but it's so disjointed that it comes across more like a Trump speech. I'm not very woke - but I am working on it. It's taken me a while to get what awareness I have. So - congratulations? I guess? - on being unaware. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,790 #2060 July 1, 2024 Just now, billvon said: Again, sorry, can't parse that. I'm sure it was meant as an insult, but it's so disjointed that it comes across more like a Trump speech. I'm not very woke - but I am working on it. It's taken me a while to get what awareness I have. So - congratulations? I guess? - on being unaware. Bill I have no idea what you are trying to say and FYI it's sparse with an S. Also, if you can't stay awake please have an espresso. Now someone needs to be first, so I think you need to resign. Sure, there will be other opinions and polls to help me think but you really have moved beyond your normal losing it to, well, the next level down. Obviously, there are concerns. Wendy is sort of nice in a NASA sort of way (you know, kind of out there) but now is the time to do something even if it's wrong. Not to set the stage but that's where I can help, you step down, aside, or into a busy street as you desire and I'll hold your spot while Wendy finishes her time in the pickle barrel firming up. When the time seems right I'll go back to private life etc. etc. and pass the baton. Sound like a plan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #2061 July 1, 2024 8 hours ago, billvon said: ... I'm sure it was meant as an insult, but it's so disjointed that it comes across more like a Trump speech... Does that count as a PA? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,238 #2062 July 1, 2024 (edited) 13 hours ago, richravizza said: Woke is nothing more than a virtue signal that most people despise. Woke is becoming nothing more than a symbol of the intolerance that I despise. Edited July 1, 2024 by gowlerk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,507 #2063 July 1, 2024 6 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Woke is becoming nothing more than a symbol of the intolerance that I despise. It's the freedom to be intolerant, because you know you're in a dominant position. I.e. privilege Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #2064 July 1, 2024 38 minutes ago, wmw999 said: It's the freedom to be intolerant, because you know you're in a dominant position. I.e. privilege Wendy P. There are so many things wrong with this stance that it's hard know where to begin. The logic is as impressive as "we had to destroy the village to save the village." If something is unacceptable it's unacceptable, as is defending the unacceptable. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,507 #2065 July 1, 2024 Have you ever been a woman in a workplace where the management is all male, and handsy? Have you ever heard "the law says I have to interview them, but it sure don't say I have to hire them." Have you ever heard "you can come in, gorgeous, but your husband can't." Have you ever heard, yet again, "you must be on the rag." Or maybe "you can't be so blunt," when you're not as blunt as some of the men in the group. Being on the delivering side of all those is privilege, because no one else in management (or the power structure) can be told any of those things, because of who they are. Wendy P. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,049 #2066 July 1, 2024 1 hour ago, wmw999 said: Have you ever been a woman in a workplace where the management is all male, and handsy? You know, you'd look a lot better if you smiled more. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #2067 July 1, 2024 On 6/29/2024 at 10:43 AM, richravizza said: Happy belated Fathers Day. I hope this finds you and yours well. You mentioned evil. Considering your distaste for the supernatural,LOL. I was wondering if you have pondered on Marx's beliefs.The deeper I go, the more the evil. "My Dear Devil." Seems like a running theme among collectivist.The irony and hypocrisy of BLM being devoted Marxist,hilarious. Das Kapital s.b. renamed "The dead beat, Dad."Of course we should avoid presentism in our perspective of him,but the irony of his writings and play, suspicious.Please take the source, with a grain of salt. https://www.wayoflife.org/reports/karl-marxs-violent-blasphemous-delusions.php Thanks for showing us the connection between Marxism and "woke." Woke people are trying to destabilize and destroy the old patriarchy/capitalist/democratic/ free speech/ etc. society without bothering to explain to us the virtues of their idyllic new society. There is a fine line between political politeness and dogmatism. I do not understand the new dogmatism. I am from a generation of old soldiers who had it POUNDED into them that Russian Marxists were evil and nasty. In recent years I have not seen anything to dispel that idea. I challenge "woke" people to explain to me the advantages of their new society. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 835 #2068 July 1, 2024 9 minutes ago, riggerrob said: Thanks for showing us the connection between Marxism and "woke." Woke people are trying to destabilize and destroy the old patriarchy/capitalist/democratic/ free speech/ etc. society without bothering to explain to us the virtues of their idyllic new society. There is a fine line between political politeness and dogmatism. I do not understand the new dogmatism. I am from a generation of old soldiers who had it POUNDED into them that Russian Marxists were evil and nasty. In recent years I have not seen anything to dispel that idea. I challenge "woke" people to explain to me the advantages of their new society. Complete horse hockey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,049 #2069 July 1, 2024 22 minutes ago, riggerrob said: Woke people are trying to destabilize and destroy the old patriarchy/capitalist/democratic/ free speech/ etc. society without bothering to explain to us the virtues of their idyllic new society. I like it! Maybe they're aliens, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #2070 July 1, 2024 2 hours ago, normiss said: Complete horse hockey. Horses playing hockey? That sounds like a lot of horse pucky. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #2071 July 2, 2024 On 7/1/2024 at 11:11 AM, billvon said: I like it! Maybe they're aliens, too. When did Jordan or Richie D mentioned Aliens? You lost me. I was merely pointing out that woke has become a religion. I can look for Winsors references to "woke ideology as a religion "but it would be futile. As would my references to Orwell or MLK for that matter. As for the consequences of woke, well that would take curiosity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 835 #2072 July 2, 2024 I just can't do the new "Youtube is news" bullshit. Showing the conspiracy theorist's conspiracies just hardens the stance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,049 #2073 July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, richravizza said: When did Jordan or Richie D mentioned Aliens? You lost me. I know. But that's OK - I write my posts for most, not all, people to understand them. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #2074 July 2, 2024 On 7/1/2024 at 10:48 AM, riggerrob said: I am from a generation of old soldiers who had it POUNDED into them that Russian Marxists were evil and nasty. In recent years I have not seen anything to dispel that idea. I challenge "woke" people to explain to me the advantages of their new society. I thought it a noble enterprise too, a binay of my young life; Freedom or Totalitarianism,.... Freedom or Death. Thanks for the input.I think you could have omitted "Russian" even in LA, today, the Dogma prevails.Besides Marxist come in may flavors, have you seen "The Killing Fields"? it's a true story of a new society alright, from someone who lived thru it. Thanks for your input, I was trying to highlight Marx's the man, what he wrote, and Of Course my favorite, Hypocrisy. He and his professor while being devout Atheist, were believers.Strange thing. LOL Here's a clip, Warning; episode 455 is like, 2hrs long. lol. "I challenge "woke" people to explain to me the advantages of their new society." I Would suppose the orphans of a society, be their gauge.Orphans of Our State, the #1 priority. Not easy, and right when I thought we were putting in a dent in it. I am sadly mistaken. Rob Henderson's "lived experience comes to mind,one of the success stories. from left to right from dark to light, this one to balance our night. The movie “Sound of Hope: The Story of Possum Trot” is an Angel Studios and Peach Tree production about an East Texas community where 22 families from one church adopted 77 children Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #2075 July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, normiss said: I just can't do the new "Youtube is news" bullshit. Showing the conspiracy theorist's conspiracies just hardens the stance. If you were to bother with clicking and getting up to speed you'd Know that it's a lawsuit.But since your ears are so full of tolerance,you won't think it applies to whity. LOL this little kid is a monster unleashed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites