Woke is a Joke

[richravizza 28]

On 10/2/2024 at 8:17 PM, gowlerk said:

Ended too soon as far as I'm concerned. The story of residential schools is one that I am intimately familiar with. More deeply than just my collection of orange shirts. Attempted cultural genocide by the theft of children was bound to fail. The anger against the evil religious organizations who abused and used innocents will not end as long as living people are still dealing with the scars. It is a multi-generational horror story that is still fresh and only beginning to heal.

Is your name Ken?

 I wasn't being completely honest. I took offense to what you said about me, and then The backhanded compliment, I thought  too much. Unfortunately I reacted rather than respond to your words with the obtuse rhetorical rhetoric a juvenile would spew, and simply meant to sting back. Why Your words stung I thought. It couldn't be what was said, as much as who said it. 

I Was Not trying to make light of the issue as I was trying to highlight the warning in taking it to far. 

Edited October 5, 2024 by richravizza

[richravizza 28]

On 10/2/2024 at 11:45 PM, jakee said:

Ah yes, you're playing on a genius level the rest of us can but scratch the surface of. They call it 'the weave'.

 Many moons ago, I asked you to read a novelette "Anthem","It is a sin to write this" ring any bells? If you like animals, Animal Farm is a fun read too.. Love my "Golden One" or Animals, you pick. They're Both a fun read... Like Breakfast at Tiffany's, It will be the one thing we've got. 

"The weave" a hair style, No.?

Check out the WNBA, definity Woke and wear weaves. But seriously Lacking in Consequential Knowledge.LOL

 

 Among the DEI CRT Intelligencia it is said; that to be anti-racist is to exclude all but the white race, because white is the hierarchical power dynamic.Consequences be damn.

I can't find Phd Robin Diangelo or the Phd with a racist 3 yr.old daughter.

Edited October 5, 2024 by richravizza

[richravizza 28]

On 10/3/2024 at 9:34 AM, SkyDekker said:

Not the people in Appalachia. They all feel entitled to be saved by the government and people like you tend to be screaming the government isn't doing enough, isn't spending enough and isn't socialist enough.

 

[billvon 2,991]

28 minutes ago, richravizza said:

 Among the DEI CRT Intelligencia it is said; that to be anti-racist is to exclude all but the white race, because white is the hierarchical power dynamic.Consequences be damn.

"DEI CRT Intelligencia" meaning something that Tucker Carlson made up?  Yes, I can see how that would be notable.

[gowlerk 2,192]

2 hours ago, richravizza said:

Is your name Ken?

Kenneth Scott Gowler is the name I was given.

 

2 hours ago, richravizza said:

I Was Not trying to make light of the issue as I was trying to highlight the warning in taking it to far. 

Both sides of many issues are known to take things very seriously to a point of being overwrought and over emotional.

[gowlerk 2,192]

3 hours ago, richravizza said:

I took offense to what you said about me, and then The backhanded compliment, I thought  too much.

I am guilty of sarcasm often. But I was serious in saying that I appreciated your resort to more standard and easy to understand English.

[richravizza 28]

On 10/3/2024 at 6:18 AM, tkhayes said:

not actually a game, I asked a question, you have yet to come up with any response.

I never said 'woke' does not exist, I asked for a definition of it and I asked why you consider it an ideology, GIVEN THE FACT that you cannot seem to define what it is in the first place.

Why are you upset about something that you can point at but cannot put a definition to?  Or explain how it is an ideology?  posting examples of it helps I guess, but still does not define it

So yeah, I kinda think that you just label anything that you disagree with as 'woke' which is a cheap way of making an argument.  Better to address issues with the specifics of the issue itself instead of general labeling I would think.

Oh it is a game Sir, and I'm having a ball. 

 I'm glad your back,not that you went anywhere, but I got nervous. Between your hatred for you know who, and your Avatar.Just saying, there's an uncanny resemblance to the second assassination suspect.lol 

  To your definition Question...  You touch mine, then I'll touch yours?lol

All joking aside. This is Windsors thread and the pages before I entered is where you should go.I won't debate a moot point.

 You mentioned the Law. I would encourage anyone that has been discriminated to pursue it,that would include SWM.

[richravizza 28]

51 minutes ago, billvon said:

"DEI CRT Intelligencia" meaning something that Tucker Carlson made up?  Yes, I can see how that would be notable.

 Robin and IXK are grifters caught up in the green.  No Tucker just Ph Diddies and their own words.

 

[kallend 2,027]

3 hours ago, richravizza said:

Oh it is a game Sir, and I'm having a ball. 

 

OK, have fun with this one:
 

 

[richravizza 28]

On 10/5/2024 at 1:06 AM, kallend said:

OK, have fun with this one:
 

 

 The same video? Damn Dude why don't you listen closer, better yet get a transscript.

"They let you." The topic is woke. 

Since Obfuscation, re, and  misdirection of the topic a norm here, I find it ironic. Consistency a conservative concept, so congratulations.

The TK Game was Denial and Definition,...like CK or IXK defining racism. LOL

 Bait, reply, and complete.Now can we get back to the intellectual fraud that is woke.

I don't like the word hate.I was reluctant to aim it and this song at any of my detractors for multiple reason, out of respect was one.I want to make it clear I hate no one.

But if we aim the hate at Trump! Hell, I think We can rock it out.

 

 

 In a debate you know face to face,I don't think the topic could squirm away so easy. Charlie Kirk comes to mind dismissing the half truths woke  professors spew.

 

 

[jakee 1,489]

9 minutes ago, richravizza said:

 In a debate you know face to face,I don't think the topic could squirm away so easy. 

You mean, in a face to face debate it might be possible for someone else to have half a clue of whatever the hell you're trying to say?

[tkhayes 348]

1 hour ago, richravizza said:

 The same video? Damn Dude why don't you listen closer, better yet get a transscript.

"They let you." The topic is woke. 

Since Obfuscation, re, and  misdirection of the topic a norm here, I find it ironic. Consistency a conservative concept, so congratulations.

The TK Game was Denial and Definition,...like CK or IXK defining racism. LOL

 Bait, reply, and complete.

So you admit that you cannot offer any definition for this woke thing that you are upset about?

[richravizza 28]

Jakee,

 I take your not a reader, so how about Stories. Are you familiar with the analogy in the Green Grocer.  It's a story about how people didn't realize they were under totalitarian rule, and how each of them, unwittingly were supporting Ideas,affirming each other in a lie.The sign read "workers of the world unite". Vaclav Havel,The Power of the Powerless, if I was mistaken. Now, we can take those principles and lessons learned and apply them relation to the RPM CRT DEI 1619 worldview. 

Besides, We Can All  Fit in an Evergreen Canoe. LOL

 I'm grounded with a covid type virus, so I have time.

You'll have a choice.Take the blue pill and everything is as it seams. Take the red one, be very specific in your question, and 'll take you down a rabbit hole to see how deep it goes. 

[billvon 2,991]

13 minutes ago, richravizza said:

The sign read "workers of the world unite". Vaclav Havel,The Power of the Powerless, if I was mistaken.

I would advise you to take Havel's advice from his essay - "Live Not By Lies."  In other words, live in reality, not in the misinformationsphere that Trump supporters have constructed.

To be more specific, don't live under the lies that:

"They're eating the dogs!  They're eating the cats!"
There's an evil deep state opposing the real heroes of the US
Vaccines are really Bill Gates 5G microtrackers
DEI has no meaning other than "evil"
Woke has no meaning other than "evil"
Climate change is a Chinese hoax
Trump won the 2020 election.

Live not by lies.  Come back to reality.

[richravizza 28]

1 hour ago, tkhayes said:

So you admit that you cannot offer any definition for this woke thing that you are upset about?

Sir, for a second time I am Not pissed, I'm having a Ball...     if you say harris walls, real fast real loud, it sounds like hairy balls lol

 I'm Simply highlighting the disconnect in reality; fact is fiction,past is present, and hypocrisy in search of virtue. 

"Hypocrisy is the homage, vice pays for virtue" 

In your quest to define Trump as Hitler, unwittingly you diminish both the evils of hitler and evils of the Holocaust.You also earned yourself a fan,you and bill.lol

 OK I admit it.  I can't define woke.  gesundheit der zeitgeist

try this for a change

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4912563-why-would-anyone-vote-for-trump/

 

Edited October 6, 2024 by richravizza

[billvon 2,991]

11 minutes ago, richravizza said:

 OK I admit it. LOL  I can't define woke. Now what?

You have two choices.

1) Learn the definition.  A dictionary might be a good resource here.

2) Pick a right wing source that you like, listen to them, and assume "woke" is every bad thing they say about women, liberals, minorities and gays.

"Live Not By Lies."

[richravizza 28]

33 minutes ago, billvon said:

I would advise you to take Havel's advice from his essay - "Live Not By Lies."  In other words, live in reality, not in the misinformationsphere that Trump supporters have constructed.

To be more specific, don't live under the lies that:

"They're eating the dogs!  They're eating the cats!"
There's an evil deep state opposing the real heroes of the US
Vaccines are really Bill Gates 5G microtrackers
DEI has no meaning other than "evil"
Woke has no meaning other than "evil"
Climate change is a Chinese hoax
Trump won the 2020 election.

Live not by lies.  Come back to reality.

Don't you know me by now!

Come on bill my time is limited this might take you in the direction you want to go

My boyz say'n sum'n bout it

 

[tkhayes 348]

2 hours ago, richravizza said:

Sir, for a second time I am Not pissed, I'm having a Ball...     if you say harris walls, real fast real loud, it sounds like hairy balls lol

 I'm Simply highlighting the disconnect in reality; fact is fiction,past is present, and hypocrisy in search of virtue. 

"Hypocrisy is the homage, vice pays for virtue" 

In your quest to define Trump as Hitler, unwittingly you diminish both the evils of hitler and evils of the Holocaust.You also earned yourself a fan,you and bill.lol

 OK I admit it.  I can't define woke.  gesundheit der zeitgeist

try this for a change

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4912563-why-would-anyone-vote-for-trump/

 

SO ONCE AGAIN.... you cannot define what woke is?  This thing that you are pissed about, but keep deflecting to something about games?

At least you admit it.  Is it a fair question to wonder why you are upset about something that does not have a definition?  Or you cannot explain?  But only rant about games and vague things in society that irritate you?  Thus you just collectively call 'woke'?

Edited October 7, 2024 by tkhayes

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

5 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

SO ONCE AGAIN.... you cannot define what woke is?  This thing that you are pissed about, but keep deflecting to something about games?

At least you admit it.  Is it a fair question to wonder why you are upset about something that does not have a definition?  Or you cannot explain?  But only rant about games and vague things in society that irritate you?  Thus you just collectively call 'woke'?

Of course he can't.

In part because the actual definition includes 'aware of injustices'. And anyone who is against being aware of injustices towards other people is obviously not a very good person.

Kinda funny that the only people I see using 'woke' these days are the ones using it as a pejorative. An insult.

For them, it's sort of like 'socialism' or 'communism'.

They don't seem to know what those words actually mean.

They have altered the definition to 'whatever it is that I don't like'.

Fun fact: Heather Cox Richardson has repeatedly pointed out that the first uses of "socialism" as a pejorative was by rich Southerners who didn't like the idea of African Americans being able to vote. "Those people" didn't pay much in taxes, yet their vote would elect politicians who would decide how to spend tax monies.
So the rich wouldn't be able to direct spending for stuff THEY wanted, usually for their own benefit, and to the detriment of the poor.

[winsor 236]

1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Of course he can't.

In part because the actual definition includes 'aware of injustices'. And anyone who is against being aware of injustices towards other people is obviously not a very good person.

Kinda funny that the only people I see using 'woke' these days are the ones using it as a pejorative. An insult.

For them, it's sort of like 'socialism' or 'communism'.

They don't seem to know what those words actually mean.

They have altered the definition to 'whatever it is that I don't like'.

Fun fact: Heather Cox Richardson has repeatedly pointed out that the first uses of "socialism" as a pejorative was by rich Southerners who didn't like the idea of African Americans being able to vote. "Those people" didn't pay much in taxes, yet their vote would elect politicians who would decide how to spend tax monies.
So the rich wouldn't be able to direct spending for stuff THEY wanted, usually for their own benefit, and to the detriment of the poor.

Woke is covered with a defensive slant on the Wikipedia page.

The real failing of Woke is it's fundamental double standard, where behavior that is despicable becomes okay if one can claim victimhood.

Racism is evil, but for victims everything is all about race. Okay, I think I get it.

[billvon 2,991]

4 hours ago, richravizza said:

Don't you know me by now!

Oh I do indeed,  You enjoy fatties and often post while enjoying them.  You are firmly in the grip of right wing misinformation sources, and regularly repeat what they tell you to repeat.  And when pressed you post music videos rather than explaining what you are talking about.  Which, I suspect, is because you can't.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 hour ago, winsor said:

where behavior that is despicable becomes okay if one can claim victimhood.

That's a stretch, I think, but I can sort of see your point.

[jakee 1,489]

8 hours ago, richravizza said:

Jakee,

 I take your not a reader,

You know, I have to admire your audacity.

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Are you familiar with the analogy in the Green Grocer.  It's a story about how people didn't realize they were under totalitarian rule,

I don't think it is. But anyway, so what?

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Take the red one, be very specific in your question, and 'll take you down a rabbit hole to see how deep it goes. 

You won't, because you're incapable of writing a coherent English language sentence from start to finish. No one knows what the fuck you're saying, pretty much ever. We get the vague sense of Trump good, liberals bad but that's about as far as it goes. That you think of yourself as some kind of prophet who could open everyone's eye to the truth around them if only they'd listen is one of the saddest things I've ever heard.

[kallend 2,027]

8 hours ago, richravizza said:

Sir, for a second time I am Not pissed, I'm having a Ball...    

 

I had given the benefit of the doubt before, but lying for fun to elicit a response is classic troll behavior.

I put obvious trolls on my ignore list.

Bye.

[winsor 236]

4 hours ago, kallend said:

I had given the benefit of the doubt before, but lying for fun to elicit a response is classic troll behavior.

I put obvious trolls on my ignore list.

Bye.

I limit mine to toxic posters.  That does, of course, result in threads devoid of posts.

Edited October 7, 2024 by winsor